It’s probably because it was the only good joke in the movie.
[quote]Nards wrote:
It’s probably because it was the only good joke in the movie.[/quote]
Does it also sadden you that this was not Hulk Hogan’s worst movie? That there were actually movies with legitimately less payoff than Suburban Commando?
EDIT- oops, blaze already said it:
Except they’d slap on some sex offender charges and sue him for blablabla, and his life would have been effectively ruined.
damned if you do, damned if you dont.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
There is no reason a person should be FORCED to save someone else’s life. Especially not by way of law. That is ridiculous.
I think the issue here was not that he didn’t want to help, and if he had helped, and something had gone wrong…he would have been protected by this: Good Samaritan law - Wikipedia
However, entering a lady’s bathroom/change room was the game changer. The U.S. is a shit pit when it comes to stuff like this. The good Samaritan law only applies to the action of saving a person’s life, it says nothing about location. He probably figured they would have gotten him one way or another.[/quote]
I, personally am not talking about obligation through law, I’m kind of fed up with all these laws, I just wish he would have recognised it as the right thing to do and realised that the proper course of action would have been to at least check on her.
The gender issue of the bathroom is insanity, under any reasonable state of mind, something like that should not be a concern when centred around a situation like this. It seems the U.S. can be entirely too dependent on it’s laws and sometimes an over-encumbrance may lead to something like this, which should be immediately and justly rectified by legal authorities.
He shouldn’t have to live under this much fear of a rulebook when faced with this amount of cost to an individual. I guess this won’t ever really be stamped out, and there will always be some fucking thing where people are too in fear of being flanked by some legal loop to actually be a “good Samaritan”, and I’m very much glad that nobody in the country in which I reside, will have to deal with as much bullshit legal hounding as someone in a mirrored situation over there. I guess this is just what the country has now and it’s too engrained to really scrub out all of it’s stains, which depresses me.[/quote]
He probably would have been fine to go into the ladies changing room in the event of an emergency. But there are other glaring problems here.
The first question would be is why nobody there was trained in CPR? (no bystanders knew CPR I mean my god it’s a fucking app on a smartphone now). It does say in a different article that a female employee showed up and found the patients pulse to be weak but nothing about CPR being done.
Next, why was there no AED on site (gyms are required to have these)?
I did see a reference earlier in the thread to the length of time for PD to arrive on scene. A quick look on Google reveals that this area is served by a volunteer fire department and a volunteer ambulance. Many times it’s difficult to get people to respond.
Above all though there may have been nothing they could do. Not many 20 year olds have a cardiac event without some other extenuating circumstances (genetic defect), but it is possible to still have a cardiac event.
I believe this discussion should stop immediately…Planet Fitness is a Judgement Free Zone
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
he might not have been able to save her or do anything anyway, who is to say 911 would have reached her in time[/quote]
But does that justify not really doing anything at all? He might not have been able to save her, but he also might have, he let his job security get in the way of his humanity and now he’ll have to live with that.[/quote]
again it comes down to a choice, as well as fear of lawful retribution. with all of the rediculous claims that people are making in court these days (and winning one might add) it’s no wonder people think twice when it comes to administering aide to someone who may turn around and try to take everything you have spent you entire life working for away from you.
If I had to go into a Planet Fitness changing room I would be scared too.
Oh the horrors of soccer moms and their rotund bellies. Flappy tits on grannies and other things.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If I had to go into a Planet Fitness changing room I would be scared too.
Flappy tits on grannies and other things.[/quote]
Like ziplock bags half filled with water …
And he cellulite, oh the cellulite … 200 pounds of chewed bubblegum
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
The gender issue of the bathroom is insanity, under any reasonable state of mind, something like that should not be a concern when centred around a situation like this. It seems the U.S. can be entirely too dependent on it’s laws and sometimes an over-encumbrance may lead to something like this, which should be immediately and justly rectified by legal authorities.
He shouldn’t have to live under this much fear of a rulebook when faced with this amount of cost to an individual. I guess this won’t ever really be stamped out, and there will always be some fucking thing where people are too in fear of being flanked by some legal loop to actually be a “good Samaritan”[/quote]
You know, this wasn’t really a problem until the 90s. Previous to that you always had a few fringe wacko lawsuits but pretty much everybody told the people bringing them to get lost. The 90s saw a big shift in how the civil courts were viewed.
I’d take any excuse I could get to go into the women’s room
[quote]Stiglitz wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If I had to go into a Planet Fitness changing room I would be scared too.
Flappy tits on grannies and other things.[/quote]
Like ziplock bags half filled with water …
And he cellulite, oh the cellulite … 200 pounds of chewed bubblegum
[/quote]
Oh that’s nasty.
a woman is passed out in the ladies restroom
am i being punked or pranked
where is the guy with the video phone
i will be on utube
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I’d take any excuse I could get to go into the women’s room[/quote]
You might want to rethink that course of action at Planet Fitness unless you are into the fatties and like to swim in rolls of lard.
Personally, I would have advised him to do nothing. Courts, lawyers, and people suck complete ass these days. This will get tossed out more than likely because he is not bound to help by any law. Now, if he had tried to help and she ended up dying, living, or have deficits, he would be fucked in court if she sued. This is how messed up our system is. I would have let her die as well. Went back to the desk or office after calling 911 as it is not my problem. This may sound cold, but I am sorry my life and well being trumps some random strangers.
My mom is a physician and she is even reluctant to help anyone in dire need (that isn’t family) when shes not on the clock or at the hospital. Due to outside of that arena you are not covered under malpractice insurance. People try to sue over anything to get a buck and in turn ruin it for people who might actually need help.
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I’d take any excuse I could get to go into the women’s room[/quote]
You might want to rethink that course of action at Planet Fitness unless you are into the fatties and like to swim in rolls of lard.
Personally, I would have advised him to do nothing. Courts, lawyers, and people suck complete ass these days. This will get tossed out more than likely because he is not bound to help by any law. Now, if he had tried to help and she ended up dying, living, or have deficits, he would be fucked in court if she sued. This is how messed up our system is. I would have let her die as well. Went back to the desk or office after calling 911 as it is not my problem. This may sound cold, but I am sorry my life and well being trumps some random strangers.
My mom is a physician and she is even reluctant to help anyone in dire need (that isn’t family) when shes not on the clock or at the hospital. Due to outside of that arena you are not covered under malpractice insurance. People try to sue over anything to get a buck and in turn ruin it for people who might actually need help.[/quote]
thats not entirely true though. if you come to assist someone and they are unconscious and you attempt to administer aide, you are protect from legal retaliation by the good samaratin laws mentioned earlier in this thread. However, if the person is conscious you have to verbally ask if you may administer aide, and if they say no then you can’t administer aide (at least until they pass out, then it becomes implied consent and you can legally begin to administer aide without the possible of legal retaliation). And as stated earlier in this thread, you have to ocnsider your own safety first, ie face masks when performing mouth to mouth, and gloves when fluids are present. I personally keep a mask and a set of gloves both in my cars glove box, and my gym bag (i deak with some clients who are borderline having those kind of emergencies at my gym)
If the guy didn’t know CPR, what was he supposed to do besides call for help?
It sounds like Planet Fitness is at fault for not even making sure their own employees had a plan of action should something like that happen.
He panicked as a result.
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.
If some jackass sees me passed out from too much Hennessy in a strip club and breaks my rib trying to “resuscitate me”, I might be suing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If some jackass sees me passed out from too much Hennessy in a strip club and breaks my rib trying to “resuscitate me”, I might be suing.[/quote]
hahaah truth…but i don’t think that being passed out drunk would qualify for someone to administer aide and be protected by good samaratin laws
[quote]stokes1989 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If some jackass sees me passed out from too much Hennessy in a strip club and breaks my rib trying to “resuscitate me”, I might be suing.[/quote]
hahaah truth…but i don’t think that being passed out drunk would qualify for someone to administer aide and be protected by good samaratin laws[/quote]
I don’t think many people could break Luke Cage’s ribs unless they used an iron bar
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I think we’ll need the good Samaritan laws in the UK soon. Not sure of particular cases but I have read about people being sued for helping others.
What type of people are living that would sue their rescuers? It makes you want to euthanize them.[/quote]
Or just let them die. The world is overpopulated as is.