Alright ya’ll, I’m seeking some advice for a first time tren user (me!). I’ve written this up and want everybody’s take on it. FYI I’m going on a cruise June 6th-13th. I know the experts will say not to start until after the cruise but I will not listen! With that in mind, please take a look and give me your take.
Week 1
Test cyp 1000mg frontload
Equipoise 600mg frontload
Week 2-4
Test cyp 500mg
Equipoise 300mg
Week 5 Cruisin time
Test cyp 500mg (Right before I go)
Equipose 300mg (Right before I go)
Winstrol tabs 100mg/day (while I go)
Week 6
Test cyp 500mg
Tren 75mg/day
Winstrol tabs 100mg/day
Week 7-9
Test Propionate ???
Tren 75mg/day
Winstrol tabs 100mg/day
Week 10
Clomid 300 mg first day, 100 mg for two weeks, and then 50mg until ?
Questions:
Of course, how’s it look?
I’ve come to conclude from the forum that test therapy should be continued while on tren but I need to switch to a shorter-acting ester. If so, when should I start the propionate and at what dosages?
3)I keep hearing about Arimidex but really don’t know much about it. Do I need it or should I just grab some Nolvadex?
Get nolvadex. Arimidex will be overkill for this cycle and it can alter your cholesterol profile significantly to the bad.
Am i to understand you’re only using tren for the last bit (weeks 6/7/8/9)? You should try to run it for the duration of the cycle. Its a good drug. Its easy to sneak stuff wherever you happen to be going, i took my tren halfway across the country to visit my girlfriend at school and she had no idea what i was up to. You can be discrete with it on the cruise quite easily and the results you’ll get by running your tren throughout will be really good. Either that or wait till you get back from the cruise. Thats what i would do if it was my money i was dumping on a cycle. I try to make the most of them.
As for test, if you’re using Cyp, just run it until week 7. Do no injections in week 8 or week 9 and you should be ready to recover at the end of week 9. The test will slowly wind down over those two weeks so you shouldnt have to worry about finadick, or switching esters. This is how i ran my last cycle and it worked fine.
Clomid (again, nolvadex doesnt have the same side effects some people report) but you should use 50mg ed for at least 1 week following your two weeks at 100mg. You might want to run it for two weeks at 50mg ed, or decrease the dosage a bit in the 4th week of PCT. Have enough on hand to use for 4 weeks though.
Looks nice but, I’m still pretty new. The winny at the end will help to harden you up. I would just say have some nolva on hand incase through out and get one of the vets to tell you how much Hcg you should start on the 3rd week and run till a little past your cyle is over. Good luck with the gains and you better not be drinking on this cruise while taking any winny. Just wouldn’t be smart.
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Oh yeah, here are some stats. 5’8" 185lbs around 11%bf. I’ve done several cycles in the past. I really want to make this more of a cutting cycle and will adjust calories and cardiovascualr to do so. I also plan to take HCG starting the third week at around 250 i.u. Sat and Sun and continue till week 9. Also, I’ve never tried spot injections but was told that I could backload an isulin pin and do it that way. Will the tren even get through a 30 gauge pin? Or should I stick with like a 23 and go for quads and shoulders? Thanks again!
my opinion hasnt changed. wait until after the cruise. are you in a fucking race or something? jesus, spend all of that money and time and pain and for what. to waste a cycle on a cruise. am i the only one that thinks this guy is nuts?
All oil flows well going out of an insulin pin (tren is no exception). However, trying to draw up oil with an insulin pin is highly frustrating and silly (1mL can take about 10 minutes). I usually just rear load a weeks worth of insulin pins with a 22 gauge oil pipe. Works well for me. Dont be scared of site injecting, its not a big deal.
Good plan incorparating the HCG, it will make recovery much faster.
I’m with Drago. I spend way too much time and effort busting my ass disciplining myself with diet and training. I wouldn’t want to see half-ass gains from INTENTIONALLY fucking up a cycle. Sometimes things happen that are out of our control and our cycles get interupted.
I’m guessing you’re in a hurry to look good for this cruise. If that’s the case, you should have started sooner.
No, not in a race and am not worried about wasting my money. Who’s to say I won’t make use of the gym on the ship? And they have great buffets on the ship too. J/K!! Granted, I see everyone’s point, beleive me I do, but my mind is set. Of course I’m going to have a drink or two so yes Drago, I will heed your advice and not start the Winny until afterward. And I realize that tren is supposed to be the shit but I know myself and to stick myself every day for like 2 months is not going to happen. Not trying to be a pussy or anything but thats just me. I’ve never used EQ and was wondering about its synergistic properties with test? Is this a good call or what? Minus the cruise does this cycle look good or what?
Its your money man. Its a solid looking cycle. It could be improved by running the tren and winny throughout and probably just losing the EQ (i find it takes a fairly long time to start showing results). Winny will give you similar class 2 activity without the wait.
If you’re heart is set on running this through the cruise, go for it. Its your gear and your body. You wont hurt yourself by doing it during the cruise or anything, but your gains will be better if you wait. (I’m betting you wont end up spending too much time in the cargo hold lifting weights if you’re cruising through the bahamas or somewhere like that). Pluis, if getting cut is what you want, waiting till after the cruise where you can have total control over what you’re eating and when is the best thing to be doing. All you can eat buffets are good for bulking but can be quite detrimental to people on a cutting/hardening cycle, unless you are of very strong will!
I would start the tren earlier or from the beginning. If you’re dead set on bringing your gear on the cruise with you, let me give you some advice. Realize that your stuff will get X-rayed before you get on the ship. You will be going through Customs on the way back into the States (assuming you’re going to out of the country). Make sure to bring only what you’ll use on board. I’ve been on 8 cruises on the past 12 years and have never been too impressed with the gyms. Some of the the new ships have made great improvements, but all lack plates. Make sure you train legs the day before you leave because you sure won’t get a good leg workout while you’re onboard.
Thanks for the feedback Chotto. I’m not bringing anything onboard except for maybe the Winny tabs which are easily conceilable. Thats why I’ll take my T and EQ the day of departure. I’m not fooling myself into beleiving that the cruise’s gym will look like a Golds as I’ve been on a couple too. But I’m very good at making do and some of my best workouts come when theres a need to be creative. Who knows, maybe I’ll just round up a bunch of hotties and do some 1 and a quarter twat squats with them…
Hey Mass don’t apologize for laughing, I’m serious. They have nowhere to hide on a ship, except overboard. Thats why cruises are the best. Everybody’s there to have a good time so hooking up is easy. I’ll have them doing their “twat squats” by day two!
1st, the clomid at the end is off…
no LH no reason to take clomid, where is HCG?
Why lower the dose on 2-4 week? decrease the time between shots and eliminate week 4 as you have it and begin week 5 as week 4. just take the shots every 5 days instead of 7 to achieve this.
the prop at the end is going hurt… the tren with prop is a lot of stabs.
i still don’t like the idea of 8-10 week cycles. i would do a bulking cycle for 2 weeks the wait 3-4 weeks and do a anabolic stack for 2 weeks. very high dosages would be required, higher than you have them presently.
Actually drago, your right. Give me your address so I can send you my shit and you can put it to good use. If you don’t hurry though, I’m going to take all of it and mix in with some Coppertone and spread it all over my body for my cruise. I hear it has a 98% absorption rate when done like this and I will sprinkle the Winny tabs in with some Cheque drops and put it behind my ears. Does this sound good to you?