so… it’s more difficult…
Sounds fun! I wish I had access to one
Its a different movement. For me, it plays into the combined relative weakness of my upper back and upper chest. I definitely feel a value in including them in training for all round strength, especially as log diameter gets bigger. I have access to a baby log and I wouldn’t bother buying one if I was to equip a gym, it feels similar enough to a trap bar to not be worth the expense due to the small diameter.
I’ll argue it’s the exact other way around from a certain weight up. I can clean significantly more on a log and press a lot more on a bb.
With the amount of volume you can do with 60 kg strict presses, I have a hard time accepting that you can’t press a 50 kg log, @dagill2 . After a little bit of technique fine tuning, you’ll get it no problem.
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You think YOUR upper back is weak 
You’re probably right, and it’s going to be fun finding out when I get back to it.
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I know it.
Comparatively.
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There is a lot to be said about barbell vs log (specific weaknesses, technique and brute strength). I just don’t have the time to write it down rn. Maybe later, if I remember.
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I can press more with a log than I can with a barbell, primarily due to the shorter ROM. I can CONTINENTAL more with a bar than I can clean with a log, but if we’re talking ACTUAL cleans, it gets tricky.
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Oh yeah good point to consider continentals. I don’t know how it stands for me in that case.
I think we both have very different styles of pressing, which explains the difference. You press with a lot more brute strength, where as I do kind of a push jerk technique with the barbell, which I consider a more technical way of pressing.
The range of motion doesn’t matter much for me. If anything the it takes away from my leg drive.
Ah yeah: I was just discussing strict pressing. With leg drive, I can press more with a straight bar vs a log.
Haha I feel like we have arrived at this point more than once before.
Yeah I was thinking press however you need to. If we are talking strict press, I might agree with you but it’s pretty even between straight bar and log for me.
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Yeah, when discussing with other strongman I get the vernacular, but among the general populace I always default to weightlifting terminology when it comes to the press.
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Man, I don’t get anything out of the reduced range of motion on the log. My log press with leg drive is almost identical to what I strict press on an axle.
Ok that’s the extreme end of the spectrum. If you’d like you can throw up a video and we can have a look if there’s anything that is holding you back. @dicksharpe
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I have deloped an issue with my hip flexors/ front of the hip joint. It started as some tightness and got progressively worse over the last couple of weeks. Both sides are affected but the left more prominent/ painful.
The discomfort/ pain presents if I flex my hip (doesn’t matter if from caudal or cranial and it presents even if I lay on the side, although to less degree). So pushing my hip back and then extending or just flexing my hip from the femur can produce the sensation.
This bothers me on log presses and can cause me to go on my toes prematurly. Another event that’s problematic is squats, as one would expect but here comes the twist:
Bodyweight- painful. Going deeper makes it worse
Empty bar - same, a little worse
60 kg - better
100 kg - better!
140 kg - even better.
167,5 kg - pretty much fine
177,5 kg - maybe some tightness/ mobility issues but hars to say. No more pain or discomfort!
Recent changes:
- While most therapists and trainers know by now that sitting does not make your hip flexors tight, it is noteworthy that I have been sitting more during lockdown.
- Lots of heavy lof lifting with high frequency
- sleep: Pretty much non existent nur that’s not new per se
- stress: High. Both rational (should reasonably ecpect this to be better by next week) as well as irrational.
I was thinking of applying some hip flexor stretching throughout the day and we will probably take a deload next week but any inout is welcome.
Any ideas, guys @j4gga2 @FlatsFarmer ?
Thanks for letting me use your log for this, guess I’ll get more eyes on it here.
This was yesterday, 62,5kg for six reps clean and press away, the first of four sets. Not close enough to failure to see any real form breakdown but maybe you or someone else can give me some pointers on technique. Apart from technical things, I believe that at least part of the reason why I don’t get anything out of the reduced range of motion are comparatively weak triceps.
tl/dr: Log no good. Why?
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I have some ideas:
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Extension. Your doing a fine job with the knees out and hip extension but the extensio (technically plantar flexion) at your ankles is missing. Think “jumping vertically”.
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Your elbows could be higher in the rack position. That requires more backward lean and for that reason I would advise you to try a belt. Makes that aspect more comfortable.
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Exam stress high, other stress high, sleep non existent but BOY, the weather! 
1 log lift (clean once)
3 x 8 @ 91 kg
2 squats
167,5 kg last warm up
4 x 2 @ 177,5 kg
3 strict log press
3 x 8 @ 68,5 kg
4 vertical jumps
5 x 3
5 aleknas
3 x 14 @ 2x5 kg
- despite what is happening with my hips I am fucking delighted with these squats! They felt awesome, I felt in control and really strong. Definitely the lightest this weight has ever felt. No huge weights but not too shabby for lifting on an uneven surface with those abominations of squat stands and without a spot or safeties. Good stuff.
- speaking about the weather, I asked my doc if we checked vitamin D previously. We did not. He said they don’t routinely check it out because they weren’t able to find any real relations and especially no causality between depression and vitamin D levels. He also argued that my symptoms aren’t seasonal. He was still happy to indulge my curiousity me and we are doing a test next week. @bagsy @anna_5588 @Voxel
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Thanks, good points. Rewatched some other videos, I seem to be doing a better job of getting my heels off the ground on the axle, which could be why I find pressing it much easier.
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Found the problem - it’s the shoes.
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