Plastics and Xenoestrogens

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Do they make something like a metal canteen that doesn’t conduct heat so well? Something that holds at least 24 oz. of coffee?[/quote]
I know Klean Kanteen definitely makes an insulated bottle, but I think the biggest is just 20oz.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
What do you guys think are the biggest contributors to xenoestrogens ?

Which plastics are the biggest culprits ? My guess might be plastic bottled water, since it’s so common. [/quote]
Yeah, I’d probably say plastic water bottles, especially if they’re dishwashed and repeatedly reused, and any plastic containers made to be microwaved - frozen dinners, veggies in steamer pouches (probably a big one, since people think they’re “being healthy”), single serving mac + cheese, etc.[/quote]

Is it any wonder many people say F- it and just live their life. The # of ways our bodies take on an assault these days is enough to make you crazy and just throw your hands up.

Hell, chlorine from shower water is supposedly pretty bad for you, flouride in the water or toothpaste, etc etc

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
All I know is that I’m going to err on the side of caution and start bringing my French press to the gym instead of filling up a Nalgene bottle with coffee and protein powder.

I DID just find a plastic container in my pantry marked “BPA free” but the fucking thing only holds 16oz. [/quote]

You could always look online for a steel, double wall insulated mug. You may have your work cut out for you finding a 24 oz one but they will be out there. I bought one for my hubby and it keeps things hot for hours. It was $24 but well worth it.

I just hate plastic, for most anything. It breaks, you can’t repair it. With food, it stains and holds the smell of whatever was in it last.

Just about all of my food is stored in either glass or ceramic, with rubber seals. A few things are stored in stainless. Most of my cookware is stainless. My “non-stick” cookware is cast iron.

But it has nothing to do with the health effects. Plastics just aren’t really durable or cleanable. And in the long run, the more durable materials actually cost less.

For that matter, hermetically sealed glass jars are usually cheaper than their equivalent plastic counterparts.

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Do they make something like a metal canteen that doesn’t conduct heat so well? Something that holds at least 24 oz. of coffee?[/quote]
I know Klean Kanteen definitely makes an insulated bottle, but I think the biggest is just 20oz.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
What do you guys think are the biggest contributors to xenoestrogens ?

Which plastics are the biggest culprits ? My guess might be plastic bottled water, since it’s so common. [/quote]
Yeah, I’d probably say plastic water bottles, especially if they’re dishwashed and repeatedly reused, and any plastic containers where the instructions say to microwave it - frozen dinners, veggies in steamer pouches (probably a big one, since people think they’re “being healthy”), single serving mac + cheese, etc.[/quote]

Have you noticed any differences in how you feel after going through all those efforts?

Meh, our stuff is made from PP (05) doesn’t contain BPA anyway. Also stable when microwaved and used in the dishwasher.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Do they make something like a metal canteen that doesn’t conduct heat so well? Something that holds at least 24 oz. of coffee?[/quote]
I know Klean Kanteen definitely makes an insulated bottle, but I think the biggest is just 20oz.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
What do you guys think are the biggest contributors to xenoestrogens ?

Which plastics are the biggest culprits ? My guess might be plastic bottled water, since it’s so common. [/quote]
Yeah, I’d probably say plastic water bottles, especially if they’re dishwashed and repeatedly reused, and any plastic containers where the instructions say to microwave it - frozen dinners, veggies in steamer pouches (probably a big one, since people think they’re “being healthy”), single serving mac + cheese, etc.[/quote]

Have you noticed any differences in how you feel after going through all those efforts?[/quote]

For me, I have noticed some pretty notable differences. Legs, hips, and pecs got leaner, I also felt better overall. My recovery was better. Drinking water from a glass bottle just tasted so much better, hell I think everything from a glass container tasted better.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Have you noticed any differences in how you feel after going through all those efforts?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure I’ve noticed reduced bodyfat in the pec area. I was never really prone to gyno-type fat storage, but now it’s even less of an issue.

Other than that, reducing exposure to xenoestrogens isn’t going to have a significantly noticeable effect like, say, increased Test might. It’s kinda the same reason I take Rez-V. I don’t see a difference when I take it vs when I don’t, but there’s enough literature out there that I’m personally convinced it’s worth taking (or avoiding, in the case of BPA/xenoestrogens).

My girlfriend, on the other hand, had severe uterine fibroids several years ago, finally resulting in a hysterectomy (the largest fibroid was roughly the size of the doctor’s head). BPA has been linked to fibroid growth and significantly reducing our daily BPA exposure is, I believe, a factor in avoiding a recurrence.

I bought a few Pellegrino glass bottles and just drink water out of those every day. I throw them in the dishwasher every so often. Even fits in the cup holder in the car…though you get some looks from other drivers because they think you’re drinking wine.

For jars, I buy peaches from Costco and save the jars for my protein shakes. The lids tend to wear down over time and need to be replaced. This is better that spaghetti sauce containers as there is no potent tomato smell lingering.

For coffee, there are plenty of metal options that will keep coffee hot. Starbucks sells some good ones (the lids are plastic, but hey…). When it does get too cool, I’ll pour some/all into a ceramic mug and nuke it for 30 secs or so, then pour it back into the travel mug.

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Meh, our stuff is made from PP (05) doesn’t contain BPA anyway. Also stable when microwaved and used in the dishwasher. [/quote]

It doesn’t matter, man. You’re in Egypt. lol

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Meh, our stuff is made from PP (05) doesn’t contain BPA anyway. Also stable when microwaved and used in the dishwasher. [/quote]

It doesn’t matter, man. You’re in Egypt. lol [/quote]

haha they might not care, we do have a conscience lol. Also we intend on exporting soon!

What do you guys think about most toothbrushes?

I’m not sure if they have BPA in them (I kind of assume they do because I have gotten one that said BPA free a couple times) but if you think about it, having a plastic toothbrush that has BPA (and whatever else) in your mouth for two minutes seems pretty bad. I have never really seen it mentioned though so I don’t know…

[quote]jonmb11 wrote:
What do you guys think about most toothbrushes?

I’m not sure if they have BPA in them (I kind of assume they do because I have gotten one that said BPA free a couple times) but if you think about it, having a plastic toothbrush that has BPA (and whatever else) in your mouth for two minutes seems pretty bad. I have never really seen it mentioned though so I don’t know…[/quote]

Well, that doesn’t mean all have it. Kind of like food products that boast low-fat or cholesterol free when they naturally don’t contain that stuff anyways, just a markeing tactic b/c they know people look for it.

that said, worth checking into

[quote]jonmb11 wrote:
What do you guys think about most toothbrushes?

I’m not sure if they have BPA in them (I kind of assume they do because I have gotten one that said BPA free a couple times) but if you think about it, having a plastic toothbrush that has BPA (and whatever else) in your mouth for two minutes seems pretty bad. I have never really seen it mentioned though so I don’t know…[/quote]

Yeah, but you’re not swallowing the contents of your mouth after brushing. That has to account for something.

I try not to think about this shit, should I be worried?

[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
I try not to think about this shit, should I be worried?[/quote]

Depends on how you feel about having a hand in things you CAN control.

[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
I try not to think about this shit, should I be worried?[/quote]

you tell me

[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
I avoid touching receipts because they have bpa.[/quote]
My gal does this, and then hands them to me. :frowning: BPA is absolutely a legit concern, but I file this particular trait under “Of all the BPA sources to worry about, this is way low on the list.”[/quote]

Hey, so okay, looks like I spoke too soon. Last month, the next county over from me actually outlawed BPA-coated receipts.

http://www.northshoreoflongisland.com/Articles-News-i-2013-01-10-94900.112114-sub18235.112114-Safer-Sales-Slip-Act-signed-for-Suffolk-County.html

Some research showed that “… people who reported working in retail industries had 30 percent more BPA in their bodies than the average U.S. adult, and 34 percent more BPA than other workers.”

As I said earlier, once you start looking for sources of BPA exposure in your daily life, it’s easy to get freaked out because it’s everywhere.

oh wow thanks you guys for making me not only paranoid but afraid of my health.

28 years of exposure, that fucking sucks!

Just came back from the gym and guess what? I used a plastic water bottle. I always knew plastic was shitty but this? Its a different thing when your hormones get messed with.

I worked in retail, granted the handling of receipts was quick and to the point, how much would it effect you?

Same goes for now, you go shopping, I instantly trash the receipt or keep it in a pocket.

I’ve used lunch boxes for years and years, my dad still does. Whats the problem with those? Dont ask me about what the labels were because those are long gone.

What about mouse for the PC? They’re plastic are they not? And the keyboard.

Also, my student accom has a fair bit of plastic in the shower, whats the effect of this? I have no clue about the manufacturing of these products.

I cant say I struggled to put on mass, I’ve never really bulked but from 170-ish to 220lbs, I cant be effected in a big way?

EDIT: Just re-read what I wrote. I’m not acting paranoid but I do not want this shit near me.

What do you use for a shaker cup?

Are bpa free blender bottles a bad choice?

What do you do with the supps you order? Do you transfer them to another container?

How are you supposed to do steroids, aren’t all syringes plastic?