So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it’s not really of all that much value.
This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands…
Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don’t let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.
Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. “Open and generous” is often a masquerade for “needy.”[/quote]
looks like the dude holding the fish missed a fine opportunity[/quote]
English (or least Japanese), please?
Her ex?[/quote]
I’m talking about the guy whose avatar is a picture of a guy holding a fish. You were the one that posted the link to her pics when he made a post about marrying Beth. Remember? I don’t remember which thread it was.
So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it’s not really of all that much value.
This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands…
Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don’t let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.
Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. “Open and generous” is often a masquerade for “needy.”[/quote]
looks like the dude holding the fish missed a fine opportunity[/quote]
English (or least Japanese), please?
Her ex?[/quote]
I’m talking about the guy whose avatar is a picture of a guy holding a fish. You were the one that posted the link to her pics when he made a post about marrying Beth. Remember? I don’t remember which thread it was.[/quote]
Oh yeah!
Good memory, grasshopper.[/quote]
Can always count on you for a speedy reply
So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it’s not really of all that much value.
This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands…
Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don’t let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.
Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. “Open and generous” is often a masquerade for “needy.”[/quote]
looks like the dude holding the fish missed a fine opportunity[/quote]
English (or least Japanese), please?
Her ex?[/quote]
I’m talking about the guy whose avatar is a picture of a guy holding a fish. You were the one that posted the link to her pics when he made a post about marrying Beth. Remember? I don’t remember which thread it was.[/quote]
Oh yeah!
Good memory, grasshopper.[/quote]
Can always count on you for a speedy reply[/quote]
StevenF is the fellow with the fish, for reference.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Find a new dude.
Honestly all I would really want is someone who cares about me and is loyal, aka won’t renege their “love” in the blink of an eye. Anything beyond that is just icing imo.
Okay beta rant over lol.[/quote]
The difficulty is differentiating that person from a sea of potential mates.
So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it’s not really of all that much value.
This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands…
Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don’t let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.
Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. “Open and generous” is often a masquerade for “needy.”[/quote]
looks like the dude holding the fish missed a fine opportunity[/quote]
English (or least Japanese), please?
Her ex?[/quote]
I’m talking about the guy whose avatar is a picture of a guy holding a fish. You were the one that posted the link to her pics when he made a post about marrying Beth. Remember? I don’t remember which thread it was.[/quote]
Oh yeah!
Good memory, grasshopper.[/quote]
Can always count on you for a speedy reply[/quote]
I’m a very old school kind of guy.
I always keep my promises, too! ;-)[/quote]
cool beans
What is it that men really want in a long term partner/wife?
Apparently not a gf who wants to f*ck and blow them every day, buys them an M1A just because, cooks awsome food, rototills and plants the garden, and helps them cut down trees. Yes, and not someone who picks up a sport and learns it just to share their passion. Not a woman who gives her all, loyally, without going through his phone or keeping track of him, who always gives him his space and freedom.
So wtf makes a woman worthy of an “I love you”? [/quote]
Wow, tried to find a woman exactly like this for years and like another poster stated didn’t exist anywhere I lived or moved to or served {military}! I did find these types exist in other countries. American woman extremely hard to find with this profile.
So what does a woman do when she provides that emotional, physical and financial generosity and it’s dismissed by the dude? [/quote]
Beth, sadly, the world is full of people who believe that if something is offered freely and generously, it’s not really of all that much value.
This is more often true amoung younger people than us old folks who have learned to see diamonds in some open and outstreched hands…
Basically, what the others have said: Move on, and keep looking. Don’t let the blind guys cause you to change, because you want to be as you are now when you run into one who can see someday.
Having said all that, you also need to be vigilant against being a co-dependent, clingy type. “Open and generous” is often a masquerade for “needy.”
[/quote]
Yup I can understand the fine line between clingy and codependent. I am definitely not clingy, I like my space and time alone. One of his complaints was lack of time together so maybe I didn’t give enough of that. I’m more focused on quality. If I was getting what I needed I think time wouldn’t be a problem to give. Maybe my generosity was some kind of codependent behavior, I don’t know. Generosity is a trait that I was raised with so I’m not sure if I’m qualified to differentiate.
I dated a girl once and she was very clingy and codependent. It opened my eyes to what you gentlemen go through so I’ve been very conscious of my behavior ever since. That being said, it was the best sex I’ve ever had. I can see why so many fall prey to the wiles of the Vag.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
The partner, someone who compliments you on all aspects of life, financial, sexual, emotionally and mentally. Someone that has faults that you recognize and respect, but they also see, respect and recognize yours.
Been married almost 15 years, my wife is my best friend and partner in life. Everything I do is in our present and future, she is the same. We are yin and yang. Her successes are my successes and vice versa, her pains and hurts are my pains and hurts.
What is it that men really want in a long term partner/wife?
Apparently not a gf who wants to f*ck and blow them every day, buys them an M1A just because, cooks awsome food, rototills and plants the garden, and helps them cut down trees. Yes, and not someone who picks up a sport and learns it just to share their passion. Not a woman who gives her all, loyally, without going through his phone or keeping track of him, who always gives him his space and freedom.
So wtf makes a woman worthy of an “I love you”? [/quote]
Daily f**k and bj…this is something that surprisingly (sadly) a lot of guys don’t appreciate…I have several friends that have sex with their wives like once a month…they complain it’s ‘boring’…I’m like…wtf!!! It takes two to make it boring.
Awesome food…again…a lot of dopey guys don’t appreciate food. Sex and food and booze and a partner who enjoys all three as much as I do was pretty much how She Say and I decided to get married.
Rototils and plants the garden…I don’t want a woman that is a harder worker than me…so…I wouldn’t be your guy on this one.
Etc…
I don’t know…you sound like a great gal if this is really you…thing is…some guys might not want you even though you are great…from what i can glean from this thread you have a guy that doesn’t want you…I’d find a new guy.
My dopey brother had a gf for 10 years…she was smokin’ hot…a Ravens cheerleader…carried a gun in her job as a some sort of security person…was friendly…easy to talk to…decent cook and had a suitcase full of thongs and other nice lingerie that I caught a glimpse of one time when we were all at the beach…problem was, my brother was NEVER going to marry her…treated her like shit…pretty much called her stupid in front of the family, etc…she stuck around for whatever reason then finally left…found a new guy that married her like a month later and last I heard they were happy after 10 years and at least 1 kid.
I’ve been married to She Say for almost 20 years. I proposed after dating for about 4 months…I knew there was no way I’d be happy without her in my life. Prior to dating She Say I dated some pretty amazing women…smart, sexy, fun to be around, hard workers, etc…but…I knew from day 1 (or so) of dating them they weren’t ‘the one’…no matter how much the effed and sucked me they were never going to be The One…same with cooking, rototilling, etc…
Hope this helps and encourages you to send me some naked pictures.
Can you agree that the dating game as it stands now is way different to what it was back 20 years ago? Apart from the sex and ONS which were always around, can you honestly say people haven’t changed for the worst?
A prime example of this being people not looking past minor flaws or looking into developing something and always relying on “a spark”.
I’ve found city girls to be extremely materialistic/needy/selfish/ignorant/un-trustworthy when compared to some women who were brought up in the sticks. I am not even in places like LA/New York or London for that matter.
Can you agree that the dating game as it stands now is way different to what it was back 20 years ago? Apart from the sex and ONS which were always around, can you honestly say people haven’t changed for the worst?
A prime example of this being people not looking past minor flaws or looking into developing something and always relying on “a spark”.
I’ve found city girls to be extremely materialistic/needy/selfish/ignorant/un-trustworthy when compared to some women who were brought up in the sticks. I am not even in places like LA/New York or London for that matter.[/quote]
What’s ONS?
I’ll answer, but I’m not really an expert as I haven’t dated in 20 years…and I don’t really know anyone that is dating…however…I know I have changed…IF I was dating I think I’d be pretty good at it…I know 20 years ago people were also realying on a ‘spark’ and a lot of girls wouldn’t give me the time of day as I didn’t have it…problem was I wanted the ones that didn’t want me…I know (or at least I think I know) that is She Say went bat shit crazy and left me I’d only be interested in dating women that were interested in dating me…know what I mean?
The funnyt thing is after I’d been married and a father for about 5 years I found the number of women that would flirt with me to be much greater than when I was single…I’m pretty sure it’s because I was able to treat women in a way that wasn’t making them think I wanted them…not sure where this tangent is going, but the thing that I have seen that has changed in the past 20 years is the methods you could use to meet women to date…20 years ago you met girls in school and that was about it…if you lost touch with one you had a crush on and vice versa good luck getting in touch…now with social media and online dating I’m not sure why you wouldn’t have a different date every night…if 9 out of 10 suck and are looking for that ‘spark’ move on with the 1 that worked out…but the funny thing is I know a lot of guys that met someone through a dating site AFTER getting divorced and the first thing they do is move her in/get married/ etc…wtf would you do this? Got me.
Anyway…hope this has helped.
If not, one final point…Sen Jr. and Sen the Third both have recently had girlfriends enter their lives…for the most part this has been great…the downside is I don’t get to take as many baths as pre-gf as the tub is down the hall and no 16-18 year old girl wants to see Mr. Say heading down the hallway for a relaxing soak, book and whiskey in hand…anyway…the girls are great…they go to my son’s high school which is where I assume most mates are still found…anyway…the girls don’t seem to be looking for a ‘spark’…they sit around our house watching tv, playing board games, eating food…maybe my offspring are the lucky ones, but there ain’t nothing new under the sun as far as I can see.