@Koestrizer @mortdk
What’s the number system like in Danish, German and these other dialects you’ve been talking about?
I find it interesting that English is the weird one and tough to learn with numbers like eleven, twelve, then the teens, whereas other languages the numbers are basically translated as- one ten and one, one ten and two etc. Much easier to learn place value which is a great base for everything else. I’ve found kids that have learnt other languages prior to coming to Australia have a greater number sense than our kids
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I had to think about that for a minute, haha.
I’d say in German it’s exactly the same as in English.
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We’re probably the worst, we’ve got unique numbers on all the teens.
From twenty we count like one and twenty, two and twenty very backwards for english speakers.
But the teens ends in a “ten” like "teen. Now you’ve mentioned it I get all frustrated, to me it was so obvious. Now it’s stupid.
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As far as I’m aware historically our languages (not a dane or a german, but swedish) share a common ancestry and are all considered “germanic” languages
and so I wouldn’t be surprised if we all are somewhere on the spectrum between English/Danish with regards to how the teens are unique/combo-numbers. Swedish has ~5* unique teen numbers.
But at least it’s not like French and it’s sixty and ten, four twenties or four times twenty and ten…
* Depends on how unique you need to be for it to “count” (no pun intended)
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@mortdk and @Voxel interesting stuff, maybe it’s the Asian languages that have the sensible number system, I know Japanese does (only as I have to facilitate the lesson as it’s via WebEx).
Much simpler than English, which thinking about it, much of Europe probably has a similar structure. Sorry for the rant. It’s tough for little ones to get their heads around, especially when your talking about hundreds, tens and ones etc, then there’s numbers like twelve and the teens that don’t fit the pattern.
Sorry for the nerdy thread hijack @Koestrizer
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Irish would like a word. It has three different, non-interchangable number systems depending on context.
Just counting? One, two, three is a hAon, a Dó, a Trí.
Specifying a number of things? Now one is aon [thing] amháin. Two things is dhá things, not dó things.
Oh, and if the number of things is between seven and ten, the noun changes. Just 'cos.
Wait, are the things you’re counting people rather than objects? Time for another set of numbers! Two people is now beirt. Three is now tríur. Unless there’s 13 or more people. Then it’s normal again.
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hahaha that is a sure winner. Even for an Irish that must be tough
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I don’t really know much Irish but it’s at least a super-regular language; I think there’s only about seven irregular verbs and the pronunciation is very rigid compared to English - which isn’t saying much, given how fucked up English pronunciation is.
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Irish sounds like a challenge, but like you said Matt, English is a bitch, so many variances, add to that some local slang and you’ve got a real headfuck.
Yer Irish is hard but pikey is impossible
16.04.
1 log cleans (1 min between sets)
3 x 3 @ 96 kg
2 box squats (briefs + sleeves)
5 x 3 @ 170 kg
3 lunges (total reps)
1 x 20 @ 20 kg (bar)
2 x 20 @ 30 kg
4 jump rope
Notes:
- the squats technically felt and looked the best from set 3 onwards. Main point for that is minimal forward knee movement while still staying upright. Putting the hips to work.
- the lunges weren’t as bad as I remembered them from last time
- If I looked any stupider doing jump ropes, I would be required to wear a helmet. Got annoyed pretty quick
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Don’t worry about it, I enjoy the lively exchange. My training posts will still be seen by anyone who cares, haha.
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Don’t worry I am not expecting an expert medical opinion on this one but I thought I’d just throw it out here and maybe someone has an idea if I am not seeing something.
I periodically wake up feeling absolutely trashed. Like I am motion sick from simple walking, have a headache possibly and generally feel like I have been run over by a bulldozer. Basically like a really bad hangover! The only thing that helps is lying in bed and if possible sleeping.
Last Friday it was so bad that I eventually finally left my bed at 4 pm. Today it’s pretty damn bad again. Took a nap after only being awake for like 3 hours. Don’t feel good afterwards but at least could get myself to move.
The night I slept poorly. I mainly couldn’t find into sleep but all in all I would say I slept around 6 hours. Not great but not terrible either.
Last week I thought maybe training played a role but I have since put that thought aside.
Some obvious things:
- depression: The whole thing is not unfamiliar per se. I am not doing fantastic but I don’t think I am currently doing that bad, that this is considered the only suspect.
- sleep apnea: I had a test done a few months ago. It was one of those tests that you take home from your doctor, not one where you spend a night in a sleep lab. The test came back negative. Doc said I am snorring heavily but to no effect (no breathing stops/ lack of oxygen)
- hormones: I don’t really know too much on this and have no idea if this is a suspect. Any similar experiences, @Voxel?
- alcohol/ drugs: Because I mentioned the similarity to a really bad hangover. I didn’t drink yesterday nor last thursday (the nights before the worst recent occasions of this phenomenon). I dont consume illegal drugs, steroids, sleeping medication etc.
- Overtraining: So far I don’t see a connection between this and training. This phenomenon exists for a long time (although it has been better for a while now - which maybe points back to depression). It happens in seemingly all phases of training. Atm I don’t train emotionally “charged” (no hype up, no smelling salts) and in general not THAT heavy.
So yeah… Has anyone any similar experiences or maybe strategies how to deal with this?
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I’m sorry I don’t have this in memory but I urge you to think back on your training as well and not just evaluate what you are doing in the weight room in the current moment. Sometimes, the way we feel now can be the consequences of exertions weeks and months in the past depending on how hard we pushed ourselves.
I’m going to make up some numbers to illustrate. I’ve had one physical exertions that took me a long time to recover from. Whenever I was putting in say 70% effort I was okay, but whenever I went up to +80% I’d hit a brick wall again. It simply took a lot of time in that 70% effort area and overall doing less until finally one day I didn’t experience a set-back after pushing myself.
Didn’t you compete not super long ago?
Also, injuries. When my back was at its worst it’d cut hours off of my day. You’ve an ongoing bad spell with your back, no? Then even rest isn’t restful.
As a former sufferer all I can say is that you’d be amazed at how well you might think you are doing until you are finally doing fine. You’ll say to yourself “How the hell was I managing to feel like that? How was that my idea of “okay”?!” when you are actually doing okay.
Yes, I have far fewer experiences such as the one you describe now. But now I have a lot more stuff figured out than I did before.
Also, I don’t know if you are a person that others would consider emphatic but if you are this global pandemic might be eating away at your subconscious. I for one feel as if I’m experiencing a heightened sense of alarm, so I’m just feeling more and more run down.
I just got a weighted cover, first good night sleep in a long time.
Maybe ask a doc for a Melatonin prescription?
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You make some really good points.
On the first argument about training: I already thought back and give this a real good thought but I stand by it, that this is probably not it.
The competition was on the 1st of February and I barely peaked for it. That shouldn’t come into play.
The injury situation is an interesting point but my back was never in that bad of shape that I would actively cut hours off my day. Plus right now it’s the best it has been in a long time.
That point seems very likely tbh.
Sometimes in the last few weeks I had some glances of happiness. Just a seemingly unreasonable little shiny moment, you know? It filled my heart and I was so happy I could have cried, if that was actually possible, which it still is not. I think I feel about these moments so strongly because they still present such a strong contrast to what I consider “ok”. Those moments would only last like 1-5 minutes tops and only occur on a few days. Haven’t had one in a while.
I am not sure. Probably yes. A therapist said not to long ago that she thought it was remarkable that I could bring up huge amounts of empathy for others but none whatsoever for myself.
The weird thing with sleep is: I don’t sleep that poorly on average if we qualify sleep by hours slept purely. I don’t wake up 8 times a night and at least not every night need hours before I fall asleep. I suppose it could still be possible that my sleep quality is poor. I just don’t know enough about this.
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Box squats are looking good, like you’re making them tough to really Train some muscles.
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Thanks man, I’m really trying hard to do them as you told me to!
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I’ve never had it THAT bad, but there are definitely days where I feel pretty trashed the way you describe.
Going for a walk, lots of water and staying warm usually helps me when I feel like that.
I have the same problem with sleep. Sleep quality is probably a culprit. Magnesium and vitamin D really help if you’re not taking them already. I’d stay away from melatonin though
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The problem is that I literally feel physically sick. Not like when you wake up in a deep sleep phase and are super groggy and depleted, but full on fucked up.
I am not taking those supps currently but have them here, so no harm to try them.
Medication would be my doctor’s choice anyway. I am not for, nor against it. Tbh I have taken so much medication in my life, that I am not easily impressed by it. Plus I am very responsible about it. I have some extremely serious and addictive stuff here, that most doctors are quite shocked if I mentione it (although I didn’t know that when it was originally prescribed). And enough of it to probably kill me at least once, if not twice. Never been tempted to do dumb shit with it or take it regularely.
Have you gotten bloodwork done?