Agreed. I don’t think Obama deserved his anymore than Trump would deserve one.
Personally I’m still not sold on the idea of integrating with NK being a good idea. They’ve got a brainwashed borderline retarded population that is taught their leader is a literal god. Shits terrifying
You didn’t ask if it was going to 100% happen. You asked what Kim agreed to. He agreed to all that I mentioned. Yes, it’s vague but it’s a damn good start.
My argument at this point is I think he deserves the nobel peace prize. This is historic.
I guess my only disagreement is I think he deserves one.
Chances are, NK will go back to their old ways but just SK and NK meeting is a big deal and SK credits Trump for SOME of it.
Do you think he deserves it over president Xi? The only guy that had to be involved for this to all happen?
If the terms of the agreement in ANY WAY spoke to NK improving the way it treats it’s people, I might be inclined to see your side.
As it stands, we’re getting what? “Peace” with north Korea? Meaning the troops we weren’t sending in still aren’t sending it except now we’ll probably be providing financial aid?
I don’t see how the US benefits from this in any way tbh
That’s a tough one but I believe Trump gets some credit for pressuring China. Can they both get?
I don’t disagree with this premise(better not be sending financial aid, though) but SK has a chance at peace with NK. That’s something. And if NK actually denuclearizes, that’s good for everyone.
If that’s a thing? Sure. If it has to come down to one of them, I don’t see how Trump’s involvement could even appear to be as significant as Xi’s.
What does that look like? A minefield that isn’t going anywhere, 2 sets of people who have a snowballs chance in hell at integrating?
What actually changes for SK or the US if they sign a treaty?
Agreed, although it’s mostly good for the people who live within 10 miles of NKs facilities… Which is just more brainwashed NK people. Yay?
No, he didn’t. If you read legalese, “work towards” is completely different from “agreeing to”.
NK is officially committed to “peaceful reunification” with SK for the last 70 years FWIW.
You think someone should get a NPP for stepping into a trap the NorKs have been setting since the 1990s?
The NPP isn’t a participation trophy, snowflakes.
Meh, would Xi have done anything if not for Trump? Yes, Xi was HUGE in this process but Trump gets credit for putting pressure on him.
Japan? SK? They claimed they had missiles that could reach us. Who knows if that was true or not. Still, could be big.
Yes because the standards are so high for the NPP now, lol.
Sure he does. But Xi is the only “required actor” in this entire equation. Peace talks could have happened with or without Trump, with or without the pressure on China, etcetc. It could NOT have happened without Xi’s support.
Enough credit to get a NPP over the real hero that is Xi? Imo not by a mile
Are they actively and openly worried on any given day? Genuine question. Seems like people were either waiting for NK to do something dumb enough to kill themselves, or finally allow us to turn them into a parking lot.
What does this being a big deal look like to you? Are we now allowing brainwashed borderline retarded NK immigrants? Is SK (lawl)? Are we trading with a country with virtually no infrastructure for trade that treats it’s citizens like livestock? Probably not
It’ll be big for the American taxpayer ofc, when the aid check starts getting cut.
Of course they could’ve… But they didn’t… We’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I’m sure when KJU was firing missiles over them, they we’re a little concerned.
Actually denuclearizing NK.
What makes you think we are going to give aid to NK?
Last thing and then I need to get some work done.
If Trump is not harsh on NK going forward and nothing more than show, I will be the first one to bash him. KJU should not be trusted on his word nor a signed agreement alone and there needs to be immense pressure to make sure he follows through.
I was under the impression that China all but has full control of NK given NKs status with the rest of the world.
Agree to disagree works for me
Fair point
Which provides what value exactly? They won’t accidentally cherynobl (sp?) themselves?
History
I’m not bashing Trump at all for NK. Personally I think they should just be left alone, but I’m not sitting in the oval.
Just seems silly to me for people to talk about a Nobel Peace price for spending billions in tariffs with China to accomplish a fuzzy end goal when Xi was the only required party
But dude! We’ll be able to buy a Daewoo motors clone of a nicer labeled car for like $25.00.
And you would be correct but again, who pushed for it?
I just want the man to get some credit ha.
I think we can all agree that NK not having nukes to wave their dicks around with is a good thing.
Ha, while true at certain times, I don’t think we will.
I know you’re not bashing him, you’re a fair person. Personally, I agree with you. I think we should leave most other countries alone. Still, I want him to get the NPP because I’m petty and it will make far left liberals cry. The NPP is an absolute joke now.
Thank you…!
And I still hate.
(And no…I did not think that either President Obama…and certainly not Trump…should receive the NPP…)…
A Peace Prize for someone who constantly sews division and discord in his own Country with every-other Tweet and at every rally?
Trump did, you’ll find no dispute from me there
I think the middle ground between some credit and a NPP is pretty massive.
Absolutely I agree (good thing most for other people). It’s another thing entirely to say it’s worth the lost tariffs revenue
Guess only time will tell
I mean absolutely no offense when I say this (truly truly truly).
You, and people like you, are the single biggest problem with America.
Single biggest problem with America. LOL. Now you lost me.
I truly truly meant no offense when I said it. I acknowledge millions are that way.
Whenever someone wants something to happen purely to partisanly piss on someone’s parade, I can’t think of a single change to America that would result in more good