[quote]rainjack wrote:
michaelv wrote:
My answer: I wouldn’t buy any of the three originally mentioned cars.
Metro-sexuals are naturally scared of MUSCLE - whether of the protein type, or automotive type.[/quote]
Sorry rainjack, didn’t mean to scare you when I screamed by you on my Ninja.
[quote]dond1esel wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Toyota Supra…
Its in a league of its own (in a way). Put about 2k of parts into it and it will have about 500hp to the flywheel. Also, its not “Hello, I’m Mr. Businessman” and its not, “Hello, I’m Fonzy” 
But it is, “Hello, I’m a marketing major at UC-Riverside”. Yarr.[/quote]
LOL That got a good chuckle out of me this morning. Actually, my supervisor and her husband have a 98 Supra that they race down in NJ. Not my cup of tea, but with the upgraded turbo in it, one fast mofo.
[quote]Moriarty wrote:
Now it makes perfect sense RJ. I wouldn’t have guessed with all your tough talk you were a metro. You’re taken by the Mustang GT because it lets you pretend you’re in a muscle car without having to deal with all that scary MUSCLE. Fair enough.[/quote]
LOL - does your head hurt after all the thinking you had to do to come up with this?
When have I EVER said I was anti-vette?
I believe it’s you that is in love with the nazi-mobile - now you want to change teams?
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
[quote]michaelv wrote:
Oh, grow a pair. People are conversing about closely related car topics. Threads evolve, especially by the fourth page.
My answer: I wouldn’t buy any of the three originally mentioned cars. [/quote]
grow a pair?!?!?! WTF! For pointing out that the thread hadn’t made reference to the original question, I need to grow a pair? A pair of what?
This is really a special moment! Really!
[quote]Moriarty wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Buick might come back with the Grand National:
http://mnmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944
Just a thought
Exactly. Through this entire thread the GNX has been on the back of my mind. One of my all time favorites; that car just looks mean.
This new one kinda looks like a cavalier though, doesn’t it?[/quote]
I dunno. I guess I would have to see some pics from other angles.
[quote]dond1esel wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Toyota Supra…
Its in a league of its own (in a way). Put about 2k of parts into it and it will have about 500hp to the flywheel. Also, its not “Hello, I’m Mr. Businessman” and its not, “Hello, I’m Fonzy”
But it is, “Hello, I’m a marketing major at UC-Riverside”. Yarr.[/quote]
Explain. Not trying to be an a**, but I don’t get it.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Moriarty wrote:
Now it makes perfect sense RJ. I wouldn’t have guessed with all your tough talk you were a metro. You’re taken by the Mustang GT because it lets you pretend you’re in a muscle car without having to deal with all that scary MUSCLE. Fair enough.
LOL - does your head hurt after all the thinking you had to do to come up with this?
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Nah, you have to admit that was an easy place to take the scared of muscle thing. Didn’t require much thought at all.
You mad?
You didn’t. I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine since you continually try to claim I’m “anti-American Muscle” when in my very first post on this thread I said the Vette was “one of the best values in driving period”.
See what I mean? I’m “switching teams” by mentioning the Vette even though in my very first post I told the thread starter he should look at the Vette. In fact I mentioned the Vette before you did.
Oh, and I am also absolutely in love with the 3-Series as well. Absolutely beautiful cars. The M3 puts out 333HP from a silky 3.2 liter inline-6 that will scream from 0-60 half a second faster than your GT right off the lot. Couple of thousand in mods and you’re looking at Vette acceleration numbers. I could go on and on, but I’ll let Car & Driver do the talking:
“The BMW 333-hp M3, a legendary car that’s always on our 10Best list. It’s so good that in 1997 we named it the Best-Handling Car, period?money no object.”
Wow.
The M3 and the Z06 are just so legendary that if you’re thinking about dropping 30k - 40k on a car I don’t see how you could deny yourself a look at either one of these. Why would you get a Mustang GT when these cars are available?
Anyways, Kuz:
You’ve got, what, 10 people on here telling you to take a look at a used Z06. You going to at least give it a test drive?
Come on, guys. We are all T Men here. We all need a group hug.
Get a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, fast in straight line, handles like a fing beast, and the brembo brakes do a good job of stopping it…
I am a little partial to mopar since I drive a HEMI powered ram, but I do not feel as though they are doing the classic charger justice with the 2006 model. First of all it should be 2 door and the body design has more in common with the magnum than the charger of old. Having said that I would wait one more year for ford to work out all the design flaws and then buy a cobra. I have to give ford credit for the retro style. Even I would love to own a new Mustang. Good luck deciding.
[quote]weaksauce wrote:
Get a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, fast in straight line, handles like a fing beast, and the brembo brakes do a good job of stopping it…[/quote]
Those are nice cars and great for the winter (AWD). I was thinking about getting one, but not sure if I’m a “4 door” type of guy
[quote]Moriarty wrote:
I could go on and on, but I’ll let Car & Driver do the talking:
“The BMW 333-hp M3, a legendary car that’s always on our 10Best list. It’s so good that in 1997 we named it the Best-Handling Car, period?money no object.”
[/quote]
I don’t understand this. I’ve driven a 97’ 3, and in terms of pure handling I don’t see how it even compares with the Porsche 944 Turbo (which I currently own). Does it put out more power? Of course, but in terms of pure handling both auto trend and many other high end luxury sport car magazines have listed either the Porsche 944 or the 959 (if you haven’t heard of it, it’s because the 959 is illegal in the U.S.) as the best handling sports cars of all time.
That being said, while there are 10 people telling him to get the Z06, becuase it is track proven, the new cobra sound absolutely devestating, and of course no once can back up its performance because no one has driven it yet. Wait and test drive both, but if the Cobra can run (or possibley outrun as many are prediciting), i think it’d be a better choice picking the cobra.
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Buick might come back with the Grand National:
http://mnmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944
Just a thought :)[/quote]
that is the same body as the GTO, remember that GM owns Pontiac and Holden and Buick.
It will be a shock if buick produces the GNX and doubt it would have more power then the stock vette. laters pk
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Toyota Supra…
Its in a league of its own (in a way). Put about 2k of parts into it and it will have about 500hp to the flywheel. Also, its not “Hello, I’m Mr. Businessman” and its not, “Hello, I’m Fonzy”
[/quote]
what kind of cheap mods are you talking about? a turbo, and how much tuning of that turbo would you have to do. Realize that it takes a lot of work to make a turbo car reliable. you need to map the computer as well as internal engine components to get 500 at the wheels. oh and if you want to make it driveable you need to change the suspension set up. laters pk
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
“Hello, I’m Mr. Businessman” and its not, “Hello, I’m Fonzy”
[/quote]
what wrong with looking successful as far as career goes (i hate wearing suits because they don’t fit well) or looking like the coolest guy in the neighborhood (i wish there were more stand up guys like fonzy). I think we all wish we were both of those. laters pk
[quote]michaelv wrote:
Moriarty wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Buick might come back with the Grand National:
http://mnmuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=944
Just a thought
Exactly. Through this entire thread the GNX has been on the back of my mind. One of my all time favorites; that car just looks mean.
This new one kinda looks like a cavalier though, doesn’t it?
Am I the only one that thinks a big, powerful engine surrounded by a car that sucks is somewhat one-dimensional?[/quote]
Have you driven any of the new american cars? GTO, Mustang GT, 300C SRT8, CTS-V. i’d like to know what you think of them considering that their performance numbers in every aspect are equal or better then their foreign competitors. my times have changed. Laters pk
[quote]weaksauce wrote:
Get a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, fast in straight line, handles like a fing beast, and the brembo brakes do a good job of stopping it…[/quote]
i was also looking at this and the Evolution MR. nice cars just different in character. i like the four wheel drive. i would lean to the MR because it’s a little bigger and i think handles a little better. laters pk
[quote]rich44 wrote:
I am a little partial to mopar since I drive a HEMI powered ram, but I do not feel as though they are doing the classic charger justice with the 2006 model. First of all it should be 2 door and the body design has more in common with the magnum than the charger of old. Having said that I would wait one more year for ford to work out all the design flaws and then buy a cobra. I have to give ford credit for the retro style. Even I would love to own a new Mustang. Good luck deciding.[/quote]
i think they are coming out with a 2 door charger, the reason they styled it like that was for nascar. The body has to look similar as the racecars need. laters pk
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
what kind of cheap mods are you talking about? a turbo, and how much tuning of that turbo would you have to do. Realize that it takes a lot of work to make a turbo car reliable. you need to map the computer as well as internal engine components to get 500 at the wheels. oh and if you want to make it driveable you need to change the suspension set up. laters pk[/quote]
I was talking about a Supra that came stock with twin turbos. Here is the website where I got my info:
I guess it isn’t $2k, its more like $1400 bucks. Also, I meant crankshaft, not flywheel. My bad. Also, there are Supras with well over 600HP with stock internals.
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
“Hello, I’m Mr. Businessman” and its not, “Hello, I’m Fonzy”
what wrong with looking successful as far as career goes (i hate wearing suits because they don’t fit well) or looking like the coolest guy in the neighborhood (i wish there were more stand up guys like fonzy). I think we all wish we were both of those. laters pk[/quote]
There is nothing wrong with either of those. I’m just saying with the Supra (which, by the way are VERY rare around my area) is in a “place” of its own. There is a city thats 20 minutes from where I live and about 90% of them are either Jaguar, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, or Lexus. Nothing wrong with them at all, but unless there is some customizing to them, they don’t impress me much.
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
pkradgreek wrote:
what kind of cheap mods are you talking about? a turbo, and how much tuning of that turbo would you have to do. Realize that it takes a lot of work to make a turbo car reliable. you need to map the computer as well as internal engine components to get 500 at the wheels. oh and if you want to make it driveable you need to change the suspension set up. laters pk
I was talking about a Supra that came stock with twin turbos. Here is the website where I got my info:
I guess it isn’t $2k, its more like $1400 bucks. Also, I meant crankshaft, not flywheel. My bad. Also, there are Supras with well over 600HP with stock internals. [/quote]
a quote from the website “We would recommend the purchase of a downpipe (they are all equal in regards to performance from brand-to-brand) and after market cat-back exhaust (all our Supra exhausts are cat-back). These two combined will free up the exhaust restrictions of a turbo car significantly, help spool up the turbos quicker with the elimination of the pre and main cat and add couple lbs of boost. These mods will yield approximately 45-55HP alone and have your car running right around 13-15 psi in cooler weather.”
that is not smog legal.
they do offer cat systems but they don’t specify the power with a proper cat system or the fact that you would need to remap the computer.
anyone can turn up the boost in a turbo car and put free flowing exhaust to get more power, whether the car runs smoothly is a different story. I’ve seen beautiful hooked up supras and their owners have put in way more then a few thousand to get them working properly like a stock car can. i love the aftermarket but you need to know how to put everything together to get a fine ride as if it were from the factory. laters pk