Phelps' Diet

[quote]radovan wrote:
ecto214, your summary? your thoughts?

what im wondering is why phelps needs so much cholesterol? seems like a lot. and, whens this guy go to sleep? an energy drink after supper?
weird.

i wholly digress that eating “clean” would do anything different for his performance. i also disagree that clean calories are more filling WHEN COMPARED TO what he eats now.

the sad part about the information that has come out about phelps diet is a few people that dont lift or exercise at all that are glued to “must see t.v.”

every night are going to think that this diet is ok for some people in the general population. an even narrower group will think that this is an ok diet while doing what they normally do (nothing).

phelps eats that much and then wins gold medals all day. who cares. good for him.[/quote]

It seems like most folks think those 1000 cal ‘energy drinks’ are probably protein shakes or something similar, makes more sense than 1000cal of fruity, carbonated caffeine before bed.

It wouldn’t be possible to eat clean 12K calories a day. All he cares about is ingesting as many carbs as possible. He’s not trying to build muscle.

[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
lixy wrote: No doubt, the man pushes the human limits to their maximum, but how he can stomach that much food in three sittings is questionable.

Why? Because you can’t eat a lot? Your experience is everyone’s experience? [/quote]

It’s precisely because I eat a lot that I questioned the “three sittings” claim. For one thing, I bet he snacks at the pool.

Phelps isn’t different. He’s a freak of nature.

I’ll believe it when I hear it out of his own mouth. Until then, I’ll take the press’ word with a big grain of salt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7562840.stm

more info here and the stupid chiming in of so called experts

[quote]MaximusB wrote: I would be curious to see how his performance would improve if he ate quality calories instead of the proposed shit that is listed. I also highly doubt he would be able to down 12k calories per day if he did eat clean.

Clean foods are so filling, I would be shocked if he could down half his caloric intake. But hey, he has about a zillion more gold medals than I, so what do I know. [/quote]

Exactly.

You people act like these athletes reached their success by accident. Often there is a method to the madness, even if it is not obvious to outsiders.

[quote]Wayland wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7562840.stm

more info here and the stupid chiming in of so called experts [/quote]

LOL at that article.

Um… How many more gold medals will Phelps need to win before these people shut the fuck up about how he should eat?

I⿿ll buy into the 12,000 to 15, 000 kCal per day⿦

I have a 12 year old son that like Michael Phelps has ADHD. One thing about ADHD sufferers is their EXTREMELY high metabolic rate.

My twelve year old, for example is on a high calorie diet by doctors orders. We force him to eat calorie dense food (mostly carbs) and in the evening I give him a weight gainer.

His total calories are around 3000 kCal/day. He weighs 82#, up two pounds from last month :wink:. Mind you he is supposed to be growing like a weed at this stage and no matter how much or what he eats he is only growing vertically.

I donâ¿¿t think there is anything mentioned on this thread that will convince me otherwise.

Michael Phelps 12,000kCal/day…sounds about right!!

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Stength4life wrote:
The Mighty Stu wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
no way he eats that much. Think about it, you have to wait 30-60 mins after eating to get in the pool.

:smiley: j/k

A-HOLE! I just spit cottage cheese all over my laptop! -lol

S

You would eat cottage cheese

All means to an end my friend, means to an end :slight_smile:

S
[/quote]

No dude I was just joking. I probably eat more cottage cheese than you. In fact, I think I am going to start a thread to see who eats the most.

i loled.

Serius there are guys like this one http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/Ronniecoleman.jpg

that used to weight 330 lbs take lots more steroids than phelps could imagine and have x 10 the muscularity.

Yet the dude in the picture which hapens to be 8 times olympia claimed to eat 9k max 10k calories off conetest in mass periods and grow up.

For the record swimming is an aerobic exercise , thus low intense thus low energy consuption. Understand that like all aerobic activities a body undapts or hits platue in the energy consuption , thus someone who swims for a month might burn 500 calories an hour and one that swims for 10 years 200.

You really need not to beleve all this media hype , hes one of the best swimers with the advantage been from u.s thus never geting doping control which means geting the medals.
Ofc this doesnt justify 12k calories , rather that u.s and china can avoid dopoing control at their will.

For instance both thorp and hookemband are been invistaged for been into balco client list so phelps plays alone atm.

Its as superhuman as was joiner , jonshson , carl luis and jones before the doping sclandals.

Thing is jonsonon not been from u.s was cought luis didnt till he admited the use of steroids years after he retired and jones was enever caught from doping control but rather than company espionage , an employ of balco gave the thq, ,the liquid testosterone she were using.

Add all the new pgi1 pgi2 untracebable growth factors , HGh, gene therapies and u have the perfect athelete.

In any case there are bodybuilders or sumo wreslers that weight twice as phelps with x5 the muscles and they get x10 the steroids he gets and they dont consume more than 6-7k calories on average.

One final note , for readers of tnation , beleving that is posible a world class champion to eat tons of pasta , sausages , fried potatoes and pizzas as dinner in a contest period you must be out of your mind and not giving a single thought to what you read.

This guy must havent eat a single slice of pizza for years , neither fried potatoes and all this post are full of bs just so they justify the unthikable, one guy taking 8 medals like there is in a local swim fest with sponsor the pizza hut, gimme a break.

But i forgot all superhumans comes from u.s , i mean batman , spiderman captain america , go figure.

Next think to claim is that phelps can breath fire or somehting and you guys beleve it .

[quote]etaco wrote:
If he’s actually at 10k per day (even ocasionally) then I’ve gotta say his digestive abilities are almost as impressive as his athletic abilities. How the hell can he eat near that many and still spend 5 hours in the water at high intensity? I know it’s not that uncommon among the most elite endurance guys like the TDF riders, but still…[/quote]

Doesn’t he know he will cramp if he gets in the water after eating?

No doubt he eats a ton but I do not have any faith in the accuracy of the article. The media gets everything wrong in these cases because they play up the odd and sensational aspects.

I once read an article on scallop divers that said they eat 10,000 calories a day. I don’t know how accurate that was either but there is no doubt that swimming hard for hours a day needs many more calories than sitting in front of a computer most of the day and spending an hour in the gym.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I would be curious to see how his performance would improve if he ate quality calories instead of the proposed shit that is listed. I also highly doubt he would be able to down 12k calories per day if he did eat clean. Clean foods are so filling, I would be shocked if he could down half his caloric intake. But hey, he has about a zillion more gold medals than I, so what do I know. [/quote]

The whole concept of clean foods is flawed. Clean foods are just less calorically dense than dirty foods. There is nothing wrong with a fat laden sausage if you burn the calories but we just are not active enough in our society.

I am not including artificial crap in my above statement.

[quote]topoulo wrote:

But i forgot all superhumans comes from u.s , i mean batman , spiderman captain america , go figure.

Next think to claim is that phelps can breath fire or somehting and you guys beleve it .[/quote]

Not sure what you are talking about. All our guys are tested as are all other world class athletes. Being from the US does not exempt him from testing.

[quote]topoulo wrote:
i loled.

Serius there are guys like this one http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/Ronniecoleman.jpg

that used to weight 330 lbs take lots more steroids than phelps could imagine and have x 10 the muscularity.

Yet the dude in the picture which hapens to be 8 times olympia claimed to eat 9k max 10k calories off conetest in mass periods and grow up.

For the record swimming is an aerobic exercise , thus low intense thus low energy consuption. Understand that like all aerobic activities a body undapts or hits platue in the energy consuption , thus someone who swims for a month might burn 500 calories an hour and one that swims for 10 years 200.

You really need not to beleve all this media hype , hes one of the best swimers with the advantage been from u.s thus never geting doping control which means geting the medals.
Ofc this doesnt justify 12k calories , rather that u.s and china can avoid dopoing control at their will.

For instance both thorp and hookemband are been invistaged for been into balco client list so phelps plays alone atm.

Its as superhuman as was joiner , jonshson , carl luis and jones before the doping sclandals.

Thing is jonsonon not been from u.s was cought luis didnt till he admited the use of steroids years after he retired and jones was enever caught from doping control but rather than company espionage , an employ of balco gave the thq, ,the liquid testosterone she were using.

Add all the new pgi1 pgi2 untracebable growth factors , HGh, gene therapies and u have the perfect athelete.

In any case there are bodybuilders or sumo wreslers that weight twice as phelps with x5 the muscles and they get x10 the steroids he gets and they dont consume more than 6-7k calories on average.

One final note , for readers of tnation , beleving that is posible a world class champion to eat tons of pasta , sausages , fried potatoes and pizzas as dinner in a contest period you must be out of your mind and not giving a single thought to what you read.

This guy must havent eat a single slice of pizza for years , neither fried potatoes and all this post are full of bs just so they justify the unthikable, one guy taking 8 medals like there is in a local swim fest with sponsor the pizza hut, gimme a break.

But i forgot all superhumans comes from u.s , i mean batman , spiderman captain america , go figure.

Next think to claim is that phelps can breath fire or somehting and you guys beleve it .[/quote]

This post simply MUST be nominated for some sort of award.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
topoulo wrote:
i loled.

Serius there are guys like this one http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/Ronniecoleman.jpg

that used to weight 330 lbs take lots more steroids than phelps could imagine and have x 10 the muscularity.

Yet the dude in the picture which hapens to be 8 times olympia claimed to eat 9k max 10k calories off conetest in mass periods and grow up.

For the record swimming is an aerobic exercise , thus low intense thus low energy consuption. Understand that like all aerobic activities a body undapts or hits platue in the energy consuption , thus someone who swims for a month might burn 500 calories an hour and one that swims for 10 years 200.

You really need not to beleve all this media hype , hes one of the best swimers with the advantage been from u.s thus never geting doping control which means geting the medals.
Ofc this doesnt justify 12k calories , rather that u.s and china can avoid dopoing control at their will.

For instance both thorp and hookemband are been invistaged for been into balco client list so phelps plays alone atm.

Its as superhuman as was joiner , jonshson , carl luis and jones before the doping sclandals.

Thing is jonsonon not been from u.s was cought luis didnt till he admited the use of steroids years after he retired and jones was enever caught from doping control but rather than company espionage , an employ of balco gave the thq, ,the liquid testosterone she were using.

Add all the new pgi1 pgi2 untracebable growth factors , HGh, gene therapies and u have the perfect athelete.

In any case there are bodybuilders or sumo wreslers that weight twice as phelps with x5 the muscles and they get x10 the steroids he gets and they dont consume more than 6-7k calories on average.

One final note , for readers of tnation , beleving that is posible a world class champion to eat tons of pasta , sausages , fried potatoes and pizzas as dinner in a contest period you must be out of your mind and not giving a single thought to what you read.

This guy must havent eat a single slice of pizza for years , neither fried potatoes and all this post are full of bs just so they justify the unthikable, one guy taking 8 medals like there is in a local swim fest with sponsor the pizza hut, gimme a break.

But i forgot all superhumans comes from u.s , i mean batman , spiderman captain america , go figure.

Next think to claim is that phelps can breath fire or somehting and you guys beleve it .

This post simply MUST be nominated for some sort of award.
[/quote]

Yeah, maybe the most FULL OF SHIT ASININE post on the olympics award.

I stopped reading the damn thing when topuolo wrote this:

True, if you were casually taking a dip in the pool.

However, if you are training to break WORLD RECORDS this is not the case.

Don’t fool yourself in believing that Tyson Gay or Usain Bolt are training to break word records by jogging at slow steady state for hours on end…

[quote]topoulo wrote:
i loled.

Serius there are guys like this one http://graysmatter.codivation.com/content/binary/Ronniecoleman.jpg

that used to weight 330 lbs take lots more steroids than phelps could imagine and have x 10 the muscularity.

Yet the dude in the picture which hapens to be 8 times olympia claimed to eat 9k max 10k calories off conetest in mass periods and grow up.

For the record swimming is an aerobic exercise , thus low intense thus low energy consuption. Understand that like all aerobic activities a body undapts or hits platue in the energy consuption , thus someone who swims for a month might burn 500 calories an hour and one that swims for 10 years 200.

You really need not to beleve all this media hype , hes one of the best swimers with the advantage been from u.s thus never geting doping control which means geting the medals.
Ofc this doesnt justify 12k calories , rather that u.s and china can avoid dopoing control at their will.

For instance both thorp and hookemband are been invistaged for been into balco client list so phelps plays alone atm.

Its as superhuman as was joiner , jonshson , carl luis and jones before the doping sclandals.

Thing is jonsonon not been from u.s was cought luis didnt till he admited the use of steroids years after he retired and jones was enever caught from doping control but rather than company espionage , an employ of balco gave the thq, ,the liquid testosterone she were using.

Add all the new pgi1 pgi2 untracebable growth factors , HGh, gene therapies and u have the perfect athelete.

In any case there are bodybuilders or sumo wreslers that weight twice as phelps with x5 the muscles and they get x10 the steroids he gets and they dont consume more than 6-7k calories on average.

One final note , for readers of tnation , beleving that is posible a world class champion to eat tons of pasta , sausages , fried potatoes and pizzas as dinner in a contest period you must be out of your mind and not giving a single thought to what you read.

This guy must havent eat a single slice of pizza for years , neither fried potatoes and all this post are full of bs just so they justify the unthikable, one guy taking 8 medals like there is in a local swim fest with sponsor the pizza hut, gimme a break.

But i forgot all superhumans comes from u.s , i mean batman , spiderman captain america , go figure.

Next think to claim is that phelps can breath fire or somehting and you guys beleve it .[/quote]

wtf who is this mfer?

I can easily believe this.

Koybayashi the japanese champion power eater eats a crazy diet and is ripped to the bone, he just trains it off with monster weight and cardio sessions.

Also don’t forget you can probably count on one hand people in the world with his genetics.

I suppose the reason why he has to eat not so clean is just to get the calories in. I wouldn’t even begin to question his diet considering he’s won 8 golds and broken several. His coaches/nutritionists know more than all the posters above.

This isnt that news worthy. For the average person in America who thinks that they should eat 2000 but actually eat at least another 500-1000 calories aday over what they are supposed to. People are just astounded by the quantity I guess.

But for elite athletes this is nothing. Ask a elite marathon runner, Olympic sprinter, or probodybuilder what there diet is. Its is high calorie (8-10kcals daily)

There are only two things that surprise me

  1. How unclean he eats? Tons of mayo, chocolate chips, fried onions? I can not believe his dietician recommends this. I know it is difficult to eat 10kcals a day but you would think for someone at his level would eat clean. You can eat 10000 clean calories daily

  2. Only 3 meals daily? Why not space them out? That seems counterproductive going high to low energy all day. I would assume that you would want constant energy. It is difficult to eat while training but other athletes (and other swimmers) do it all the time. Eat smaller meals would make more sense to me

thats my 2 cents

All of you ranting about his food being unclean keep in mind that “eating clean” is very relative to people who aren’t doing hours of aerobic exercise on a daily basis.

For swimmers, runners, etc. eating clean takes on a very different meaning. These athletes take in these calories for no reason other than to quickly burn them off.

[quote]supabeast wrote:
All of you ranting about his food being unclean keep in mind that “eating clean” is very relative to people who aren’t doing hours of aerobic exercise on a daily basis.

For swimmers, runners, etc. eating clean takes on a very different meaning. These athletes take in these calories for no reason other than to quickly burn them off. [/quote]

But you would have to imagine that sweet potatoes are better for an athlete than powdered sugar. At that level, you need to be perfect in all aspects of the sport