[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
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Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
How long should we wait for any bump ?[/quote]
In the polls?
A good while. Many of these firms won’t be publishing post-debate samples for days, and the samples will still have pre-debate interviews until probably early next week (and by then we’ll already have had the 3rd debate).
[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
Education subsidies create jobs by allowing the cost of education to go down and become more affordable…
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Bullshit.
Education subsidies effectively raise the cost of education. The more the market’s role is diminished the higher the prices will be.
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You guarantee demand for my product, and I can guarantee my price will go up until the next marginal increase in price causes a marginal decrease in demand…
[quote]nickj_777 wrote:
Education subsidies create jobs by allowing the cost of education to go down and become more affordable…
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Bullshit.
Education subsidies effectively raise the cost of education. The more the market’s role is diminished the higher the prices will be.
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Amen.
Also, there is no such thing as government subsidies. The government has no money. It is the money of the public. Low income people, high income people. Why would low income people be interesting in subsidizing another party giving them an economic advantage?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
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Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
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And you’ll do what if Romney wins?
And why?
Mufasa
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Expand my business, hire more people and hold prices down.
And the “why” of the matter should seem obvious. In Mitt Romney we will have a President who will not punish success by raising taxes on small businesses.
Yes but that was not my point at all. My point was investing in human capital has a pretty major effect on economic growth, although I think I’ve read that it’s not even close to the effect of physical capital, especially in poorer countries. My point from the start that investing in education through subsidizing areas where the US could grow (engineering, math, science, physics, etc…) could aid in future economic growth. There has been too much piece-mealing of my arguments. They have to be looked at holistically. The US continues to champion reducing the barriers to immigrants from BRIC nations (Brazil, India, China) because they are perceived to have the skills the US markets need. There is all this talk about energy security what about education security and home grown talent and not importing people to fill holes in the employment market.
The benefits of education subsidies are called positive externalities. The benefits to education are greater than the one person being educated feels. I become a computer scientist and invent google is the classic example. I am just saying investing in education is not meritless.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
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Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
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And you’ll do what if Romney wins?
And why?
Mufasa
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Expand my business, hire more people and hold prices down.
And the “why” of the matter should seem obvious. In Mitt Romney we will have a President who will not punish success by raising taxes on small businesses.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
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Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
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And you’ll do what if Romney wins?
And why?
Mufasa
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Expand my business, hire more people and hold prices down.
And the “why” of the matter should seem obvious. In Mitt Romney we will have a President who will not punish success by raising taxes on small businesses.
Can I be any clearer than that?[/quote]
Here you go… lol
I love the “rich people can afford it” line of bullshit. Because people eat it up. They don’t make 250k so who gives a shit right?
Yeah, well the person signing your paycheck does make that much, lol. So guess what, your raise over the next 4-16 years… Just went to the IRS.
“But according to Whitaker, who apparently reads his talking points from Media Matters each morning over a breakfast of non-fat organic yogurt and Kool-Aid,”
I realized this morning, and I don’t think anyone has talked about it, that if President Obama did in fact mean to refer to Libya as an act of terror in the Rose Garden, wouldn’t that be even worse for him politically?
The President of the United States went campaigning the day after a terrorist attack on U.S. soilthat resulted in the death of America citizens.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
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Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
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And you’ll do what if Romney wins?
And why?
Mufasa
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Expand my business, hire more people and hold prices down.
And the “why” of the matter should seem obvious. In Mitt Romney we will have a President who will not punish success by raising taxes on small businesses.
Can I be any clearer than that?[/quote]
No…
You are actually VERY clear, Zeb.
Mufasa[/quote]
Now I have a question for you.
Why would any small business owner, such as myself do anything other than cut wages, raise prices and hunker down and not expand with Obama as President?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I own a small business and all I’ve seen over the past four years are rising taxes, more regulation and constant threats by the President of the United States that I am not paying my fair share. And on top of that he spit in my face when he said that “you didn’t build that…someone else did it for you.”
[/quote]
Hope you don’t make more than 250k… With Obama care, and the way ohio looks, all told, according to Kiplinger, you’re looking at a roughtly 10-12% increase in Federal taxes.
Enjoy that.
I’m fucked as well, but not as much as you, lol.[/quote]
My response to a second Obama term should we all be so unlucky to experience will be the same reaction I had to his first term. Stop hiring and stay out of the stock market. In addition to this I’ve already informed my employees that if Obama should win and consequently raise my taxes to punish me because I am a successful small business owner I will lower their wages and raise prices to make up for 2/3rds of the tax hike. I will shoulder the other 1/3rd. No expansion, no hiring, lower wages and higher prices. If that’s the kind of economy that Obama wants I am more than happy to give it to him!
And I assure you there are many, many others just like me who will respond in a similar fashion.
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And you’ll do what if Romney wins?
And why?
Mufasa
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Expand my business, hire more people and hold prices down.
And the “why” of the matter should seem obvious. In Mitt Romney we will have a President who will not punish success by raising taxes on small businesses.
Can I be any clearer than that?[/quote]
Here you go… lol
I love the “rich people can afford it” line of bullshit. Because people eat it up. They don’t make 250k so who gives a shit right?
Yeah, well the person signing your paycheck does make that much, lol. So guess what, your raise over the next 4-16 years… Just went to the IRS.
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And that’s why we don’t need a President who pits one class of people against another. Each segment of society needs to think that they have a President who is looking out for their interests. Because that is part of what good leadership is all about. Someone who is not doing well needs to be assured that an opportunity will be provided for him, not a hand out.
When Mufasa wonder’s why people like me are so anxious to remove Obama from the White House he need only look at how he talks to and about people like me.
Many of the Obama voters are voting for Obama because they want the government to either give them something, or keep giving them something. I am supporting Mitt Romney because I want less from government. And I want to be able to keep more of my hard earned money.
Please take less from me federal government. And while you’re at it please reduce your size and stop being wasteful with the money that I do give you.
I think that summarizes what many of those who are “anti-Obama” want in their President.