[quote]Voluminous wrote:
…I care about human choice & emotional people tend to ruin the ability for humans to do so)
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hear hear
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fuck this thread pisses me off so much. [/quote]
That is the problem with the CJS , lack of rational [/quote]
Your projection is quite impressive.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fuck this thread pisses me off so much. [/quote]
That is the problem with the CJS , lack of rational [/quote]
Your projection is quite impressive. [/quote]
Jee thanks:)
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fuck this thread pisses me off so much. [/quote]
That is the problem with the CJS , lack of rational [/quote]
Your projection is quite impressive. [/quote]
Right, not wanting people to to killed in mass is irrational… You are a complete moron Pittbull.
Having a baby will be expensive, better to kill it. Next level retarded.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Gosbel from da Bokz of Pittttttbull:
Babies 1:23 - And yea unto the people science has told it was a unique human life at the moment of conception. However, for the convenience of some and my own fear of being shouted down by others in the community, I declare that it isn’t a person, but instead a leather belt, or a tree if you prefer, until some other arbitrary point where it becomes politically convenient of me to care beyond words about the child. For example when it is poor and I can abuse their poor station in order to try an pin a false narrative on right leaning folks. [/quote]
You will have to excuse me , I haven’t a clue what the fuck you are talking about ?
This is the hardest part of trying to discuss something with you , You try and put words in my mouth and then claim them to be false .
I guess you could win any debate that way ???
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No tricks are needed to beat you in this debate. All we need are facts, logic and reason and you lose. You may not have realized this yet, but you lost this one a long time ago.
Your flat wrong, and I think you know it, but your ego is preventing admitting it.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]hmm87 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
as systematic murder for convenience in a 1st world country.
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systematic murder for convenience?[/quote]
Jesus Christ dude really?
Yes, abortion is murder. Stop pretending people aren’t people. [/quote]
The Law agrees with me
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Does it? Why is Scott Peterson serving a life sentence for double murder then?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fuck this thread pisses me off so much. [/quote]
That is the problem with the CJS , lack of rational [/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fuck this thread pisses me off so much. [/quote]
That is the problem with the CJS , lack of rational [/quote]
Your projection is quite impressive. [/quote]
Right, not wanting people to to killed in mass is irrational… You are a complete moron Pittbull. [/quote]
well you USMC are stupid; foolish.
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YAWN:)
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
YAWN:)
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What, losing make you sleepy?
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
YAWN:)
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What, losing make you sleepy?[/quote]
I have lost nothing
Being out of bed too long makes me tired
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
YAWN:)
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What, losing make you sleepy?[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
YAWN:)
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What, losing make you sleepy?[/quote]
I have lost nothing
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Yeah, you lost this one pretty hard. It’s okay, I still like you. 
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
YAWN:)
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What, losing make you sleepy?[/quote]
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You pretty much know you won when people start bringing in completely unrelated shit and try to make it relate. Abortion?! Well the Palestinians, so there!
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
For such an aficionado of performing the act of potentially creating children; your stated opinion within the thread is odd. I wonder do you also advocate the non-usage of birth control & condoms; as they both also prevent a human being brought into being. I hazard a guess that you do not; nor does anyone else shouting from the rooftops about PP being so vile & disgusting for offering choice.
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Absolutely no rational person in this thread is advocating the prevention of creation of life. We are however advocating the cessation of ending that life once it is created.
I am all for people being allowed to choose if they want a child. However once they create a human being, which is what that fetus is, they have already made their choice. I believe people should have the choice to prevent a pregnancy same as you. I do not believe anyone has the right to end a human life which is what that “thing” with the beating heart that writhes in pain (because its nervous system has developed) when burned or tries to pull away when grasped before being torn from its mother and ripped apart is.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
For such an aficionado of performing the act of potentially creating children; your stated opinion within the thread is odd. I wonder do you also advocate the non-usage of birth control & condoms; as they both also prevent a human being brought into being. I hazard a guess that you do not; nor does anyone else shouting from the rooftops about PP being so vile & disgusting for offering choice.
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Absolutely no rational person in this thread is advocating the prevention of creation of life. We are however advocating the cessation of ending that life once it is created. [/quote]
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. The only other thing I’ll add is, at least for me, I simply want nature to be allowed to take its course.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]Voluminous wrote:
For such an aficionado of performing the act of potentially creating children; your stated opinion within the thread is odd. I wonder do you also advocate the non-usage of birth control & condoms; as they both also prevent a human being brought into being. I hazard a guess that you do not; nor does anyone else shouting from the rooftops about PP being so vile & disgusting for offering choice.
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Absolutely no rational person in this thread is advocating the prevention of creation of life. We are however advocating the cessation of ending that life once it is created.
I am all for people being allowed to choose if they want a child. However once they create a human being, which is what that fetus is, they have already made their choice. I believe people should have the choice to prevent a pregnancy same as you. I do not believe anyone has the right to end a human life which is what that “thing” with the beating heart that writhes in pain (because its nervous system has developed) when burned or tries to pull away when grasped before being torn from its mother and ripped apart is.[/quote]
Long time lurker on the site first time posting.
To get some perspective, the death of a human being is determined by the lack of brain activity. Thus medically and scientifically speaking the life a human being would happen when there is measured brain waves. Roughly around 8 weeks there is a heart beat, but that is not the definition of life if that is not the determination of death. At around 14 weeks the fetus starts moving to environmental stimuli, but these are reflexes. At around 20 weeks the Thalamus is completely formed, which is the relay center for the brain and there is brain waves. The brain waves are just in spurts and not a regular brain activity wave pattern. Regular brain waves happen around 25 weeks.
Considering a human is medically deceased when brain activity has ceased by that definition human life would happen at 20 or 25 weeks when there is brain activity. If you believe life happens when there is a heartbeat that is only an opinion and holds no water in actual reality when that is not the definition of death.
Abolishing abortions have been done in the past it didn’t turn out well. Women would go to extreme measures to terminate their pregnancy (drinking in excess, physical harm, clothes hangers, drugs, etc). Often those extremes would result in harm to the woman. Its a lot like drug use if someone has a desire to do drugs they are going to find a way to do them. In history that has also held true on this subject as well if a woman wants to end her pregnancy she will do that whether its legal or not. There are even stories of pregnant women in states where it is hard to get an abortion of them ordering the same drugs online and taking them. While I don’t agree with abortions, would I rather have them supervised and performed by a medical professional or have women go to extremes I would choose the former.