I asked about this before, and the argument against post workout fats was that with the presence of insulin fat is more easily stored (tell me if I got that wrong, cause I’m stupid).
Morg,
I too read here that there have been some studies mentioning that PWO fats can be beneficial. As long as they are the “good” fat variety (ie…fish, flax, olive). Albeit, I would still be reluctant to consume any significant amount. The whole idea of postworkout nutrition is to replenish glycogen stores (which fat doesn’t do). Besides you can get your “good” fats in later in the day…right?
Agree with Tony. The main reason for the carbs after workout is that there is no better time to take them in, your muscle’s are in need of replenishment. Then consume your good fats at a later/earlier point when you can benefit from there ability to cause your body to concentrate on burning fat. So yes your body will burn fat post workout, frankly it will burn anything you throw at it. That being said though, the reasoning behind taking in the carbs pwo is to get the most bang for the buck. It is all in a quest to get every little edge you can from the combination of training / nutrition. So why waste some of your alloted pwo K/cals on fats when they will be of more benefit at other times and inturn reduce the carbs when they are needed. But if you must, go for it, we are all just telling you what works for us.
Morg,
Its all about the anabolic window. That 4-6 hour time frame AFTER training where consuming your quality CHO’s and protein should be maximized. As myself and Phill have alluded to…the purpose of post workout nutrition is to replenish glycogen stores and shuttle those CHO’s and protein into muscle cells. This is the time where you want to MINIMIZE fat, because insulin is sky rocketing at this time and if you are eating any significant amount of fat with CHO’s, it stands to reason that fat will be shuttled into muscle cells and stored as…you guessed it…FAT! Have your post workout drink, 60 minutes later have another P+C whole food meal consisting of a 2:1 CHO:protein ratio (based off of LBM). Focus on getting your “healthy” fats with your P+F meals, as that is when they will be put to use more efficiently. Make sense?
Thanks for the reply, but it doesn’t make sense to me.
“if you are eating any significant amount of fat with CHO’s, it stands to reason that fat will be shuttled into muscle cells and stored as…you guessed it…FAT!”
That article that I gave in my original post said just the opposite…that fat wouldn’t be stored but burned.
I realize the reasoning behind the protein and carbs, it’s just what that article mentioned regarding fat post-workout and the common recommendations to keep things low fat post-workout.
Also, it helps me be able to keep things varied. I love beef, but it’s fatty. But if fat doesn’t matter according to that article, then I can eat that for my post-workout meal. Or I could add some sour cream to my baked potato or something. If it’s more enjoyable, then it’s more likely that I’ll eat it all up quickly and get my protein and carbs. There’s nothing more difficult than choking down a lean meat like chicken and a plain mashed potato. Yeck. Although that’s just personal preference.
If things such as sour cream is the only prob then but the no fat version for your post workout meals. When I do get sour cream, cottage cheese, cream cheese, etc. I buy the no fat. That way it is able to be used for either p+c or p+f meals. Also try other stuff like salsas, and such as toppings. Nothing wrong with LEAN beef, I would just save it for a p+f meal and have a salad or some type of low gi carb with it. Hope that helps.
I am an ectomorph and an extremely finniky eater so to gain mass I usually include a weight gainer. As for my after workout shake I add pure whey protein isolate in combination of approx. 120grms carbs (1 heaping scoop of weight gainer) and last of all 7 tablespoons of olive oil or safflower oil. 3wk later i was 12lbs heavier.
I honestly believe that as long as you have your post workout carbs it makes no difference if you include fats. The body uses what it needs at the time. Don’t sweat it bro it worked for me. but of course I had my 5-6 meals a day and the quality of my diet was excellent
Hmm, that stuff sounds nasty. Sugar has no place in sour cream. The stuff I get is just gelatin and cultured cream. That’s it. No sugar, genetically modified cornstarch or anything.
I am wondering why you are pushing this so much?
-the fats will slow absorbtion of the carbs and protein
-the fats are MORE LIKELY to be stored as body fat in the prescence of insulin. This is however LESS likely post workout. being less likely doesnt mean it is advisable!!
-consuming fats later on in the day will help lower insulin output when it is not needed, so have your fats then.
right , got it?
good.
try to think of what is optimal and not what is passable. otherwise you may aswell go eat a donut with all the other fat slobs out there