Since there has been a lot of talk about doing “shorties” lately, I decided why not make a, “Post your Favorite Shorty Thread”…
In my opinion the best shorty would pack on as much lean mass, increase strength, minimizes the need for a rigorous PCT, and cost
a fraction of what a typical AAS cycle would cost. Whilst taking a fraction of the time to run successfully.
I’m no Roberts but this is something I would like to run.
Week 1-2: Test Prop 300mg
Week 1-2: Tren Ace 200mg
Week 1-2: Adrol 350mg
Week 1-3: A-dex .25mg E3D
Week 3: Adrol 20mg ED
Taken using the two week on, two week off protocol. The A-dex helping with water retention and bloating. If symptoms do not subside, increase the dose frequency, not the dose itself. Like I said, I’m no Roberts, just what came to mind… What would you run?
[quote]mingledorff7 wrote:
Since there has been a lot of talk about doing “shorties” lately, I decided why not make a, “Post your Favorite Shorty Thread”…
In my opinion the best shorty would pack on as much lean mass, increase strength, minimizes the need for a rigorous PCT, and cost
a fraction of what a typical AAS cycle would cost. Whilst taking a fraction of the time to run successfully.
I’m no Roberts but this is something I would like to run.
Week 1-2: Test Prop 300mg
Week 1-2: Tren Ace 200mg
Week 1-2: Adrol 350mg
Week 1-3: A-dex .25mg E3D
Week 3: Adrol 20mg ED
Taken using the two week on, two week off protocol. The A-dex helping with water retention and bloating. If symptoms do not subside, increase the dose frequency, not the dose itself. Like I said, I’m no Roberts, just what came to mind… What would you run?
[/quote]
Hey great idea for a thread Mingles!
I had loads of fun with the old Anastrol oral runs, and a certain test phenylprop and masteron cycle a while back.
In the future after my surgery is all healed up, I would love to run a similar one to yours, but I would ditch the drol, and replace it with masteron. Personally I would ditch the drol solo at week 3 also.
So I would run something like this:
Test prop or phenylprop-400/week
Tren ace-200/week
Mast-200/week
Or this:
Test prop(or phenyl prop)-400/week
Tren ace-200/week
Winstrol-350/week
[quote]xXDevilDogXx wrote:
I like the one that World alluded to in his goodbye thread.
It is Anadrol and Winstrol run 1 week on, 1 week off. He says this way you don’t have to have a rigorous PCT in place.[/quote]
I like that idear too Devil… Actually thats part of where I got the idea to make this thread. I wonder what dosages he was running? He wasn’t running it to put any serious size. It was mainly for recovery.
[quote]mingledorff7 wrote:
xXDevilDogXx wrote:
I like the one that World alluded to in his goodbye thread.
It is Anadrol and Winstrol run 1 week on, 1 week off. He says this way you don’t have to have a rigorous PCT in place.
I like that idear too Devil… Actually thats part of where I got the idea to make this thread. I wonder what dosages he was running? He wasn’t running it to put any serious size. It was mainly for recovery.[/quote]
Yeah, World and I got to be friends initially from his uber curiosity about running the drol/win shorties. Bushy knew I was into the oral cycles and had given me the idea first, and you could say that I made some of the first detailed logs on it, then it started to become more mainstream, and “fashionable”, lol. In case you are interested.
This thread has given me an idea - following to old 3wk blitz’ of old…
more than one - this isnt for the benefits spoken about in RE: suppression… but effective none the less i am willing to bet… a dirty bulk followed by a nice clean run to help to retain that shit!
Maybe some var in there… These are with compounds i have, so that is why there is no tren… although it would be nice, possibly ran at a dosage of 50mg/d for the 6 weeks.
Yeah, World and I got to be friends initially from his uber curiosity about running the drol/win shorties. Bushy knew I was into the oral cycles and had given me the idea first, and you could say that I made some of the first detailed logs on it, then it started to become more mainstream, and “fashionable”, lol. In case you are interested.[/quote]
Haha, I am interested Tone… I plan to run a “long” cycle twards the end of this year. Next year I plan on running shortys most likely running drol/win in a one week on, one week off protocal. Possibly the cycle I stated in my opening post. Could you please send me some of the blue prints you have?
[quote]mingledorff7 wrote:
Yeah, World and I got to be friends initially from his uber curiosity about running the drol/win shorties. Bushy knew I was into the oral cycles and had given me the idea first, and you could say that I made some of the first detailed logs on it, then it started to become more mainstream, and “fashionable”, lol. In case you are interested.
Haha, I am interested Tone… I plan to run a “long” cycle twards the end of this year. Next year I plan on running shortys most likely running drol/win in a one week on, one week off protocal. Possibly the cycle I stated in my opening post. Could you please send me some of the blue prints you have?
Cheers
Mingledorff[/quote]
Yeah Mingles,
I gotta run for now, but I’ll try to get a pm to you later this evening sometime.
I’ve been thinking about doing a 2 week on, 2 week off set of 4 cycles with Test-E and Adex.
wk 1-2
600mg Test-E injected at week start
wk 1-3
2ml Adex daily
wk 4-5
off
repeat
My current thinking is that this would be too short a cycle for the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to shut off normal test production. PCT could be lighter and overall the side effects would be a lot less. The gains should still be there though, but in smaller, more frequent bursts.
Long term, I wonder if this wouldn’t reduce AAS resistance and reducing the need to use higher doses in later cycles.
[quote]MightyMaus wrote:
I’ve been thinking about doing a 2 week on, 2 week off set of 4 cycles with Test-E and Adex.
wk 1-2
600mg Test-E injected at week start
wk 1-3
2ml Adex daily
wk 4-5
off
repeat
My current thinking is that this would be too short a cycle for the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to shut off normal test production. PCT could be lighter and overall the side effects would be a lot less. The gains should still be there though, but in smaller, more frequent bursts.
Long term, I wonder if this wouldn’t reduce AAS resistance and reducing the need to use higher doses in later cycles.[/quote]
What would most likely happen is that sides would be more pronounced because of unstable blood levels. Plus not much benefit would be made because it takes time for the enathate to reach it peak. I guess if you repeated the cycle 2 or 3 times some type of gains could be made though. It just seems that a simple 10-12 weeker on test e would be the better choice. So basically it seems as if it would just be a rollercoaster ride with not much gains.
Test prop does seems to be the better choice for what you are trying to do.
[quote]MightyMaus wrote:
I’ve been thinking about doing a 2 week on, 2 week off set of 4 cycles with Test-E and Adex.
wk 1-2
600mg Test-E injected at week start
wk 1-3
2ml Adex daily
wk 4-5
off
repeat
My current thinking is that this would be too short a cycle for the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to shut off normal test production. PCT could be lighter and overall the side effects would be a lot less. The gains should still be there though, but in smaller, more frequent bursts.
Long term, I wonder if this wouldn’t reduce AAS resistance and reducing the need to use higher doses in later cycles.[/quote]
Wtf? Pickapeck had a decent theory regarding a similar use of the enanthate ester, maybe that’s where you got the idea or not I don’t know, but his was much more thought out and intelligently designed than this.
.
Adex at 2ml/day, what the hell does that mean to us?
How many mg/day are you talking about?
No nolvadex for your adex run either in weeks 4 and 5?
Estro rebound could be a possibility there, depending on your dose, which again, we don’t know by your 2ml amount.
Always good to think outside the box, but I don’t see this to be a good idea at all.
Do a real shorty properly and you’ll get the benefits that make them worthwhile. Don’t do this.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
mingledorff7 wrote:
Yeah, World and I got to be friends initially from his uber curiosity about running the drol/win shorties. Bushy knew I was into the oral cycles and had given me the idea first, and you could say that I made some of the first detailed logs on it, then it started to become more mainstream, and “fashionable”, lol. In case you are interested.
Haha, I am interested Tone… I plan to run a “long” cycle twards the end of this year. Next year I plan on running shortys most likely running drol/win in a one week on, one week off protocal. Possibly the cycle I stated in my opening post. Could you please send me some of the blue prints you have?
Cheers
Mingledorff
Yeah Mingles,
I gotta run for now, but I’ll try to get a pm to you later this evening sometime.