Did you do a mini blood test? What is your TT/E2/prolactin?
Water weight is usually a high E2 issue but nipples now that is over range E2 and prolactin and your only path to gyno…
You can not get real Gyno without your E2 and prolactin over range for an extended period of time. You need to spend some money on blood tests and not more drugs.
If you are hypogonadal then drop back to 100mg/wk and nothing else. If you are just cycling PCT and get back to naddy because your body does not like this shit or your sources are crap.
HTH
I didn’t get the tests, no. Even just those few run into the hundreds here. I’m opting for going back to natural. I’m hoping if I give it six months it’ll be like my body never went through any of this and I can start back on the Test E nice and slow.
shmikey if I remember right you are about 41 years old. In my book that makes you worldly smart. You are no longer some kid in his 30’s with visions of grandeur. I question the quality of your sources. Have you considered finding a good TRT doctor? They are out there. It is sad this forum does not allow us to share them.
In a last ditch, throw-everything-at the-wall before-I go-cold-turkey, attempt to get over this hump I took another quarter of anastrozole today. That’d be 3/4g this week. I’ve got to say the uncomfortable sweaty moody water retention has eased off considerably. Not sure about libido but my dick doesn’t feel numb and my balls don’t feel tiny, soft and painful. I could be onto a winner here. I was always so conservative with anastrozole thinking I’d swing too far towards low E2.
Crashing your E2 with anastrozole can be easy go slow and only up your dose .25 at a time. Give it several days to work.
With out a blood test you are just guessing so be careful.
If you do crash your E2 it is not like your dick is going to fall off. Your joints will pop and ache your mood will suck but that is about it.
If you feel you have crashed your E2. Stop all anastrozole and give yourself a big injection of T.
T peaks in ~2 days and it will make a slug of E2 which will peak ~3-4 days and BAM no more crashed E2.
I’ve skim read this thread so apologies if I’m repeating anything that’s already been said.
The label for Sustanon is utter tosh fella.
I’m also in the UK and I’m on legit Dr prescribed TRT through a private physician.
I could have Test E ons scriot however its f’ing expensive so we (agreed with physician) use Sustanon as its only about £4.50 an ampoule from the pharmacy with a private script.
I use 1/4 an ampoule every 3 days. Just draw and ampoule into 4 separate syringes then swap to a pin needle when I need it.
Smooths out the 4 Esther’s in the Sustanon just fine and keeps e2 in check.
I did go to an eod protocal at one point but thats a long story and debate about hematocrit that doesn’t need to happen on your thread…
Once thing to be aware of is you are doing bloods and thats just a snapshot- you need to if you’re injecting on even a once weekly schedule consider that the difference between peak and trough levels is huge. Also your e2 levels lag out of phase with the test levels so as your test starts to drop the e2 is rising as its aromstased (converted by enzymes from Test onto E2).
The higher your peak T level the more you will aromatase- so breaking into smaller more frequent jabs can have a hugely different result for the same quantity of T.
The prop ester in Sustanon really dictates you want to be pinning it at most e3d- ideally eod in smaller quantities.
140mg sus per week puts me right at the top of normal test levels and still in range e2.
I think this might explain what happened to me. I split my first, post-PCT 250mg ampoule over the course of around 4 days. All was fine until around two weeks later I lost my libido and noticed water retention. It must have been the lag. Only thing is, upon injecting more…I just felt like I was doubling down on the high E2. And I did split that over about a week. Maybe not the e3d I should have followed but still pretty slow. For the first two years using Sustanon I didn’t notice any negative E2 effects but now my body seems to be extremely prone to aromatising no matter how I manage it. Still, I’m going to take a long break then come back onto a e3d schedule.
To be honest if you’re taking 250mg across 4 days your dose is a cycle and not trt and you’re getting e2 issues as you’re running massively supra physiological test levels. Splitting that up isn’t gonna stop that completely.
250mg across 4 days you’re not far off 500mg a week there. You (as in you not everyone), clearly need an ai on that level of test.
Okay. That’s not what I was going for (not that I knew what I was going for - when I started I’d just go to any pharmacy in Mexico and they’d give me a shot in arse and I’d do that every week to three weeks).
So instead of stopping altogether - I’m going to try a quarter of Test E every 3 days. Hope it balances out after my high doses the other week and a bit of AI for a week or two then hopefully that moderate dose wont need an AI after a couple of weeks.
I have a flight to Colombia booked for Thursday and still rests on how I feel come Wednesday as to whether I take it or lose it ha
Yeah I have 250mg ampoules of Test E so I’ll follow the same schedule as you I guess it just might take a longer time to reach steady state because of the esters - it doesn’t have the quick releasing esters that Sustanon has.
Are you sure your bottle does not say 250mg/mL? That is the standard concentration for TE. Not the volume of liquid in the bottle. The bottles are usually 1 mL, 5mL, or 10mL. I did get a 15mL bottle of T cyp once during covid.
i told you guys this dude has zero clue what he is talking about. i told him way up top what to do and he talks in circles, he’s a fucking troll that all of you are falling for. Stop trying to help this moron!!! Hey idiot take your mask off you cant get covid thru a computer clown !!!
The correct way to write that is you have 1mL bottles or syringe filled with 250mg/mL of TE.
So 1/2 of that syringe would be 125mg. That is a very good TRT level of TE. To make your T level more even only do 1/4 of the syringe on Monday and 1/4 on Thursday.
Keep doing that for 22 day so you reach Steady State and go get a mini blood test to see where everything is. The mini blood test should have TT/FT/E2/SHGB/HCT with that data you can make a educated protocol adjustment. TRT really is that easy.
