Porn Addiction

Madaline Ghenea ?

As the late great humorist Lewis Grizzard once pointed out, ?Naked is when you ain?t got no clothes on. Nekkid is when you ain?t got no clothes on and you?re up to something."

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Madaline Ghenea ?[/quote]

Bam!

You’re a fan, Max?

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]

I totally agree with this.

I’ll try and go into it more when I have a bit more time, but it applies to absolutely everything.

None of what you posted qualifies as porn, Dr. P. That’s mildly erotic nude photography, at most. Completely different ballpark than some of the DVDA level stuff that is really popular now.

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Madaline Ghenea ?[/quote]

Bam!

You’re a fan, Max?[/quote]

I am now.

[quote]sen say wrote:

I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]

Men are designed to crave variety and spread their seed. Just look at examples of men who’ve cheated on their hot ass wives with less attractive women

Hugh Grant banged this broad while he had Liz Hurley at home:

Tiger Woods

Kobe Bryant

We’re also designed to be attracted mostly to women in their fertile years. You almost semi-regularly see men throw away their marriages and careers just to have sex with a young hot piece of ass.

Bill Clinton

Gen. Petraeus

Ken Phillips (ESPN writer who slept with the 22 year old intern)

Maybe some of men are able to suppress these desires better than others? I dunno.

Also take a closer look at what you wrote

[quote]sen say wrote:

Older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. [/quote]

Through your choice of phrasing it’s almost as if you’re barely convinced yourself of what you wrote.

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]

Men are designed to crave variety and spread their seed. Just look at examples of men who’ve cheated on their hot ass wives with less attractive women

Hugh Grant banged this broad while he had Liz Hurley at home:

Tiger Woods

Kobe Bryant

We’re also designed to be attracted mostly to women in their fertile years. You almost semi-regularly see men throw away their marriages and careers just to have sex with a young hot piece of ass.

Bill Clinton

Gen. Petraeus

Ken Phillips (ESPN writer who slept with the 22 year old intern)

Maybe some of men are able to suppress these desires better than others? I dunno.

Also take a closer look at what you wrote

[quote]sen say wrote:

Older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. [/quote]

Through your choice of phrasing it’s almost as if you’re barely convinced yourself of what you wrote.[/quote]

Not sure what he meant by that either
 Plently of people are married for a long time and have no issues with their wives
 Usually it seems to be something more of resentment that builds into lack of sexual intimacy or some other outlet being expressed
 finding needs elsewhere etc
 I never understood how celebrities end up always cheating on their super model wives with less attractive women or even like seriously trollish looking, to me it seems more like an over inflated sense of ego and some form of neediness, like a need to do these other chicks to feel good about themselves or to establish self worth
 A totally secure person would not do something like that. Yet alot of the general public idolizes these people into some sort of image and they end up playing their own roles made up through their own society, usually leading to self destructive behavior


[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

Crap! This thread’s going to turn into a 12-step support group. I have trouble conceiving the idea someone could be addicted to porn.

Btw Rob, I think Dr. P was just setting up a joke.[/quote]

Nope, I’m on day 2. I don’t have a problem, but porn does play a role in my life so I want to see what it would be like without it.
[/quote]
Same here. I don’t have an addiction by any means but I am interested to see how this makes me feel, physically and mentally. I’ll report back in a month, someone remind me.

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

Crap! This thread’s going to turn into a 12-step support group. I have trouble conceiving the idea someone could be addicted to porn.

Btw Rob, I think Dr. P was just setting up a joke.[/quote]

Nope, I’m on day 2. I don’t have a problem, but porn does play a role in my life so I want to see what it would be like without it.
[/quote]
Same here. I don’t have an addiction by any means but I am interested to see how this makes me feel, physically and mentally. I’ll report back in a month, someone remind me.[/quote]

Just to clarify, are yall sustaining from just porn or porn AND masturbation?

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

Just to clarify, are yall sustaining from just porn or porn AND masturbation?[/quote]

That’s crazy talk.

I’m drawing the line at porn, because the alternative ain’t happenin’.

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]

Men are designed to crave variety and spread their seed. Just look at examples of men who’ve cheated on their hot ass wives with less attractive women

Hugh Grant banged this broad while he had Liz Hurley at home:

Tiger Woods

Kobe Bryant

We’re also designed to be attracted mostly to women in their fertile years. You almost semi-regularly see men throw away their marriages and careers just to have sex with a young hot piece of ass.

Bill Clinton

Gen. Petraeus

Ken Phillips (ESPN writer who slept with the 22 year old intern)

Maybe some of men are able to suppress these desires better than others? I dunno.

Also take a closer look at what you wrote

[quote]sen say wrote:

Older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. [/quote]

Through your choice of phrasing it’s almost as if you’re barely convinced yourself of what you wrote.[/quote]

Not sure what he meant by that either
 Plently of people are married for a long time and have no issues with their wives
 Usually it seems to be something more of resentment that builds into lack of sexual intimacy or some other outlet being expressed
 finding needs elsewhere etc
 I never understood how celebrities end up always cheating on their super model wives with less attractive women or even like seriously trollish looking, to me it seems more like an over inflated sense of ego and some form of neediness, like a need to do these other chicks to feel good about themselves or to establish self worth
 A totally secure person would not do something like that. Yet alot of the general public idolizes these people into some sort of image and they end up playing their own roles made up through their own society, usually leading to self destructive behavior

[/quote]

I think it has more to do with extreme narcissism than anything. Often to the point of solipsism.

You try living every waking moment bombarded with luxuries and attention and that would make the greatest kings in history look like assisted living candidates and see how long you keep your sense of humility about you. I imagine that Hollywood probably really is not that far removed from a Bret Easton Ellis novel.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

Just to clarify, are yall sustaining from just porn or porn AND masturbation?[/quote]

That’s crazy talk.

I’m drawing the line at porn, because the alternative ain’t happenin’.
[/quote]

I’m curious now, though, that you’ve posted those pictures as possible example of “porn,” what kind of porn are you abstaining from, and how much time was it consuming?

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]
Thank you Sen very well said.

I am going on 14 years and when I grab the wife’s ass I am in the mood for mounting.

I also work out with the wife daily, go enjoy time with friends with the wife, I very rarely go out much without her. Reason I married her, I enjoy her company. Seems very simple

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]

Men are designed to crave variety and spread their seed. Just look at examples of men who’ve cheated on their hot ass wives with less attractive women

Hugh Grant banged this broad while he had Liz Hurley at home:

Tiger Woods

Kobe Bryant

We’re also designed to be attracted mostly to women in their fertile years. You almost semi-regularly see men throw away their marriages and careers just to have sex with a young hot piece of ass.

Bill Clinton

Gen. Petraeus

Ken Phillips (ESPN writer who slept with the 22 year old intern)

Maybe some of men are able to suppress these desires better than others? I dunno.

Also take a closer look at what you wrote

[quote]sen say wrote:

Older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. [/quote]

Through your choice of phrasing it’s almost as if you’re barely convinced yourself of what you wrote.[/quote]

Not sure what he meant by that either
 Plently of people are married for a long time and have no issues with their wives
 Usually it seems to be something more of resentment that builds into lack of sexual intimacy or some other outlet being expressed
 finding needs elsewhere etc
 I never understood how celebrities end up always cheating on their super model wives with less attractive women or even like seriously trollish looking, to me it seems more like an over inflated sense of ego and some form of neediness, like a need to do these other chicks to feel good about themselves or to establish self worth
 A totally secure person would not do something like that. Yet alot of the general public idolizes these people into some sort of image and they end up playing their own roles made up through their own society, usually leading to self destructive behavior

[/quote]

I think it has more to do with extreme narcissism than anything. Often to the point of solipsism.

You try living every waking moment bombarded with luxuries and attention and that would make the greatest kings in history look like assisted living candidates and see how long you keep your sense of humility about you. I imagine that Hollywood probably really is not that far removed from a Bret Easton Ellis novel. [/quote]

Doesn’t seem restricted to Hollywood

http://www2.wjbf.com/news/2012/mar/01/41-year-old-man-resigns-teaching-job-moves-18-year-ar-3331508/

Even on dating sites there’s a growing trend in their mid-30s or older specifically stating they are only interested in women in their 20s. They are unwilling to date women their own age

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]
Thank you Sen very well said.

I am going on 14 years and when I grab the wife’s ass I am in the mood for mounting.

I also work out with the wife daily, go enjoy time with friends with the wife, I very rarely go out much without her. Reason I married her, I enjoy her company. Seems very simple[/quote]

I think a key point that many, many people nowadays fail to understand is that sex is not the only appraising factor involved in a relationship. I enjoy the time I spend with my wife no matter what we are doing. I like talking to her. I like having someone who listens to me spout off about every little thing. She is my best friend. She is my business partner. We share the same goals and are working toward them together. We are sharing the unspeakably wonderful blessing of raising two awesome little boys. And let me tell you, having kids will completely reorganize your sense of value and purpose and priority in a way that is just miraculous. My wife and I are creative and productive and happy with our lives and the sex is good and stays good because of all this other stuff.

If you think getting married just about finding a hot enough chick to bang for the rest of your life no wonder the idea doesn’t appeal to you.

I think there are very, very few lifetime bachelors who could ever hope to know the happiness and satisfaction I feel with my life. That’s not me bragging. It just is what it is.

*edit: closed tag

[quote]Cortes wrote:

I’m curious now, though, that you’ve posted those pictures as possible example of “porn,” what kind of porn are you abstaining from, and how much time was it consuming?

[/quote]

That’s a great question and one I’m trying to work out myself. I think we all can agree watching a couple fucking is pornography. But, going by Merriam-Webster, the shots I posted above are pornography as well, albeit with other redeeming features.

Pornography:

1 the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement

2 material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

3 the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

I find the last definition interesting, because I’d typically surf porn in the middle of the day when my work was slow. I’ve found that I’m substituting cars, guns, architecture, and design for naked women and receiving the same “quick intense emotional reaction” as I did when I would watch 2 girls sucking face. Obviously, I’m not jerking off to an image of a Lamborghini Gallardo, because that would just be weird. And I like the Ferrari 599 better.

So, here’s my working hypothesis: I’m a trader and through the course of my morning, I’m receiving many rewards in the form of profitable trades. Each time, the pathway from my ventral tegmental area to the nucleus accumbens lights up as it’s bathed in dopamine. This pathway is the main reward center in the brain. As my day goes on, and European markets close, there are less opportunities to trade and therefore less opportunities to get the little thrill of pleasure that comes with a winning trade. I think porn, or cars, guns, design, architecture, et al fill that role until noon when the markets pick up again.

I think this is just one role that porn (of any sort, even car porn) plays in my life. It’s obviously separate and distinct from more uh
goal-oriented porn, and porn that I watch with my GF. Same porn, much different roles.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]
Thank you Sen very well said.

I am going on 14 years and when I grab the wife’s ass I am in the mood for mounting.

I also work out with the wife daily, go enjoy time with friends with the wife, I very rarely go out much without her. Reason I married her, I enjoy her company. Seems very simple[/quote]

I think a key point that many, many people nowadays fail to understand is that sex is not the only appraising factor involved in a relationship. I enjoy the time I spend with my wife no matter what we are doing. I like talking to her. I like having someone who listens to me spout off about every little thing. She is my best friend. She is my business partner. We share the same goals and are working toward them together. We are sharing the unspeakably wonderful blessing of raising two awesome little boys. And let me tell you, having kids will completely reorganize your sense of value and purpose and priority in a way that is just miraculous. My wife and I are creative and productive and happy with our lives and the sex is good and stays good [i]because[/b] of all this other stuff.

If you think getting married just about finding a hot enough chick to bang for the rest of your life no wonder the idea doesn’t appeal to you.

I think there are very, very few lifetime bachelors who could ever hope to know the happiness and satisfaction I feel with my life. That’s not me bragging. It just is what it is. [/quote]

X2!!

I didn’t burden myself with reading through most of this thread, but I quite agree with much of what you posted (that I have read), Cortes.

Additionally (if it hasn’t been stated before), there seems to be an unlimited source of porn available these days, and is there any coincidence that a large percentage of marriages end in divorce, ED rates are at an all-time high, and even young men are finding the need for Viagra?

I’m 50 and have NO problem getting erections anytime. And although I occasionally enjoy viewing artful female nude pics, nothing turns me on more than my lovely wife.

EDIT: How the hell did this end up in italics?

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]
Thank you Sen very well said.

I am going on 14 years and when I grab the wife’s ass I am in the mood for mounting.

I also work out with the wife daily, go enjoy time with friends with the wife, I very rarely go out much without her. Reason I married her, I enjoy her company. Seems very simple[/quote]

I think a key point that many, many people nowadays fail to understand is that sex is not the only appraising factor involved in a relationship. I enjoy the time I spend with my wife no matter what we are doing. I like talking to her. I like having someone who listens to me spout off about every little thing. She is my best friend. She is my business partner. We share the same goals and are working toward them together. We are sharing the unspeakably wonderful blessing of raising two awesome little boys. And let me tell you, having kids will completely reorganize your sense of value and purpose and priority in a way that is just miraculous. My wife and I are creative and productive and happy with our lives and the sex is good and stays good because of all this other stuff.

If you think getting married just about finding a hot enough chick to bang for the rest of your life no wonder the idea doesn’t appeal to you.

I think there are very, very few lifetime bachelors who could ever hope to know the happiness and satisfaction I feel with my life. That’s not me bragging. It just is what it is. [/quote]

X2!!

I didn’t burden myself with reading through most of this thread, but I quite agree with much of what you posted (that I have read), Cortes.

Additionally (if it hasn’t been stated before), there seems to be an unlimited source of porn available these days, and is there any coincidence that a large percentage of marriages end in divorce, ED rates are at an all-time high, and even young men are finding the need for Viagra?

I’m 50 and have NO problem getting erections anytime. And although I occasionally enjoy viewing artful female nude pics, nothing turns me on more than my lovely wife.

EDIT: How the hell did this end up in italics?
[/quote]
Cortes typed b instead of i

Cortes I agree 100% and ID it would seem (at least here) that we are in a minority in regards to marriage.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]sen say wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wife’s ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.

[/quote]
I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:

I have been married to She Say for almost 19 years
the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insane
I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesn’ mean it’s 100% true. I have friends that complain they’ve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ‘their boys’ and taking golf vacations with ‘their boys’
no wonder they’ve lost interest in their wives as I can’t imagine their wives are very interested in them.

It’s really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Don’t buy into your older friend’s comment. [/quote]
Thank you Sen very well said.

I am going on 14 years and when I grab the wife’s ass I am in the mood for mounting.

I also work out with the wife daily, go enjoy time with friends with the wife, I very rarely go out much without her. Reason I married her, I enjoy her company. Seems very simple[/quote]

I think a key point that many, many people nowadays fail to understand is that sex is not the only appraising factor involved in a relationship. I enjoy the time I spend with my wife no matter what we are doing. I like talking to her. I like having someone who listens to me spout off about every little thing. She is my best friend. She is my business partner. We share the same goals and are working toward them together. We are sharing the unspeakably wonderful blessing of raising two awesome little boys. And let me tell you, having kids will completely reorganize your sense of value and purpose and priority in a way that is just miraculous. My wife and I are creative and productive and happy with our lives and the sex is good and stays good because of all this other stuff.

If you think getting married just about finding a hot enough chick to bang for the rest of your life no wonder the idea doesn’t appeal to you.

I think there are very, very few lifetime bachelors who could ever hope to know the happiness and satisfaction I feel with my life. That’s not me bragging. It just is what it is. [/quote]

X2!!

I didn’t burden myself with reading through most of this thread, but I quite agree with much of what you posted (that I have read), Cortes.

Additionally (if it hasn’t been stated before), there seems to be an unlimited source of porn available these days, and is there any coincidence that a large percentage of marriages end in divorce, ED rates are at an all-time high, and even young men are finding the need for Viagra?

I’m 50 and have NO problem getting erections anytime. And although I occasionally enjoy viewing artful female nude pics, nothing turns me on more than my lovely wife.

EDIT: How the hell did this end up in italics?
[/quote]

Sorry, ID, that was my fault. I messed up a quote tag that’s now been closed. But obviously I can’t edit your post.