Potential ENHANCED Olympic Games!

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Beyond all the “oh, we are so concerned with the health of these athletes” and other BS within this article, I for one would DEFINITELY tune in to watch this! Just like bodybuilding shows[untested], I want to see the fastest running, highest jumping, insanest clean and jerk, etc in the world and with all the athletes ALL taking PED’s, essentially they will all be on a level playing field[again, like IFBB bodybuilding]. I always tell people that in pro bodybuilding, they all take all kinds of drugs, yet on the Olympia stage, there is usually a VERY marked difference in the man who wins the Sandow and they guy in 15th place AND nobody up there has ANY advantage over the other athletes in terms of substances taken. Obviously socioeconomic differences, access to quality training facilities, chiropractors, etc etc come into play but you catch my drift.

I’m just curious to see what others feel about this (and please don’t get into whether or not this will materialize, or societal ramifications, etc…JUST, if this were to come to fruition…whaddya think?)

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Brilliant!! You mean like along with where they’re from, other background stuff etc they also give a quick rundown on what anabolics/SARMS/GH/EPO etc they are running? ha, if that’s what you meant that would be even better!
In all seriousness, if they really held these games, and some really WILD performances occurred/records were shattered, there would be inevitable media buzz…I mean, how could they NOT talk about someone throwing a shot put like double the longest ever olympic record distance, or something like that? Bigger, better, stronger…it’s the American way and everybody secretly loves to see superhuman feats.

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Yeah, I know, I know…many, many in “tested” competitions already are using something. It always reminds me of the whole Lance Armstrong debacle, when everyone was so aghast that he was taking PED’s…he was like “the entire Tour is on something, it’s just a cat and mouse game trying to catch somebody”. But again, he was taking things, his competitors were taking things, and guess what, as you alluded to @RT_Nomad saying, it still ended up coming down to genetics! Lance’s genetics simply responded best to everything he was taking, and before even factoring that in, things like his VO2 max, hemoglobin levels, RBC count, glycogen storage rate, etc. were off the charts; like in the .01% of all humans. So he started out with a vast genetic advantage and the PED’s just made it all that much more amazing. Sad that he became a sacrificial lamb and was the target of so much hate, because winning, what, 7? Tour de France’s is still goddam impressive! Like Ronnie taking the Sandow 8 straight times…these athletes were genetic specimens to begin with.

Back to the games, I would also actually care about probably EVERY event in these Olympics as opposed to now, where 99% of stuff is yawn-inducing and all I really tune in to see are the short distance, sheer speed track events and naturally, the SHW olympic men’s weightlifting competition. How awesome would it be to see the boxing events with AAS freaks beating the crap outta each other, or how crazy far the hammer throwers or shot putters could throw? I’m ready…anyone else who says they would be appalled by such games or would never watch them…yeah, right, I bet many of them would secretly tune in…but of course publicly, no, of course they couldn’t say they were intrigued by it or wanted to watch. The level of hypocrisy in the world of sports (which was so well documented by the actual documentary: Bigger, Stronger, Faster) is ridiculous.

Let the [juice]Games begin!

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Awesome!

Now lets do the enhanced disabled olympics!

Marfans syndrome boxing tournament!

“Watch as these long, lanky athletes battle through aortic dissection, shoulder dislocations and obstructive lung disease @anon18050987”

In the heavyweight division we have stringbean mclongleggington! Standing at seven feet tall and weighing 225lbs with a reach of 7000 inches. He is matching up against noodle armington!

Both are on a generous dose of testosterone and boldenone and what’s that? Aortic dissection? Bilateral shoulder dislocatons? I’m afraid both contenders couldn’t make the bout…

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Honestly, we’re at a point where our technology is advancing faster than we ever will, evolutionarily speaking.

The only way to keep up is for bio-enhancements like NeuroLink or similar. We will engineer ourselves into slavery via artificial intelligence if we don’t stay competitive with the technology we make.

I say we add extreme muscle/performance enhancements to the list of things as we get into the literal human experimentation required to jump start these advancements. It’s hard to incentivise someone with money, but FAME? People will walk into an unproven surgical intervention procedure for the chance to have some fame. I think this works.

Now lets open up steroid use in Football and MMA. Not being sarcastic, lets see some superhuman freaks do some superhuman shit.

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I get more excited for WSM than the Olympics. It is IMO one of the fairest sporting competitions because the lack of testing. We get to see the world’s strongest, not the world’s strongest natty, or world’s strongest that can pass a drug test.

There is also the aspect of seeing basically giants lift shit. I started watching WSM with my dad on Christmas when I was probably 6 or 7. I was hooked on it. I wanted to be big and strong like those guys. Genetics didn’t allow that, but I figure it is probably one of the reasons I have stuck with with weights.

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Bro, this should maybe be the tagline on the tv channel when they are announcing the Enhanced Games! @Andrewgen_Receptors I like that!

Be awesome to see a running back who looked like a flex Lewis running away from a tackle who looked like Ronnie Coleman or a linebacker who looked like a Nick Walker! Good stuff

As I said in my original post, yes, most will be afraid to take part in these games whereby they are essentially announcing out loud that they use PED’s…BUT there are those who could give a shit who just want the fame and notariety and guess what??? The media will happily do that for them!

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@anon18050987 very true, I agree with your point. BUT, I do foresee us potentially seeing some INSANELY big Olympic weightlifters! Like @mnben87 was referencing above, some of the American, Russian, Eastern European, Middle Eastern weightlifters could end up looking like Bill Kazmier or Brian Shaw…which would be epic!

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I suppose I have grown accustomed to the athlete looking for an advantage and then the regulators looking to instill a rule to re-level the field. It’s been that game for as long as I can recall.

I love track and field. It is my favorite spectator sport. I like all of the events. And yes, what Karsten Warholm did was remarkable. And what Sydney McLaughlin did in the 400 meter hurdles was just as remarkable.

I would prefer that the efforts to keep the playing field level as to PED’s stay in place. I like to compare the feats of today with what was previously done. Example: Knowing that Roger Bannister ran the first 4:00 minute mile in 1954, it was interesting to see Jakob Ingebrigtsen put two sub 4:00 minute miles together to break the 2 mile in 7:54.10. What Ryan Crouser has done owning the world record in the shot put that he keeps breaking is beyond remarkable.

But I have often said, “If you don’t cheat, don’t compete.” Shouldn’t every athlete look for any advantage that he can get away without getting caught. As heard about NASCAR, “If you aren’t cheating, you’re not trying.” I do like that cat and mouse game. I believe it pushes excellence in the event. How bad do you want it?

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Case and point:

Gunter Schlierkamp just casually making preggo ronnie look average.
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It’s gonna be wild when the athletes in these games don’t end up performing a ton better than the regular Olympics, and then everyone realizes the idea of “clean” sports doesn’t exist.

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Are you telling me you don’t want a connective tissue disorder grappling competition where the participants can be on drugs?

Look up contortionists, now imagine grappling matches between them “hahahaha, think you’ve got me in a joint lock? Watch me dislocate THIS!”

followed by a loud pop and audible gasps from the audience!

But alas, a heavy dose of opiates has allowed the participants to stay pain free (I imagine each participant is attached with a fentanyl PCA). You can constantly hear the buttons being pushed during the match

‘beep beep beep’

“FUCK I’m out”

PARTICIPANT B WINS BY ARMBAR, KIMURA, WRISTLOCK, kneebar, ankle lock and heel hook! All submissions have been applied to completion

Participant A is rendered a useless pile of human pudding

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I’d think that sports like weightlifting would be the ones with a large performance delta between tested and untested. There were guys from the 70s that were untested that have totals not far off of Lasha (only like 10 KG). They didn’t even have all the stuff we have today, and I think Lasha probably is doing some stuff haha, just has to test clean. It does seem to me that having to test clean vs untested in weightlifting does make a difference though, since I’d assume the record should be a lot higher than it was in the 70s if everything else was equal. Untested powerlifting has seen a lot greater increases in the numbers over the years (I’d expect similar in weightlifting if testing clean wasn’t a big disadvantage compared to untested).

I guess AAS help the most with size (not that important in most Olympic events), then next with strength, which is important for more Olympic events, but that also comes with size, which is a negative for some events. It wouldn’t make sense that the 100 meter sprinters would be on grams of gear. More so enough gear to be leaner / stronger at the same weight type thing.

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Dude, you’re forgetting a VERY important and key benefit of AAS/PED’s…recovery! Well, not to mention glycogen storage, tendon/ligament strengthening/healing[GH], reduced catabolism… I know with most all of us being used to lifting weights we sometimes forget the other basic functions of AAS, but I feel that the greatly enhanced recovery capabilities of athletes would also be a huge factor in their greatly increased performance.

At the Olympic training facility, what do these guys do? They eat well, sleep and rest as prescribed, but they mainly train repetition after repetition for their events & movements. Day in and day out these guys, take a 100m sprinter, run that 100m countless times day in and day out, working on form, their start, their gait, etc. But all that heavy training takes a huge toll not only on your muscular system but also your nervous system. Taking AAS and other PED’s would really help athletes to be able to bounce back day after day at 100% each morning, vs. a non enhanced athlete who would almost assuredly experience a heavy neuromuscular drain on their body.

How much exactly might this effect their performance come game day? Who knows, but I like to think that it would factor in heavily. In terms of other PED’s, I know for sure that drugs like EPO would really assist swimmers, cyclists, distance runners, decathaletes, wrestlers, etc. And you mention size, but that also might be helpful in quite a few sports/events. Short distance swimmers, cyclists, sprinters, etc. might benefit from bigger muscles filled with fast-twitch muscle fibers. Now, I’m not saying sprinters with legs like a pro bodybuilder, ha, no, that would certainly be a hindrance, but bigger, stronger hams and quads to assist in exploding off the blocks, a swimmer with slightly bigger but much stronger shoulders and lats? Definitely an assist with doing swimming sprinting/short distance events. And as previously I mentioned, shot putters who have much stronger triceps/shoulders/chests would inevitably be able to throw much further. How about a long jumper with markedly stronger/bigger calves/hams/quads? I would have to think these differences would have a huge effect.

In all, I think that we would likely see a very big difference in the performances between the “tested” and untested games. As someone mentioned earlier though, I do agree with you that in the current tested games, there are most certainly athletes who are taking something, or took something in the 4 years in between Olympic games, or who just have brilliant scientists who know how to game the testing. So yeah, I know that’s going on but I think the magnitude of that is probably very, very small overall.

We won’t really ever know until this actually happens and I hope that one day it occurs. Hey, if they were able to get fucking CROSSFIT [crossjuicers] so big and televised, anything is possible. Don’t get me started on those people as we all know they ALL are taking a multitude of things. As someone very familiar with AAS, you need only look at the traps on both the men AND the women, see the insane vascularity, the roundness of their muscles, etc. to know. Not to mention the obvious, the competitors not only are very strong, but they also have incredible endurance as well? In most normal people, you tend to have to train for either/or…strength or endurance. Being so proficient as BOTH is just not doable naturally… Being able to pull a weighted sled 100 yards, and then perform 20 clean and presses with 225lbs+ immediately after…no natural man/woman can do that at the speed which they do. Huh, I digress…sorry to get off on a crossfit tangent. It’s not like I don’t respect them as athletes, which they are incredible ones, but for them all to claim natty status is a joke and an insult to intelligent people.

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I perhaps needed some nuance in my post. In something like the shot put which requires strength and mass to be good at, I think we’d see differences, but to the average spectator, they aren’t going to notice the shot put going an extra 3 yards (which is a lot, and I am not sure PEDs could add 3 yards to the top level competitors throws).

But it wouldn’t be the delta between natty and enhanced. It would be the difference between passing drug tests and enhanced. I am assuming that many top level athletes in events were AAS or other PEDs would help are likely taking them but able to pass the test.

I do think the example of weightlifting would see a significant delta if untested (based on my previous post). I think AAS would help that event the most because it is the event which AAS most directly helps.

The Germans had a significant advantage for awhile with Tbol. They gave it to men and women. The women were quite masculine. It did help with swimming and other events. IDK, if those German women that were getting away with Tbol back in the day would beat the current best swimmers that test clean though? Maybe they would?

For most events, I see PEDs as a way to go up a level (I think Dave Tate has said this). Basically if you need gear to get into college ball, you aren’t making the pros. If you need gear to be a late round pick in the draft, you aren’t going to be a star. So if this event only attracted individuals that didn’t make the cut for the regular Olympics, it might not be that impressive compared to the Olympians that test clean (but are likely using). I don’t think a mid level sprinter on gear would beat Bolt even if he was allowed to use whatever, and Bolt had to compete under normal conditions (testing).

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Not to get too off on a tangent, but I was just wondering, has there ever been a documentary, any articles or exposé’s, etc on Crossfitters or the Crossfit games? I’m just thinking about all that I’ve seen and couldn’t help but wonder if anyone has really exposed the actual reality of this sport[or athletic competition…or whatever these games are classified as]? If so, I’d love to hear about it and if not…well, why the hell not? Not that I’m against those folks also getting to take whatever PED’s they want in order to be the most competitive and subsequently put on the most amazing show for us as spectators. To be able to showcase what humans can really do with top level training, nutrition, active recovery techniques, and of course PED’s would really be impressive to behold.

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I recall an old assumption when the move to leave PED from being “legal” toward natural. It became accepted at that time that steroids accounted for an extra 10% to the total of powerlifting records. I am not saying this is a precise comparison, but just a “rule of thumb.”

Powerlifting is probably the best sport to demonstrate the strength benefits of PED’s. It takes much less technique to preform the three powerlift movements than about any sport endeavor.

If you believe there is any credibility to the 10% strength increase of PED’s, then it is my thought that all sports would have record improvements of something less than 10%.

Ryan Crouser set the shot put record (again) with a toss of 77 feet 3 3/4 inches. IF Ryan took PED’s (that is assuming that he hasn’t found a “work around”) he could potentially increase his record by 7.7 feet, if he could access the entire 10% benefit of PED’s.

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@anon18050987 Thanks so much for posting up these links.

WOW! Looking at the link to the list of banned crossfit people, seems like this GW1516 (not sure what that is, but then again, I never thought SARMS were worth the risk taking hence I never really educated myself on all of them. Yes, I’ve read brief descriptions of some, but I’ve also read horror stories of horrific side effects from idiots taking them in huge quantities trying to mimic true AAS and ending up severely sick or dead. I’ve never wanted to be a human guinea pig like that as with AAS at least we have decades of both lab research and firsthand human research to go off of) is a really popular …SARM?? It’s interesting to read through the list of what everyone was popped for. SOme poor souls had like clomid, which is a damn shame, whereas others had like a whole pharmacy in their systems. I’m inclined to think that the reason for many of them being banned for 4 or more years is perhaps the hope that the competitors will lose interest in competing over that long of a time and never enter another contest again and potentially cheat again? Otherwise, I can’t see the reason for such a lengthy suspension.

Good stuff overall and I also think I’ve seen a documentary or two in passing on one of the streaming services about crossfit games/athletes, I might just have to watch it.

But yeah, as I mentioned earlier, for someone to be able to put their body through all of those tests of strength AND endurance, those guys would HAVE to be taking something as the amount of natural humans who could NATURALLY be dominant at that high of a level would be an infinitesimally small percentage of the population. It harks back to again, why you only see a bodybuilder like a Dorian Yates, or a Ronnie Coleman, every once in a long while out of a potential population of tens of thousands of competitive bodybuilders (it may even be more like 100’s of thousands)…the percentage of genetic specimens who are capable of such extreme strength and endurance and performance is so tiny. Like with everything else, the percentage of humans on earth that have an absurdely high IQ is a fraction of a fraction of a percent. But the ones who do…whoa, genius doesn’t even begin to describe. I think I read about a boy at age 11 the other day who just graduated college with several masters degrees and I think perhaps even his PhD…or he was in a PhD program at least. Yeah…“freaks”.

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Made me think of the old reply in my day: “I didn’t rather be big and dumb, than just plain dumb.”

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You know what else makes you look dumb? Forgetting the ‘2nd’ of your supposed list.