If I remember correctly, the print out I got from the doctor said ‘<92’. Does that make sense? You’d think of all the people,n you could trust an experienced endocrinologist to know what they’re talking about!?
There’s no chance of me getting an actual prescription here - these things are really hard to get in the UK. I have enanthate/propionate in the form of Testoviron.
you don’t need a prescription, google some stuff like “test cyp” maybe type in “underground” and start researching … get yourself a few vials and go by something similar to the protocol above for whatever weekly dosage you want …i’d start around 160-180 mgs a week / inject 60 mgs 3 times a week in your delt.
Thanks. I read up on Proviron and it seems like exactly what I’m looking for so I’ve ordered some. If it works, is it ok to just take Proviron and nothing else? Bear in mind I’m not a bodybuilder I just like the libido boost and slight gains/leanness that Testoviron/Sustanon USED to give me (I’m 41 and started when I was 38) but don’t any more, probably because they raise my E2 too much.
I found all my previous E2 results and they always have the same result - on/off T and even on/off PCT and they’re always the same: 92pmol (and when I see the full print out there’s a <). So I’m guessing they just don’t register it here when it’s below that. I can order a private one but only if it’s an absolute must - so f**king expensive.
The anastrozole is hardly making any difference at all.
I had to look Testoviron up.
From the Wiki: It says you should inject 2-3 times a week. Maybe that is your problem.
Testosterone propionate , sold under the brand name Testoviron among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid (AAS) medication which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels in men.[4][1][5]
It is given by injection into muscle usually once every two to three days.
I think I’ve seen that and I’m pretty sure it is only referring to a preparation that only has propionate. The enanthate has a longer ester and releases slow, the propionate fast. Certainly the label advises every 21 days just like Sustanon. I’m aware this isn’t the norm among bodybuilders but that was never my goal. Obviously I don’t want to have levels that see saw either. Anyway, I’ve got high hopes for Proviron. If that doesn’t work I’m tempted to just give up on at all altogether. Get old lol.
I’m done responding to this clown !!! Numerous ppl have given him advice and he fails to listen. If he researched he would know you can’t just take proviron and stop saying test cyp 3 times a week is for no its not…, he’s a troll or a complete fucking moron so if the latter he shouldn’t be taking anything anyways. chow chow
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Don’t respond then. Your post made no sense anyway. And stop taking T if you can’t handle your anger issues.
That would drive me crazy.
So if you base your injection amount and frequency which do you pick?
I think you picked the slow one.
If you don’t pick the fast one that means that amount(?50%?) of T is no longer in your system.
Can you say T crash, haha?
This might be why you have lost your libido you have Low T when the enanthate is out of your system. An when you have both your T is too high raising your E2 giving you the water retention. IMO your T level is anything but steady.
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I guess I did pick the slow one. I do want to get this right but my priority is the feeling of wellbeing you can get off the right mix. Week two and two 250mg ampoules of Testoviron (enanthate/propionate) - all I’ve got is anger and a fat stomach and flabby tits. My dick feels like it’s been aenesthetised. Got no emotion really. None of this happened when I started out. I couldn’t stomach another shot yet, I’d probably just be a nightmare to be around. I’m a teacher and while a mild dose makes me more quick on my feet in the classroom, right now I’m just kinda irritable with my students. My Proviron arrives on Tuesday - 6 days after my last 125 of Testoviron. I’ll see how that makes me feel before I buy anything else or pin more of what I have.
If this was that important to you you would find a way to buy TE and throw that crap you currently have in the trash. It is the cause of all this. I wish you luck but proviron is not going to fix this.
Look this site does not allow source discussions. But it is so easy to find TE off the internet. Yes you might need to get a free bitcoin account and a bitcoin wallet. But TE is everywhere you just need to put some effort in it.
As for shots. What needle size are you using? I use an easy touch 27ga I inject here, see pic, and it is painless.
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Waaaaay too long an interval for enanthate. I’ve seen HL stated anywhere from 4-7 days. By day 21 you’re basically back down to baseline.
Edit: with the prop mixed in dose based on the shortest ester (EOD)
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Thanks. I just use the needle that comes in the packet with the ampoule - it doesn’t say on the packaging what the measurement is. I did try that location before and I wasn’t sure if it was in muscle or soft tissue so I chickened out and went back to the thigh muscle!
My Proviron has just arrived so I know the seller I found is good so maybe I’ll order some Test E now. I now though realise I was mixed-up about the formula in the Testoviron. According to the label it’s just ‘enantato de testosterona’.
Just taken my first Proviron anyway let’s see how this goes! Dunno how long it takes to get the benefits of it.
Mesterolone, sold under the brand name Proviron among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels. It has also been used to treat male infertility, although this use is controversial. It is taken by mouth. Wikipedia
Elimination half-life: 12-13 hours
Drug class: Androgen; Anabolic steroid
Bioavailability: 3%
Protein binding: 98% (40% to Albumin, 58% to SHBG)
Metabolism: Liver
That is a pretty short half life how much are you taking and how often?
I was going to take 3 or 4 per day at 3 or 4 hour intervals (25mg tablets)
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I hope you will report how things are going. I have never used Mesterolone your experience would help others.
For me I have been taking anastrozole for about 7 years and know it very well. So I plan to use that to keep my E2 in its sweet spot for me.
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I will report back. I’m only two doses in and it has improved my mood already - I was experiencing all the negative mood effects of both T and E2 but whatever this has done it’s a relief for now. I’m hoping it will have a similar effect on my libido and water retention.
If you do get some TE start with a low dose. Like 100mg/wk and do to its short half life plan on two shots a week. TE hits Steady State in 22 days that means it peaks in your system(you inject 100/w you have 200 in your body). Get a mini blood test or just go by how you feel. Increase it if your libido or overall mood is not good. But only up it to say 125mg/wk and wait the 22 days again. Best of luck to you.
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Just an update. Unfortunately none of these options have worked for the most part. Proviron, Enanthate, or anastrozole. I seem to also be rapidly gaining weight (fat) which is unusual for me. I’m 41 but I have a fast metabolism and I’m usually tall and skinny. I’m assuming it’s water retention though my doctor says if it’s not in my ankles it’s not water retention. I feel like my body is screaming at me to stop. I’m sweating buckets like I’m on a bloody manopause or something but I’m guessing that’s the anastrozole (I’ve titrated to .5 a week). I’ve developed really bad pseudogyno. Already had a consultation with a plastic surgeon and he confirmed it’s mostly fat - and that has come about from using T somehow. I never used to deposit fat there. So yeah, things aren’t going well. The only good that seemed to have come from the proviron was I noticed more ejaculate. But I see no option now but to stop everything and press the reset button. I don’t know if I need to do a full PCT after just two ampoules of Testoviron?