Persistent High Estrogen

If you have taken 4 blood tests this year why don’t you know your SHGB/TT/FT/E2/prolactin/HCT all these are must knows when injecting T and until you find your sweet spot T/E2 ratio you have to test a lot and make changes very slowly. You need to learn about the T you are injecting like what is its half life, this determines the frequency you inject and you need to know when it reaches steady state. With SS you pick an amount to inject, you have already determined how often by the halflife, and you wait the number of days until you reach SS. Then to do a mini blood test. Adjust your T dose up or down accordingly. It is always best to start low so high E2 does not start messing everything up and AI’s have to get involved.

Oh, statements like my doc tested my bloods and said everything was normal. Just make the guys of this forums blood boil. Most doc don’t test all the right things and normal just means you are somewhere between an 18 year old and 80.

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Yeah I noticed that hah. I’ve posted all that I could get done in a screenshot below somewhere. I don’t even know what HCT is that’s my fault. Prolactin was a tiny bit high when it was tested in April. I had some cabergaline and it made no difference. I swear my balls are smaller now even when I’m fully recovered. Stuff like that makes me wonder if the recovery is complete. Should I stop everything for a year and then see? I’m currently trying to order proviron and getting friends to check if it’s available in colombia as I’ve a flight in two weeks which right now I dunno if I can take I’m feeling that bad.

Men normal range 13-42 pg/ml 48-154 pmol/L
Time for the anastrozole maybe. 92 is on the high side of the range.

What about an over the counter diuretic to help cut that water? Something like Excel?

HCT is the thickness of your blood. It is usually below 50% liquid to red blood cells. Injecting too much T can raise your blood thickness to a dangerous high level which can make your heart work extra hard.

The actual result was ‘below 92’ with the endo saying that’s perfect and calling it I quote ‘ubdetectable’. 1/4 anastrozole (24 hours ago) has made a tiny difference. The fact I’m cumming completely dry is stressful. It feels like a UTI :nauseated_face:

Your balls don’t just make T they make other stuff as well and they are freaking out right now. In fact they are screaming at you right? They ache?
I am pretty sure your ejaculate will return to normal once you get your T and E2 levels stable.

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Something else to consider is some men have prostate issues when injecting T even at TRT doses. I believe it can effect even more than just the prostate.

This fluid is produced during ejaculation by accessory glands: the seminal vesicles, the prostate, and the bulbourethral glands. The seminal vesicles, two saclike structures, sit close behind the bladder and extend toward the bladder. There they each join one of the vas deferens to form the ejaculatory ducts.

I really do think time is the best to get this sorted. I would still do 1/4 /week of your AI and just keep your T injections constant.

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Okay I’ll do that :+1:

I’ve had a PSA test and my prostate is fine. I’ve put an order in for proviron but looks like they’re going to take a while to verify payment.

I just wanted to make one last comment on your blood test. Your SHGB at 28.7 is just about perfect. You will have a lot of FreeT for what you inject and that is a good thing. That said SHGB also binds E2 and since your SHGB is mid to low you would be binding Free E2 or Free T so IMO, others here feel different, you will feel more bad E2 effects than others with high SHGB that can tolerate a lot of E2. Says the guy with an SHGB of 15. I can’t let my E2 get over 35 pg/mL without blowing up like a puffer fish. Good luck on your journey. You are staying on TRT from now on right? No more PCT’s back from TRT?

I had planned to stay on TRT. But it all depends on whether I can strike the right balance with this.

I must have missed the discussion on why you would go from a good naddy T level to TRT then PCT back in the first place. You said you were not a bodybuilder. What got you interested in injecting T?

I was in Mexico chatting to a doctor about fatigue and depression and he said: take this (sustanon). And I did. And I felt great and did so on around two full 250mg ampoules every two weeks or so. Skip to 1.5 years later and I was hitting the gym more so I ‘experimented’ with larger doses and two shots of deca (50mg) because I decided I wanted to build more muscle. That’s when the problems started. That was march 2020 and I haven’t been right since despite doing a PCT - back to modest TRT and ended up like this - then another PCT this year and now…back to feeling like shit again. I’m worried the deca did some permanent damage.

The increase in Testoviron and the deca was right before the first lockdown so my gym shut and I found myself in a flat alone practically head butting the wall. The anger was unbelievable. And even now - being on T but not functioning sexually means I’m full of 'roid rage and limited in how I can burn it off. The water retention makes it hard to run or work out.

What kind of doctor would say such non-sense?

First, it’s not undetectable, it’s 92 pmol/L.

Second, undetectable would be a problem, not perfect.

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Could be because of the test method they are using. But undetectable should not be the case.

Once we go supraphysiological I am not sure if our minds ever really remember what normal or naddy felt like. We scan our minds and recall when we were 19 and could shoot a wad halfway across the room.
I don’t think you broke anything for good. Hormones take time they are not like normal drugs for a headache.
Can you get a prescription for T Cyp or T enanthate? Those two really do a great job at TRT. start out with 80mg/wk and see where that takes you. This is a marathon not a sprint. So go slow and increase slowly. Find the highest T you can take and not send your E2 above mid range. Then decide if you want more and an AI will be needed. The longer you inject T your SHGB will slowly drop over time. This will intensify E2’s negative effects but raise your Free T which is a good thing.

i gave you a good one above, start taking regular test cyp 250 and follow what i said above. You also could have bunk gear.

actually above you said you were goi ng to take 500 mgs a week…that’s why i suggested that dosing method. Good fucking lord , You are all over the place !!! Do you want to trt or blast …and do your own research. Stop asking everyone what proviron does etc. Research research and do more research. You dont need hcg unless you want kids soon, it will only fuck with your estro …

The actual result says 92, not < 92. And that’s right in the middle of the range, but your doc thinks it’s undetectable? Bro find a new dr lol.

You took AI after this lab work, right?

Edit: I see @lordgains beat me to this, but he’s right. Your doc isn’t that great when it comes to hormones

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