I haven’t been gaining size on sub-maintenance cals, but I figured I would chime in and say that I have been pleased with my results on the diet this time around through 3 weeks. Did my usual Sunday morning body comp. measurements today, and despite the fact that I’ve only dropped a little over 1% bodyfat overall, I have retained all of my LBM (okay, okay, .4 lbs have been lost according to today’s measurements). I’ll take slow but steady progress any day, especially when starting at a relatively low BF% anyway.
Man you guys are depressing the shit out of me. I did the anabolic diet, STRICT for 4 weeks. I was fairly low calorie.I lost weight the first week and second weeks, and ended up gaining weight! It sucked arse! I’m scared to give it another try.
When is a good time to take glutamine on non-training days and do you take as much? I’m taking around 20 grams on training days. Also do you take any BCAA’s on non-training days. My thinking is not unless you do some strenous cardio. Correct me if I am wrong.
God knows why you guys want to use the same diet as David Boston. That sack is killing my fantasy team. Anybody know what Shaun Alexander eats, that guy’s a stud.
Yes, Shaun Alexander eats Minnesota Vikings, and he was hungry on Sunday!
I only take in 8-10g glutamine and no BCAAs on non-training days. Save your money.
I’m with Eric. I don’t see any point in doing BCAA’s and a load of glutamine on off-days unless you’re doing cardio pre-breakfast. I just got my ICE from Xtreme Formulations in the mail yesterday, and they sent me a kick-ass Renegade Training shirt (black, of course) which is almost as cool as my Testosterone shirt. On a side note, I am getting my first tattoo (the T-logo) on my shoulder next week. Depending on the cost, I may get T-Man along with it. Eric, I really enjoyed your article by the way. I have much respect that you’re getting the recognition you are…I’ve been writing articles for my company newsletter and we intend to have a web page up in December with my articles featured there. Hopefully I can get something going like yourself. Peace.
Thanks, buddy. I just submitted another one last week, so we’ll see where it gets me. The funny thing is that my double major is exercise and health promotion related, yet all I seem to want to do is write lately! Oh well, I guess that’s the consequence of growing up with a mother who taught English:)
Be sure to post the URL when your articles are up; I’d love to check them out.
Keep on truckin’, everyone. I’ll have some one month results to post on Friday. Take care.
The funniest thing about this diet is that when I’m huge and ripped, some kid is going to ask me how I got so big.
“Vegetables are anabolic”
I’ve been tiring of vegetables lately. I mean, 2kg of veggies just gets a little fatiguing. SO, I’m going to switch to “easier” greens for a bit. Can anyone think of why I can’t get 50% of my carbs from peas for a few days?
I’m not sure that peas have the same “oh man, I gotta’ crap really soon” effect as green beans, spinach, broccoli, and cauliflower! I wouldn’t lose sleep over it, though…
I don’t see a huge problem with it…I have been slacking on my green consumption a bit as of late in favor of some black/kidney beans.
Well, looks like I’ve got some reading to do thru this thread. Anyway, I got my blood lipids and glucose results the other day. I was at a low point in my diet and nutrition cycle and the amount of junk carbs in my diet has been way too high for a while now. Anyway after reading thru Lonnie’s “Something Fishy” article, some articles over at Mercola’s site and all the various talk about the importance of carb selection, I think it is time to really cut back on anything even resembling a starchy carb.
Oh, BTW, this thread is almost getting as long as the "Getting Ripped Support Group" threads. Which means that something is going right in my book.
I like to think that it was my charming wit and personality that made this thread so attractive (not to mention the eloquently-phrased intro:)…Oh yeah, the diet’s cool, too.
Yeah, our thread is all big and impressive so either we’re doing something right or we’re an interesting case study. Lata.
MBE: “Needs a water bottle refill since 1422.”
-Eric
PLUS, the diet is a little off-the-wall, so we like to brag about it
I’ve never really experienced the ‘mad shits’ everyone is talking about. Sure, I need to go twice a day now - but that’s not a surprise.
The only time this diet breaks down is if you accidentaly do some hard-core exercise in a day(outside your planned routine). A football game or wrestling can cause hella DOMS if you don’t up your carbs afterward. I threw in a power session last week (because HST doesn’t incorporate power movements) and the exertion required me to up the carbs for the next day.
Monty, let me know how the Ice works for you, I am very interested in adding bcaa to my diet, I have heard of great results.
Well, it’s only been five days but so far, so good. I take 6 scoops during workout, and I dropped all post-workout carbs in favor of whey isolate and a huge dose of glutamine. Strength is still improving every workout and I appear to be eating much less cals (2400 or so) than most that are on this diet. ICE actually tastes decent too. Kinda freaky because the powder is white, but when you mix it it turns blue. Great stuff.
Heya Anabolic animals. I have come to the conclusion that I need a carb-up day once every 4 days. I followed AD ruels M-F this week, however Friday evening I decided to order from Eastern Taco (This Mexican establishment owned by a Chinese family that turns out some very good and extremely cheap food). After a chicken taco, huge chicken burrito and a diet snapple, I was satiated. Saturday was a BIG carb up day. I had Pro Lab’s Lean Mass Matrix MRP for breakfast and then made these sick protein pancakes using whole wheat batter, apples, blueberries, and a couple scoops of GROW! (secret tip: if you then take some Vanilla Grow and mix it w/ a tiny bit of water you get an icing-like consistency, I spread that on top of the cakes, best breakfast ever). Anyhow, I felt sluggish during my Limping into Nov. Deadlift session since I had stupidly done too many pre-workout carbs. I did, however feel great several hours later, and still do this morning (No DOMS either). I have a lot of energy and my mental capacity seems very clear. So, once again restructuring this little project, I will do AD M-T taking Friday as a Carb up day and then every 4th day from there. My second issue has to do with cutting. On the first couple weeks of AD I was leaning out very nicely. I think that my progress is stalling now. For the last week I tried zig-zagging the cals (thanks John Roman for the protos) never going above 2500. I am currently 5’6, 174, about 12-13% bf. Any suggestions? Thanks.
MBE “Always liked Goofus better since 1986.”
-Eric
The best zig-zag plan I’ve seen is tailor-made for a three-week cut, but you can modify it as you wish. It was from fellow Husker Dr. Jeffrey Stout. Say your baseline is 2500. Start there your first day, and for the rest of the days of that week, subtract by 100/day (2400, 2300, etc). At the beginning of week two, go up again but lower than your baseline, so in the above example, 2400, then 2300, etc. Repeat for week three (2300, 2200, etc). There was a pretty good training and HIIT cycle to use with this diet…very similar to German Body Comp, only no rest between supersets, and it incorporated sprints in the morning, and moderate intensity cardio in the evening. It came from the very first issue of the now-defunct Pump magazine. LMK if you would like the specifics…I’m pretty sure I still have it somewhere.
Some 1 month (actually, 1 month + 2 days) results are promised:
LBM gain: 6.68 lbs.
FM gain: 2.32 lbs. (body fat increase from 8.8% to 9.7%)
Noticeable increases in upper quad girth, lats, and traps (although my back and traps seem to grow no matter what I do). If I can get my arms, lower quads, and calves to grow like this in the next few weeks, I’ll be golden. Strength increases have been decent, but nothing to brag about. All in all, I still feel pretty flat all the time and don’t appear that much bigger overall. I look a lot fatter than 9.7% because I’m carrying it all in my love handles and pec (quad skinfold is 3.5-4mm). I’m going to shoot for another 5 lb. gain and then start to cut back. Once I get to 7%, I’ll hit the Mag-10 for a little late-fall fun:)
Hope everyone is still doing well.