[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
In the spirit of this thread, what is the weirdest crap you came across and still found mildly stimulating?[/quote]
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Yea - it really is the immediate access to the kinkiest sex imaginable that makes the difference.
What the hell is a 13 year old boy going to think when he sees hundreds of hours of that shit? I mean - youāre going from zero to sixty instantly. Thereās no natural progression, or step-wise initiation into sexual behavior.
I mean, I have no problem with consenting adults engaging in whatever they want - hell, Iām a dirty motherfucker myselfā¦lolā¦within reason of course. But a kid with no sexual experience seeing the kind of stuff thatās available today (as Cortes said, this is unprecedented) - man that can be a recipe for a variety of BIG problemsā¦[/quote]
What the hell is a 13 year old boy going to think when he sees hundreds of hours of death and gore? I mean - your going from zero to sixty instantly. Thereās no natural progression, or step-wise initiation into violence.
But a kid with no experience of violence seeing that kind of stuff thatās available today - man that can be a recipe for a variety of BIG problems
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Canāt answer my question so you resort to a smart ass commentā¦lol. And yesā¦all that violence could certainly have a detrimental effect on a kid. Now, please show me proof of your insistence that Iām talking out my ass or STFU since you canāt seem to have an intelligent conversation on the matter. You know damn well that the kind of imagery weāre talking about absolutely can have an effect, and if you truly donāt think so youāre even dumber than I initially
thoughtā¦
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Everything you said just came out your ass
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Well, clearly at 22 years old youāve completed your Phd in Clinical Psychology (with a specialization in porn addiction of course)and can provide us with a myriad of peer reviewed studies (published in actual medical journals) youāve completed regarding this subject matter.
I hope youāll include brain scans of teenage boys with comparison to say, 30 years ago so you can definitively make the official diagnosis of ātalking out oneās assā. Iām sure thatās in the ICD-9 book youāre undoubtedly completely familiar with.
Looking forward to your info! [/quote]
Actually to an extent itās been very well researched, just under the term āInternet addictionā because they have never specified for porn aloneā¦ But a very
high number of those addicts were on porn sitesā¦ Also seeing how porn and social networking is the most used feature in Internet accessā¦ Why do you need such evidence to know it simply causes problems?? Canāt people just use intuition and a bit of common knowledgeā¦ Not saying you are wrong in your questions but for this case you have people who had a problem, by the thousandsā¦ Some of them start giving up the porn and low and behold look how much better they feel? You donāt have to agree with the research but the fact is people are getting their lives back because of the help so why bash it?
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What the hell are you talking about? Please read the whole thread before commenting and quoting me out of context. The 22 year old wonder boy there decided to make a smart ass comment about my agreement with Cortes that all this access to such hardcore porn at such a young age can absolutely have a detrimental effect on young teenagers.
Iām the one AGGREEING that there could definitely be addiction issues because of that. Instead of intelligently discussing why he disagrees, he just acts like a typical internet dick and drops a wise ass comment. So I sarcastically asked him for his proof that it doesnāt. You get it now? You just literally got the whole thing backwards.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Everything you said just came out your ass
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Well, clearly at 22 years old youāve completed your Phd in Clinical Psychology (with a specialization in porn addiction of course)and can provide us with a myriad of peer reviewed studies (published in actual medical journals) youāve completed regarding this subject matter.
I hope youāll include brain scans of teenage boys with comparison to say, 30 years ago so you can definitively make the official diagnosis of ātalking out oneās assā. Iām sure thatās in the ICD-9 book youāre undoubtedly completely familiar with.
Looking forward to your info! [/quote]
Actually to an extent itās been very well researched, just under the term āInternet addictionā because they have never specified for porn aloneā¦ But a very
high number of those addicts were on porn sitesā¦ Also seeing how porn and social networking is the most used feature in Internet accessā¦ Why do you need such evidence to know it simply causes problems?? Canāt people just use intuition and a bit of common knowledgeā¦ Not saying you are wrong in your questions but for this case you have people who had a problem, by the thousandsā¦ Some of them start giving up the porn and low and behold look how much better they feel? You donāt have to agree with the research but the fact is people are getting their lives back because of the help so why bash it?
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What the hell are you talking about? Please read the whole thread before commenting and quoting me out of context. The 22 year old wonder boy there decided to make a smart ass comment about my agreement with Cortes that all this access to such hardcore porn at such a young age can absolutely have a detrimental effect on young teenagers.
Iām the one AGGREEING that there could definitely be addiction issues because of that. Instead of intelligently discussing why he disagrees, he just acts like a typical internet dick and drops a wise ass comment. So I sarcastically asked him for his proof that it doesnāt. You get it now? You just literally got the whole thing backwards.
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hahaha my bad bro! I wrote on the earlier pages too, same thoughts you and cortes have.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Yea - it really is the immediate access to the kinkiest sex imaginable that makes the difference.
What the hell is a 13 year old boy going to think when he sees hundreds of hours of that shit? I mean - youāre going from zero to sixty instantly. Thereās no natural progression, or step-wise initiation into sexual behavior.
I mean, I have no problem with consenting adults engaging in whatever they want - hell, Iām a dirty motherfucker myselfā¦lolā¦within reason of course. But a kid with no sexual experience seeing the kind of stuff thatās available today (as Cortes said, this is unprecedented) - man that can be a recipe for a variety of BIG problemsā¦[/quote]
What the hell is a 13 year old boy going to think when he sees hundreds of hours of death and gore? I mean - your going from zero to sixty instantly. Thereās no natural progression, or step-wise initiation into violence.
But a kid with no experience of violence seeing that kind of stuff thatās available today - man that can be a recipe for a variety of BIG problems
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Canāt answer my question so you resort to a smart ass commentā¦lol. And yesā¦all that violence could certainly have a detrimental effect on a kid. Now, please show me proof of your insistence that Iām talking out my ass or STFU since you canāt seem to have an intelligent conversation on the matter. You know damn well that the kind of imagery weāre talking about absolutely can have an effect, and if you truly donāt think so youāre even dumber than I initially
thoughtā¦
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You sound very angry like a guy who is dying to earn respect from his peers. I never insulted your character yet here you are going off. Yet you want an intelligent conversation? Cool beans
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Everything you said just came out your ass
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Well, clearly at 22 years old youāve completed your Phd in Clinical Psychology (with a specialization in porn addiction of course)and can provide us with a myriad of peer reviewed studies (published in actual medical journals) youāve completed regarding this subject matter.
I hope youāll include brain scans of teenage boys with comparison to say, 30 years ago so you can definitively make the official diagnosis of ātalking out oneās assā. Iām sure thatās in the ICD-9 book youāre undoubtedly completely familiar with.
Looking forward to your info! [/quote]
Actually to an extent itās been very well researched, just under the term āInternet addictionā because they have never specified for porn aloneā¦ But a very
high number of those addicts were on porn sitesā¦ Also seeing how porn and social networking is the most used feature in Internet accessā¦ Why do you need such evidence to know it simply causes problems?? Canāt people just use intuition and a bit of common knowledgeā¦ Not saying you are wrong in your questions but for this case you have people who had a problem, by the thousandsā¦ Some of them start giving up the porn and low and behold look how much better they feel? You donāt have to agree with the research but the fact is people are getting their lives back because of the help so why bash it?
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What the hell are you talking about? Please read the whole thread before commenting and quoting me out of context. The 22 year old wonder boy there decided to make a smart ass comment about my agreement with Cortes that all this access to such hardcore porn at such a young age can absolutely have a detrimental effect on young teenagers.
Iām the one AGGREEING that there could definitely be addiction issues because of that. Instead of intelligently discussing why he disagrees, he just acts like a typical internet dick and drops a wise ass comment. So I sarcastically asked him for his proof that it doesnāt. You get it now? You just literally got the whole thing backwards.
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You want me to show proof yet you have showed any proof of any sort. Cool beans once again. Once again calm down on the insults makes you seem insecure. Yesā¦ Iām 22 I knowā¦
Ahhh Stoya. Imhungry, from a recovering addictās point of view thatās not particularly helpful ā¦ 
Jokes aside, a simple gif like that would drive me to relapse when I was in the deepest depths of my addiction. A thought that amazes me now that Iāve been clean for so long, but thatās how extreme this disease can be.
Something interesting I found in Scientific American:
http://melindawenner.com/Clips_files/smut.pdf
Iām not for or against porn. Sexuality can be a beautiful thing. It can also be extremely ugly. As someone already said, porn is a tool. It can be used for better or for worse. I feel that itās had positive and negative effects on me as a person.
[quote]FlameofOsiris wrote:
Something interesting I found in Scientific American:
Iām not for or against porn. Sexuality can be a beautiful thing. It can also be extremely ugly. As someone already said, porn is a tool. It can be used for better or for worse. I feel that itās had positive and negative effects on me as a person.[/quote]
Thatās interesting, especially the interpretation in the last section:
I thought it was interesting too. That last paragraph could be applied to many things. When I used to be religious, I found the ātemptationā to be uncontrollable. After ārenouncingā my religion, I found that I could take it or leave it. I didnāt feel guilty about it anymore so the urge dissipated. The more we dwell on it, the harder it is to resist it. This worked for me with my diet as well. The more I focused on eating āhealthy,ā the more likely I was to focus on food in general and binge. When I took a step back and allowed myself to relax a bit, cutting became much easier.
[quote]FlameofOsiris wrote:
I thought it was interesting too. That last paragraph could be applied to many things. When I used to be religious, I found the ātemptationā to be uncontrollable. After ārenouncingā my religion, I found that I could take it or leave it. I didnāt feel guilty about it anymore so the urge dissipated. The more we dwell on it, the harder it is to resist it. This worked for me with my diet as well. The more I focused on eating āhealthy,ā the more likely I was to focus on food in general and binge. When I took a step back and allowed myself to relax a bit, cutting became much easier.[/quote]
I can see that happening.
I have also wondered if the devout have actually had as much of a problem their church has been telling them theyāve had.
I have a friend who Iāve known for a long time before he found God. We both partied together and I admit we partied hard but never in a way that ever said to me we were out of control and not really anything out of the ordinary for people in their early twenties.
According to my recollection we just had some fun and were pretty normal but according to him he had a drinking problem was a drug addict and was recklessly sleeping with loose women (yeah right dude had a hard time getting laid!)
Iām never touching my own penis againā¦ 
lol at how this thread blew up
[quote]therajraj wrote:
An older married guy once told me that grabbing your wifeās ass eventually feels no different than grabbing your own ass.
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I hope someone else has already bitch-slapped you for making this ridiculous statement, but if not:
I have been married to She Say for almost 19 yearsā¦the idea that grabbing her ass would inspire anything but passion is insaneā¦I know that popular idiot culture likes to promulgate older married men lose interest sexually in their wives, but it doesnā mean itās 100% true. I have friends that complain theyāve lost interest in their wives, but these are the guys spending 12 hours on Sunday watching football, spending 6 hours on Wednesdays playing poker with ātheir boysā and taking golf vacations with ātheir boysāā¦no wonder theyāve lost interest in their wives as I canāt imagine their wives are very interested in them.
Itās really up to you whether or not you let longevity ruin a relationship. Donāt buy into your older friendās comment.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
I also fantasize backwardsā¦Iām more interested in thinking about things weāve already done or recently done than in things Iād like to do,[/quote]
I read somewhere years ago that men tend to look back and fantasize about banging women they didnāt actually bang while women fantasize about men they actually have banged in the pastā¦is this the same as what youāre sayingā¦kinda?
[quote]Diddy Ryder wrote:
Heavy porn users literally out-wank their libido,[/quote]
Sounds like the work of the boner phantom !
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]FlameofOsiris wrote:
I thought it was interesting too. That last paragraph could be applied to many things. When I used to be religious, I found the ātemptationā to be uncontrollable. After ārenouncingā my religion, I found that I could take it or leave it. I didnāt feel guilty about it anymore so the urge dissipated. The more we dwell on it, the harder it is to resist it. This worked for me with my diet as well. The more I focused on eating āhealthy,ā the more likely I was to focus on food in general and binge. When I took a step back and allowed myself to relax a bit, cutting became much easier.[/quote]
I can see that happening.
I have also wondered if the devout have actually had as much of a problem their church has been telling them theyāve had.
I have a friend who Iāve known for a long time before he found God. We both partied together and I admit we partied hard but never in a way that ever said to me we were out of control and not really anything out of the ordinary for people in their early twenties.
According to my recollection we just had some fun and were pretty normal but according to him he had a drinking problem was a drug addict and was recklessly sleeping with loose women (yeah right dude had a hard time getting laid!)
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lol. People tend to remember things in ways that they want to. Logical people call this delusion.
Not that this will prove anything, but Iām on day 2, porn-free. Although, Stoya up above nearly caused me a nasty relapse.
No Ifeelmyself.com, no redtube, no Chive, no Boston Barstool, no Fleshbot.
Work is much more boring.
yup