And you are funny man…
People do all kinds of strange things when they are confronted with a tragedy they can’t process. Like I said, watch the whole video, it’s heartbreaking.
I find it helpful not to jump to conclusions before I have all of the facts. What we know thus far is based upon a video from social media that was made by a biased individual who narrates with her version of the facts. The video only shows the “after”. It doesn’t show the entire interaction or the shooting. I understand that more information has come out since the lady’s video that tends to cast a more favorable light on the police officer. I have not seen it yet. But, without all of the facts, all I can be sure of thus far is that it is unfortunate that someone lost their life. Everybody needs to slow down.
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I agree, that is not a natural reaction, nor is it how people react who are in shock. She seemed far more calculating than any normal person would be in such a circumstance.
How much time have the two of you spent around people in shock?
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Plenty, my background is heaped in witnessing tragic circumstances and being available to help those people who have been in shock from car accidents to actual physical violence. No one knows from watching a video but it would be my guess that this woman was not a shock victim. She was far too cold and calculating.
Just so I’m clear on where you’re coming from, you have some anecdotal experience with people in shock, correct? Not professional experiences?
Not looking to argue, I’m just curious.
Without going into detail, as I have managed to keep my personal life apart from T Nation for about 13 years, I do have an extensive background dealing with such things over a long period of time.
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Then, if you don’t mind, would you inform us of how she “should” have acted?
As I said earlier everyone is different. But, I have never seen or heard of anyone who had just witnessed a loved one killed in a violent act behave with such calmness. I have also been made aware that she immediately sent the video to social media which seems to be an obvious attempt to gain publicity. How does someone act when in shock? There can be a number of responses, denial, anger, disorientation sometimes actually fleeing the scene in an attempt to put physical distance between themselves and the tragedy. Some experts would say this is a psychological attempt to make what just happened go away.
Again, this is just one mans observation from a short video clip.
Here is my take. Her fiance was just shot 2 feet away from her in the same car as herself and their daughter after he (from what she has said) complied with the officer’s orders. The officer who just shot him is standing 3 feet away with his gun still drawn and pointed in the vehicle with her and her daughter. She is still terrified for her own life, her daughter’s and watching a loved one die next to her. I can’t imagine that she, or anyone, is equipped to process any of this in a matter of seconds. She was in flight mode.
I don’t think her first reaction was to pull out her phone and start filming him dying. She went live on Facebook. Likely, she was already starting to do so when the shooting happened because I doubt that the officer who just shot her fiance for reaching for his wallet wouldn’t shoot her for reaching for her phone just moments after when he is even more on edge.
This is an assumption on your part isn’t it?
Not my assumption, it’s what a witness has said happened. If you think she isn’t credible go ahead and finish this sentence : “She can’t be trusted because…”
This looks like murder 2 to me.
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Tell me you are kidding.
She is involved, her boyfriend was killed. She may very well be trying to get back at the Police Officer through a false statement. This is not uncommon. I would not trust her word over the word of the Police Officer. As yet however we don’t know if the Police Officer has said the same thing, he may have. But then again if a Police Officer orders you to not move why are you reaching for anything? If the boyfriend had come up with a gun how fast would the officer have had to react in order to preserve his own life?
We all need to be careful drawing conclusions from a video created by the girl friend of the man who was shot.
One more point, did she just take out her phone and start filming after her boyfriend was shot, or did she film the entire event then after the event click it back and re-film?
Then again maybe she has it spot on…we just don’t know until a full investigation is completed.
It was a live stream to Facebook. The above video was filmed in real time.
Yes, it was filmed in real time but I wonder if she was filming (not live streaming) BEFORE that. Just wondering not accusing.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with this case…but I do like the quote.
Right, and I’m not ready to send the officer down the river just yet (although my opinion tends to lean toward this being a colossal fuck-up by the officer) but my responses have been in regards to why she appears calm in a nightmarish situation.