Lots and lots of times. Of course depends on what you’re looking for specifically.
I should have guessed ![]()
I’m clearly not a doctor, so I’ll stop here…
Haha all good, I don’t think any doctor is following this thread and as I said, I don’t take advice given to me here as medically bullet proof. I have gotten some seriously good input in the past.
If it wasn’t for @Voxel and someone else, who is not a member here, the whole hormone thing would still be uncovered as no doctor ever had the idea of checking me for that. Despite my medical history.
Why?
Magnesium bisglycinate is the best one for sleep. Zinc is good as well. Most ZMAs I’ve come across have really poor quality magnesium.
Glycine helps (3-5g) too. Too much and I have an adverse effect.
I’ve found casein to be nice before bed.
Really like alternating between chamomile and passionflower tea.
Vitamin D in the mornings
If I didn’t train in the evening I’ll have my omega-3 at night before bed (helps seratonin signalling).
Carbs before bed too.
From what I’ve read, Melatonin doesn’t really help with sleep quality
(some articles)
it helps with falling asleep though
Anecdotally, I find that it makes me feel groggier the next morning, but that’s just me
definitely. A nice bowl of oatmeal with casein mixed in!
lemongrass is nice too
So those supps would be taken in the evening?
Interesting stuff, I honestly never reall looked too much into supps. Let alone for daily life improvement.
I thought one of his issues were falling asleep, it didn’t say so explicitly but that’s what my brain parses this as
My subjective experience with melatonin is that it improves sleep quality but I confess to not having done a proper spreadsheet nor cross-referenced with my sleep tracker as I’m happy enough with just thinking I’ve slept better rather than knowing I’ve slept better.
How much are you taking?
Never tried. Living in a small town I have to order passionflower online. Chamomille is abundantly available.
I take vitamin D in the morning.
I take magnesium at night, usually half an hour before my casein pudding (+ eventual carbs) (together with 1mg of melatonin if warranted).
I have the glycine in the pudding.
If it’s an off-day I have my fish oil and a swig of water just before this “meal”.
Does that clarify the timing?
I don’t take it anymore. I used to take .5mg (1/2 of a gummy with 1mg). Of course, I also get buzzed on 25mg of caffiene, so I’m probably an outlier
sorry, my bad, I missed that ![]()
Not necessarily but it can happen. Sleeping through the night and especially feeling worse than if I hadn’t slept are more the issue than falling asleep.That is a case to case issue. But I will say at least lately the two seem to be connected.
I’d think so. Everything at night and Vitamin D in the morning.
Koz is also nearly three times your size.
Omega-3 in the morning if you are training in the evening.
good point… sorry ![]()
Actually even a little over three times, lol. ![]()
Okay. What’s the difference there?
No worries, you were relaying your experience. As was I. Both are equally justified. I’ve never heard of anyone being groggy on melatonin before, it’s why I prefer it as a sleep-aid. The other ones I have had would leave me groggy for at least a day but they were combo anti-anxiety pills. Well, really, it was age-old allergy medication with the added side-effect of it making one too groggy to be anxious. I think that’s what’s called “off-label” use? By now, allergy medication has improved though I hope (for people with allergies)
Omega-3 is anti-inflammatory. You do not want to inhibit the inflammation caused by your training. It’s part of the recovery process.
I was thinking something like this.
I’m a relatively closed off person emotionally but since this shit started I have been having issues falling and staying asleep, despite my CPAP working fine.
Not impossible that this is a reason why I’ve been having more issues again lately. The whole thing existed long before corona though.