Clinical Trial of Embryonic Stem Cell-Based Therapy

http://www.geron.com/media/pressview.aspx?id=1229

Let’s hope this works out well!

I wonder if the rise in vampire pop culture (True Blood, Twilight) is a good metaphor…

Wow, so a cure for Alzheimer’s could be on the horizon? Imagine the potential here, being able to cure things like MS.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Wow, so a cure for Alzheimer’s could be on the horizon? Imagine the potential here, being able to cure things like MS.[/quote]

Not to mention the possible reversal of spinal cord injuries. People who have been trapped in wheelchairs for years could walk again.

Nothing vampirish about that, Sloth. But hey, if you have ethical objections, you are free to reject any treatment that results from this research. However, you do not have the right to tell a paraplegic that he or she must remain trapped in a wheelchair because of your personal convictions.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too.

“Soylent green, now with newer and fresher ingredients!” That should be their product jingle right there. Hey, we dig the crude and the vulgar now (see pedobear), so the consumer would love it.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.[/quote]

You don’t oppose evil only once it’s the popular and easy thing to do. The difficulties don’t concern me.

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.[/quote]

You don’t oppose evil only once it’s the popular and easy thing to do. The difficulties don’t concern me.[/quote]

But I do oppose evil. I’ve met people with MS and Azheimers and I’ve dealt with their families as well. I’ve been to my share of nursing homes. (BTW - Nursing homes suck.) I can think of few things that would be more evil than telling these people and their families “There is a potential cure out there that can both save your life and allow you to regain your lost function. Sorry, you can’t have it.”

I suggest you volunteer in a nursing home. It may not change your mind, but at least it will allow you to have a more informed opinion.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I suggest you volunteer in a nursing home. It may not change your mind, but at least it will allow you to have a more informed opinion.[/quote]

I just watched an elderly family member wither away from plueral mesothelioma. I watched him struggle to get out of his death bed, as doped as he was, agitated by the inability to draw enough oxygen. No, I haven’t shared this on any other threads, and won’t share any further details. I myself narrowly–and I do mean narrowly–survived a lethal condition. Nor am I now 100% free from this condition rearing it’s head again. And no, I’m not going into detail here, either. None of it’s relevant to the creation/destruction of human life for our cannibalistic ends.

In short, I’ve seen misery, pain, and felt the breath of the Reaper on the back of my own neck. Yet, I can and will oppose the creation of human life for our own consumption. Even if it would make us all sparkle in the sunlight and never grow old.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.[/quote]

You don’t oppose evil only once it’s the popular and easy thing to do. The difficulties don’t concern me.[/quote]

But I do oppose evil. I’ve met people with MS and Azheimers and I’ve dealt with their families as well. I’ve been to my share of nursing homes. (BTW - Nursing homes suck.) I can think of few things that would be more evil than telling these people and their families “There is a potential cure out there that can both save your life and allow you to regain your lost function. Sorry, you can’t have it.”

I suggest you volunteer in a nursing home. It may not change your mind, but at least it will allow you to have a more informed opinion.[/quote]

You still have to kill humans to do it.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.[/quote]

You don’t oppose evil only once it’s the popular and easy thing to do. The difficulties don’t concern me.[/quote]

But I do oppose evil. I’ve met people with MS and Azheimers and I’ve dealt with their families as well. I’ve been to my share of nursing homes. (BTW - Nursing homes suck.) I can think of few things that would be more evil than telling these people and their families “There is a potential cure out there that can both save your life and allow you to regain your lost function. Sorry, you can’t have it.”

I suggest you volunteer in a nursing home. It may not change your mind, but at least it will allow you to have a more informed opinion.[/quote]

You still have to kill humans to do it.[/quote]

So?

We kill human beings for less.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

Nothing vampirish about that…[/quote]

No, no, of course not. Maybe one day the human embryo recycling industry will cure that darn disease, “Old age.” I’d say it inflicts more people than any other malady.

The blood is the life.[/quote]

Like I said: if you don’t like it, don’t accept the treatment. Simple.[/quote]

Well, there’s always political recourse, too. [/quote]

Once Big Pharma gets a hold of these treatments, a few key political contributions and it’ll be a done deal. Money talks and bullshit walks, and there’s no such thing as a moral politician in either party.[/quote]

You don’t oppose evil only once it’s the popular and easy thing to do. The difficulties don’t concern me.[/quote]

But I do oppose evil. I’ve met people with MS and Azheimers and I’ve dealt with their families as well. I’ve been to my share of nursing homes. (BTW - Nursing homes suck.) I can think of few things that would be more evil than telling these people and their families “There is a potential cure out there that can both save your life and allow you to regain your lost function. Sorry, you can’t have it.”

I suggest you volunteer in a nursing home. It may not change your mind, but at least it will allow you to have a more informed opinion.[/quote]

You still have to kill humans to do it.[/quote]

This assumes that we know exactly when human life begins. I do not know the exact moment when human life begins. Anyone who does possesses special mental powers that I do not possess.

So we are going to butcher a baby because it may be able to cure things? Next maybe we can experiment on Jews.

[quote]John S. wrote:
So we are going to butcher a baby because it may be able to cure things? Next maybe we can experiment on Jews.[/quote]

Why?

Right now you have two social experiments running that cost a generous amount of lifes.

I´d day we declare a “War on Alzheimers” and cavalierly accept collateral damage.

It is for the greater good after all.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:
So we are going to butcher a baby because it may be able to cure things? Next maybe we can experiment on Jews.[/quote]

Why?

Right now you have two social experiments running that cost a generous amount of lifes.

IÃ?´d day we declare a “War on Alzheimers” and cavalierly accept collateral damage.

It is for the greater good after all.

[/quote]

You do harvest humans.

[quote]John S. wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:
So we are going to butcher a baby because it may be able to cure things? Next maybe we can experiment on Jews.[/quote]

Why?

Right now you have two social experiments running that cost a generous amount of lifes.

IÃ??Ã?´d day we declare a “War on Alzheimers” and cavalierly accept collateral damage.

It is for the greater good after all.

[/quote]

You do harvest humans.[/quote]

If by “you”, you mean Austria, we most certainly do.

If you die here and have been halfway healthy, we will gut you like a fish before we send the rest back.

Why?