[quote]Wreckless wrote:
If christianity is a religion of peace, why did your born again retard attack Iraq?[/quote]
Was war declared on Iraq in the name of Christianity? I must have missed that one. Did the pope declare that war? I thought he was dead-set against it.
Like always, a number of Muslims have reacted with complete idiocy and lunacy to these comments.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
What is scary about all of this is there seems to be a decent percentage of the Muslim world that supports open war against the West. Also, there are many more Muslims who are probably quietly supporting this notion.
Meanwhile, the West fights with itself and refuses to recognize what is going on.
Scary times indeed.
As an aside, to prove the Pope wrong, the radicals shot an elderly nun. [/quote]
Could Islam have been created by Satan? It does appear to play the role of an ‘Anti-Christ’. Its even gotten Irish wanting to kill the bastards! ;
A culture of hatred is being formed over there, one which will probably lead to global war. Guess we’re all fucked.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Bullshit. You are delusional.
It’s okay to talk about the fact that Bush has shortcomings without it being necessary to imagine that he is being blamed for something.
Lay off the kool-aid.[/quote]
Maybe you should take your own advice.
This is a thread about what the Pope said. Last I checked, G-Dub was not a Catholic, had not ties to the Catholic church, and as far as anyone knows does not have the ear of the Pope.
And you find this a suitable forum to Bash the president?
You sound a lot like wreckless “the rabid poodle”. Not as hate filled - but the rhetoric is very similar to the post he made a few down from yours.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat36 wrote:
“We tell the worshipper of the cross (the Pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya,” said an Internet statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq’s branch of al Qaeda, according to the Reuters news agency.
“We shall break the cross and spill the wine. … God will (help) Muslims to conquer Rome. … God enable us to slit their throats, and make their money and descendants the bounty of the mujahideen,” said the statement
…Nice!
NOOO, they are not violent! They will kill your ass to prove it too.
Muslims conquering Rome…my fucking balls. It will be a cold day in hell…[/quote]
I agree. Muslim or not, whoever attacks a country simply for the purpose of destroying it deserves to go to hell. But that is God’s decision, not mine.
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
If christianity is a religion of peace, why did your born again retard attack Iraq?[/quote]
The Pope, as I recall, told Bush that he was going to hell if he attacked Iraq.
This isn’t a Catholic war buddy.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Maybe you should take your own advice.
This is a thread about what the Pope said. Last I checked, G-Dub was not a Catholic, had not ties to the Catholic church, and as far as anyone knows does not have the ear of the Pope.
And you find this a suitable forum to Bash the president?
You sound a lot like wreckless “the rabid poodle”. Not as hate filled - but the rhetoric is very similar to the post he made a few down from yours. [/quote]
More bullshit.
You came in talking about Bush, but then get all uppity when someone responds to your bullshit?
Grab a fucking clue.
[quote]vroom wrote:
More bullshit.
You came in talking about Bush, but then get all uppity when someone responds to your bullshit?
Grab a fucking clue.[/quote]
Vroom - are you back under the thinking tree again? You must be since you have started back to putting words in peoples’ mouths.
This is the fist thing I “came in” saying:
[i]No , no, no - You don’t understand. It is the U.S.'s fault that muslims behave in this fashion.
Damn Lenoir and his invention. Damn Henry Ford and his cars.
It is all our fault.[/i]
Now plwase tell me where I even mentioned Bush.
Instead of telling others to grab a clue - you might want to make sure you have one of the motherfuckers first.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Instead of telling others to grab a clue - you might want to make sure you have one of the motherfuckers first. [/quote]
So, when you said the following, you didn’t mention Bush?
[quote]If the Catholics fight back - they will be branded as Right-wing radicals. The islamo-fascists will gain the sympathy of the America Haters, and someone will undoubtedly blame Bush.
[/quote]
Alternately, find a post I made that refers to Bush prior to that one.
Please, do the world a favor, clues are just laying around all over the place, pick a few up and give them a glance.
[quote]vroom wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Instead of telling others to grab a clue - you might want to make sure you have one of the motherfuckers first.
So, when you said the following, you didn’t mention Bush?
If the Catholics fight back - they will be branded as Right-wing radicals. The islamo-fascists will gain the sympathy of the America Haters, and someone will undoubtedly blame Bush.
Alternately, find a post I made that refers to Bush prior to that one.
Please, do the world a favor, clues are just laying around all over the place, pick a few up and give them a glance.[/quote]
You need to get your time line correctly. You said I “came in” with the Bush quote. I posted my first post in this thread - which would be when I “came in”, not the post immediately prior to yours.
It’s called chronological order. I know it is more than two syllables - but look it up.
And then instead of just locating the clues - take your own advice and “give them a glance” yourself.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
You need to get your time line correctly. You said I “came in” with the Bush quote. I posted my first post in this thread - which would be when I “came in”, not the post immediately prior to yours.
It’s called chronological order. I know it is more than two syllables - but look it up.
And then instead of just locating the clues - take your own advice and “give them a glance” yourself.
[/quote]
Spare me the histrionics Nancy.
You are just trying way too hard to pick a fight and you are ignoring your rampant hypocrisy in the process.
Stop wasting my time with your childish bullshit.
What kind of fucking loser argues that “you said it was my first post but it was my second”. Seriously. Tell me you’ve got more to bring to the table than that?
[quote]vroom wrote:
What kind of fucking loser argues that “you said it was my first post but it was my second”. Seriously. Tell me you’ve got more to bring to the table than that?[/quote]
The kind that listens to what is said and does not move forward until the one pissing and moaning can understand that stupid accusations do not get swept under the rug.
And please - what hypocrisy? You are using words way bigger than your brain.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
And please - what hypocrisy? You are using words way bigger than your brain.
[/quote]
Oh, maybe bringing Bush into the conversation and then griping about the fact you get a response.
Say goodnight Nancy, we’re done here. You’ve got nothing to say and we’ve derailed this thread more than enough.
Is it any suprise that people in the world think that Islam is a faith of hatred and violence. What ever moderation that it may have had, it seems to become over-run with extremism. If I where muslim I would be so humilated by my faith.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Sounds like a religion based on the “macho” concepts of being the baddest badasses on the planet. Since when is thuggery a religion?[/quote]
Well, there was the Thuggee cult in India between the 13th and 19th Centuries. Nominally Hindu and Muslim, the Thugs worshipped Kali (goddess of annihilation), and practiced widescale robbery, thievery and murder, most often by strangling their victims, whom they would then throw into wells.
An extreme example, yes, but then religion and thuggery have aided and abetted one another for millennia.
“In all ages hypocrites, called priests, have put crowns on the heads of thieves, called kings.”
The Muslim extremists think that the war on terror is an attack on islam itself.
And they are right.
Muslim jihadists are responsible for how much terrorism? Pretty much all of it? So yeah, they are the fucking problem we are trying to eliminate. As soon as violent muslim extremist fundies stop killing folks, then we can all get back to getting along with each other. Just think: it won’t be so embarrasing/shameful to say that you are a muslim anymore, because the most outspoken representatives of your religion won’t be the ones murdering innocent men, women, and children.
Wouldn’t that be nice?
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Just think: it won’t be so embarrasing/shameful to say that you are a muslim anymore, because the most outspoken representatives of your religion won’t be the ones murdering innocent men, women, and children.
Wouldn’t that be nice?[/quote]
I have never met a Muslim who was ashamed or embarassed to be a Muslim. And I have met a lot of Muslims.
Islam is the second-largest religion in the world, and the fastest-growing. 1.4 billion people, and none of them seem to be terribly ashamed or embarassed about their chosen faith.
And anyway, “the most outspoken representatives” of Islam are not the terrorists. It’s just that unless one of the senior clerics make some pronouncement that directly affects the West, nobody outside the Muslim world pays much attention.
Much like the Muslim world ignores the Pope unless he says something that offends them.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I have never met a Muslim who was ashamed pr embarassed to be a Muslim. And I have met a lot of Muslims.[/quote]
Yeah… I guess that was a loaded statement on my part. But they SHOULD be ashamed, dammit! Dancing around on 9/11, applauding when that cartoonist was killed in Denmark, etc., etc. the list we could make here would be quite long.
However, I might beg to differ with you here. Suicide bombing yourself so that you can kill innocent people in the name of God is a pretty loud religious statement. And it’s not just one or two folks a year who do this, either.
In Iran, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei used the comments to call for protests against the United States. He argued that while the pope may have been deceived into making his remarks, the words give the West an ?excuse for suppressing Muslims? by depicting them as terrorists.
Perhaps he should read the words below:
MOGADISHU, Somalia (Reuters) – Gunmen shot and killed an Italian nun at a children’s hospital in Mogadishu on Sunday in an attack that drew immediate speculation of links to Muslim anger over the pope’s recent remarks on Islam. A high-level Islamist source told Reuters the attack may well be linked to the controversy over Pope Benedict’s recent remarks about holy wars, which have been taken by many Muslims as an attempt to portray their religion as innately violent.
They are not peaceful people, they are murdering dogs. They are the true infidels guilty of killing innocents.
…if the average muslim does not speak out against the crimes committed against other’s in the name of Allah, what does that mean?
…either their religion isn’t that important to them, and they don’t feel bothered by it. That contradicts the general sense i get from muslims i know, who do rely on the islam for a sense of identity and culture. Ramadan and the friday prayers are part of many muslim’s lives, so it does play an important role…
…or they aren’t truthful about it’s importance due to peer pressure. Yet the fact they’re muslim affects their everyday life in this society. Whether they like it or not, being a muslim is how they’re recognized and judged…
…or they silently agree with the violence. The majority does not speak out against the ridiculous temper tantrums of the muslim clergy because they believe it is justified. I’m leaning towards this conclusion based on my own experiences, and the fact that too little is happening from inside the muslim community that speaks out against those who, they claim, are insane and not to be considered ‘real’ muslims…
…the number of insane and unreal muslims are growing by the day, and i suggest a calm, but sure and steady move to ensure that certain loopholes in this democratic society are no longer abused to further the muslim push for a global islamic state…
…declare certain immams persona non grata. Disallow having 2 passports. Deport those without the dutch nationality when convicted for specific crimes, and blacklist them. Organisations with ties to terrorists are outlawed, eventhough they did not break national laws. No expression of religious conviction in an official government environment. Close mosques that incite religious hatred and genophobia…
…OTOH, improve the quality of life in the middle east. Dethrone Afghan druglords and offer the farmers a sustainable means of living. With all the millions we spend on foreign aid, we can’t help Sudan and Jemen? Invest in Northern Africa and raise the standard of living so people are less inclined to emigrate. Educate the masses, altough that might infringe on local governments and prove difficult to do, and stop apologizing for something that did not happen…