[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I’d take any excuse I could get to go into the women’s room[/quote]
You might want to rethink that course of action at Planet Fitness unless you are into the fatties and like to swim in rolls of lard.
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true
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
you’d think this would be the most logical choice…idk why everyone doesn’t think that way
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.
[quote]stokes1989 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
you’d think this would be the most logical choice…idk why everyone doesn’t think that way[/quote]
Well, with that way of thinking why not euthanise people past a certain age? And if they’re disabled? If they’re welfare cheque claimants or alcoholics, drug users.
Be careful about that way of thinking, you can rationalise it down to anything goes. Its what Hitler loved about his job.
Just about everybody seems to be Monday morning quarterbacking this one. WE know that she died in the end, so it’s awful easy to say "Oh he should’ve gone in there and given aid. For all he knew, the person who told him she was having problems was exaggerating, confused, panicked, stupid, etc. If he goes in there, and it turns out she’s actually just having a minor asthma attack for example, maybe he gets sued by some naked lady stepping out of the shower. Maybe he gets fired too…actually, he probably gets fired. Let’s be honest here. Maybe he isn’t sure of the laws regarding this situation. Maybe he’s afraid to get sued by the company.
Also, why is this HIS fault alone? What about the member who informed him of her situation in the first place? What about the FEMALE EMPLOYEE who later went in there to try and help? Working at a gym doesn’t automatically qualify one to save a person’s life in the event of emergency.
This had better get laughed out of court. Well, solemnly laughed out of court that is. Now the lawsuit against PF for apparently not having an AED in there, that I can see having some merit, since that is directly relevant to this situation, and may have saved her life. But anything against him personally is ridiculous.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Just about everybody seems to be Monday morning quarterbacking this one. WE know that she died in the end, so it’s awful easy to say "Oh he should’ve gone in there and given aid. For all he knew, the person who told him she was having problems was exaggerating, confused, panicked, stupid, etc. If he goes in there, and it turns out she’s actually just having a minor asthma attack for example, maybe he gets sued by some naked lady stepping out of the shower. Maybe he gets fired too…actually, he probably gets fired. Let’s be honest here. Maybe he isn’t sure of the laws regarding this situation. Maybe he’s afraid to get sued by the company.
Also, why is this HIS fault alone? What about the member who informed him of her situation in the first place? What about the FEMALE EMPLOYEE who later went in there to try and help? Working at a gym doesn’t automatically qualify one to save a person’s life in the event of emergency.
This had better get laughed out of court. Well, solemnly laughed out of court that is. Now the lawsuit against PF for apparently not having an AED in there, that I can see having some merit, since that is directly relevant to this situation, and may have saved her life. But anything against him personally is ridiculous. [/quote]
Every workplace has a qualified first aid giver, its the law. Unless it is different in the US.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.[/quote]
Wow. I can’t believe you actually believe this. Seems like tough talk to me.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Just about everybody seems to be Monday morning quarterbacking this one. WE know that she died in the end, so it’s awful easy to say "Oh he should’ve gone in there and given aid. For all he knew, the person who told him she was having problems was exaggerating, confused, panicked, stupid, etc. If he goes in there, and it turns out she’s actually just having a minor asthma attack for example, maybe he gets sued by some naked lady stepping out of the shower. Maybe he gets fired too…actually, he probably gets fired. Let’s be honest here. Maybe he isn’t sure of the laws regarding this situation. Maybe he’s afraid to get sued by the company.
Also, why is this HIS fault alone? What about the member who informed him of her situation in the first place? What about the FEMALE EMPLOYEE who later went in there to try and help? Working at a gym doesn’t automatically qualify one to save a person’s life in the event of emergency.
This had better get laughed out of court. Well, solemnly laughed out of court that is. Now the lawsuit against PF for apparently not having an AED in there, that I can see having some merit, since that is directly relevant to this situation, and may have saved her life. But anything against him personally is ridiculous. [/quote]
From an admittedly short search on Google I found that AEDs are not required in gyms and only 3% of facilities actually have them. The facts here are that no one is required to provide aid to someone having a life threatening event. A CPR certification has no obligatory clause attached to it. If AEDs are required in this specific state, then PF is going to lose a lawsuit, but otherwise I cannot see how anyone is liable for this woman’s death.
It’s a sad story, but sometimes no one is at fault when people die. Hopefully once the grief settles this suit will be dropped. As I said before, one has to be extremely mindful of their own wellbeing when administering aid. Blaming this kid is shameful.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
[quote]stokes1989 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
you’d think this would be the most logical choice…idk why everyone doesn’t think that way[/quote]
Well, with that way of thinking why not euthanise people past a certain age? And if they’re disabled? If they’re welfare cheque claimants or alcoholics, drug users.
Be careful about that way of thinking, you can rationalise it down to anything goes. Its what Hitler loved about his job.[/quote]
So not helping someone because you could get sued and ruin your life is equivalent to Hitler’s way of rationalizing? Give me a break.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.[/quote]
Wow. I can’t believe you actually believe this. Seems like tough talk to me.
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Oh you can’t believe that I take personal responsibility for myself and don’t expect anyone to put their neck out or go out of their way for me? Explain how that is tough talk. It is just what I believe.
Sure, I will call 911 or notify authorities, but I in no way want to get involved in someone elses’ issue unless it is a close friend or relative. Good Samaritan laws or not the courts make too many decisions that are wildly insane for me to risk my way of life.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.[/quote]
Wow. I can’t believe you actually believe this. Seems like tough talk to me.
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Oh you can’t believe that I take personal responsibility for myself and don’t expect anyone to put their neck out or go out of their way for me? Explain how that is tough talk. It is just what I believe.
Sure, I will call 911 or notify authorities, but I in no way want to get involved in someone elses’ issue unless it is a close friend or relative. Good Samaritan laws or not the courts make too many decisions that are wildly insane for me to risk my way of life.[/quote]
I was more referring to your lack of delusion of your importance to the world. It’s amazing to me that someone could hold their life’s value in such low regard. I understand entirely why you don’t think anyone would jump in and save you, however. Many people are inclined to project their behavior onto others. If you wouldn’t ever help someone out, then you are likely to believe no one would help you out.
One can only be sued for giving aid if they don’t follow proper protocol. You are free to look up any time someone administering aid has been successfully sued–they were always doing something wrong. If one is properly trained and has assessed the risk to be low and they don’t administer care then they’re kind of a jerkoff. Honestly, what’s the point of having a CPR cert if you don’t plan to use it?
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.[/quote]
Wow. I can’t believe you actually believe this. Seems like tough talk to me.
[/quote]
Oh you can’t believe that I take personal responsibility for myself and don’t expect anyone to put their neck out or go out of their way for me? Explain how that is tough talk. It is just what I believe.
Sure, I will call 911 or notify authorities, but I in no way want to get involved in someone elses’ issue unless it is a close friend or relative. Good Samaritan laws or not the courts make too many decisions that are wildly insane for me to risk my way of life.[/quote]
I was more referring to your lack of delusion of your importance to the world. It’s amazing to me that someone could hold their life’s value in such low regard. I understand entirely why you don’t think anyone would jump in and save you, however. Many people are inclined to project their behavior onto others. If you wouldn’t ever help someone out, then you are likely to believe no one would help you out.
One can only be sued for giving aid if they don’t follow proper protocol. You are free to look up any time someone administering aid has been successfully sued–they were always doing something wrong. If one is properly trained and has assessed the risk to be low and they don’t administer care then they’re kind of a jerkoff. Honestly, what’s the point of having a CPR cert if you don’t plan to use it?[/quote]
I do value my life, but I am not under delusions like some people who think the world will stop spinning if they die. It is not that I believe no one would help; I just do not expect them to help or think they are bad people or jerkoffs for not helping. Nice analysis Dr. Phil.
Have you ever tried to help someone in a high risk scenario or attempted to give CPR under duress? Things go wrong and shit happens. Take your textbook analysis somewhere else. It isn’t a dummie there unconscious needing help in a controlled environment with no pressure or adrenaline running. In a society where you can sue and win for spilling hot coffee on your crotch or biting pickles too hot, I don’t trust the court system to not fuck me if given the chance. My family has money and is well to do. So, you can bet your ass I would be getting sued because people suck. This is just the reality of the world we live in.
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Just about everybody seems to be Monday morning quarterbacking this one. WE know that she died in the end, so it’s awful easy to say "Oh he should’ve gone in there and given aid. For all he knew, the person who told him she was having problems was exaggerating, confused, panicked, stupid, etc. If he goes in there, and it turns out she’s actually just having a minor asthma attack for example, maybe he gets sued by some naked lady stepping out of the shower. Maybe he gets fired too…actually, he probably gets fired. Let’s be honest here. Maybe he isn’t sure of the laws regarding this situation. Maybe he’s afraid to get sued by the company.
Also, why is this HIS fault alone? What about the member who informed him of her situation in the first place? What about the FEMALE EMPLOYEE who later went in there to try and help? Working at a gym doesn’t automatically qualify one to save a person’s life in the event of emergency.
This had better get laughed out of court. Well, solemnly laughed out of court that is. Now the lawsuit against PF for apparently not having an AED in there, that I can see having some merit, since that is directly relevant to this situation, and may have saved her life. But anything against him personally is ridiculous. [/quote]
From an admittedly short search on Google I found that AEDs are not required in gyms and only 3% of facilities actually have them. The facts here are that no one is required to provide aid to someone having a life threatening event. A CPR certification has no obligatory clause attached to it. If AEDs are required in this specific state, then PF is going to lose a lawsuit, but otherwise I cannot see how anyone is liable for this woman’s death.
It’s a sad story, but sometimes no one is at fault when people die. Hopefully once the grief settles this suit will be dropped. As I said before, one has to be extremely mindful of their own wellbeing when administering aid. Blaming this kid is shameful.
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Ah, I was going off what a previous poster said about AEDs being required in gyms, so if those weren’t even required there…there is absolutely no reason for a lawsuit here, based on the info presented in the article.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]CroatianRage wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]The Anchor wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
So if you were dying and unconcious in a populated area, you wouldn’t want to be saved because “the world is overpopulated as is.”???[/quote]
Correct because I don’t have delusions about my importance to this world and don’t EXPECT anyone to help me.[/quote]
Wow. I can’t believe you actually believe this. Seems like tough talk to me.
[/quote]
Oh you can’t believe that I take personal responsibility for myself and don’t expect anyone to put their neck out or go out of their way for me? Explain how that is tough talk. It is just what I believe.
Sure, I will call 911 or notify authorities, but I in no way want to get involved in someone elses’ issue unless it is a close friend or relative. Good Samaritan laws or not the courts make too many decisions that are wildly insane for me to risk my way of life.[/quote]
I was more referring to your lack of delusion of your importance to the world. It’s amazing to me that someone could hold their life’s value in such low regard. I understand entirely why you don’t think anyone would jump in and save you, however. Many people are inclined to project their behavior onto others. If you wouldn’t ever help someone out, then you are likely to believe no one would help you out.
One can only be sued for giving aid if they don’t follow proper protocol. You are free to look up any time someone administering aid has been successfully sued–they were always doing something wrong. If one is properly trained and has assessed the risk to be low and they don’t administer care then they’re kind of a jerkoff. Honestly, what’s the point of having a CPR cert if you don’t plan to use it?[/quote]
I do value my life, but I am not under delusions like some people who think the world will stop spinning if they die. It is not that I believe no one would help; I just do not expect them to help or think they are bad people or jerkoffs for not helping. Nice analysis Dr. Phil.
Have you ever tried to help someone in a high risk scenario or attempted to give CPR under duress? Things go wrong and shit happens. Take your textbook analysis somewhere else. It isn’t a dummie there unconscious needing help in a controlled environment with no pressure or adrenaline running. In a society where you can sue and win for spilling hot coffee on your crotch or biting pickles too hot, I don’t trust the court system to not fuck me if given the chance. My family has money and is well to do. So, you can bet your ass I would be getting sued because people suck. This is just the reality of the world we live in.
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So, in a nutshell, you don’t expect people to help because you wouldn’t. That’s what I said. I can also expertly analyze how defensive you’ve become over something that wasn’t insulting.
I still think you’re faking this whole lack of delusional thought thing. Either that or you haven’t reflected about it enough. If you honestly think the world is not better with you in it as opposed to without, then I pity you–whatever that’s worth.
It wasn’t within his pay grade.
This is a prime example of why the woman didn’t receive help in the first place. If, “we,” didn’t sue each other over every lil fucking thing people would be more willing to help. Had this guy gone in and saved her, but broke her rib, she could of sued him (it’s happened before and unless there is some Good Samaritan law now, which I feel like is the case, it would happen again).
Either way the dude is a pussy for just standing by.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If some jackass sees me passed out from too much Hennessy in a strip club and breaks my rib trying to “resuscitate me”, I might be suing.[/quote]
Case and point…
Thanks for making my point before, but after I did Prof!
Having read from those in the know I wouldn’t help anyone I wasn’t directly related to either. Physicians recommend not to and don’t themselves that I know of. There are far too many ambulance chasers waiting to sue you.
If this fellow did help he would have been sued. Planet Fitness are cowards for firing him.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
[quote]stokes1989 wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.[/quote]
you’d think this would be the most logical choice…idk why everyone doesn’t think that way[/quote]
Well, with that way of thinking why not euthanise people past a certain age? And if they’re disabled? If they’re welfare cheque claimants or alcoholics, drug users.
Be careful about that way of thinking, you can rationalise it down to anything goes. Its what Hitler loved about his job.[/quote]
So not helping someone because you could get sued and ruin your life is equivalent to Hitler’s way of rationalizing? Give me a break. [/quote]
oh wow are you Dark ninjas other account? Same lack of reading skills.
I responded to a guy who says the world is overpopulated and we should let them die because they’re fat/lazy.