It seems that most people are using peptides during their cycle or in conjunction with their PCT. With all of the busts and attention to AS lately I wouldn’t mind just using peptides with AS. Does anyone have much experience cycles with peptides without using AS? Any info on this would be appreciated.
Sounds like a waste of money to me.
I know of one person who is about to use IGF for the first time without ever using AAS. He plans to begin a 3 week cycle in less than a month. I talk to him often and will post his results following his use.
I work with a guy who did an IGF only cycle last summer and he loved it. It was noticeable to me as well, and I see him every day. I think he tried it on it’s own just to see what it was like before he combined it with anything else.
He’s a very experienced AAS user and knows what he’s doing in the gym, so I trust him. The only thing is he’s kind of a freak. He seems to grow off just about anything, but I hope this helps anyway.
personally i wouldnt reccomend it. Having no experience with igf 1 i cant comment, as far as growth hormone goes, using that peptide alone will be effective, albeit not by half as much when combined with a good aas cycle.
Hell, Sly Stallone aint done too bad if jintropin is all he uses!
I ran a couple cycles of IGF-1 & pegMGF together without AAS.
While I did experience some noticeable results, they were certainly very subtle in comparison with AAS. I’ve since used both of these peptides individually as part of PCT, and found them to be much more useful in that regard. I held onto a very high percentage of gains and experienced no mood or libido crash.
As far as running these peptides in place of an AAS cycle, the results will not be worth the price IMHO.
Of course, some of the benefits of IGF-1 and pegMGF include the supposed replenishment of satellite cells leading to long term hyperplasia. As these effects are difficult, if not impossible to measure, it’s very hard to quantify the value of these peptides in that regard.
What protocol did you use for IGF-1 cycle? I am nearing the end of an IGF-1 cycle used during PCT. I ran 40mcg total, injected bi-laterally on workout days. I have lost no strenght. I also noticed no mood or libido crash either. I did notice an increase in facial acene - strange I only had a few pimps during my AAS cycle.
[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
I ran a couple cycles of IGF-1 & pegMGF together without AAS.
While I did experience some noticeable results, they were certainly very subtle in comparison with AAS. I’ve since used both of these peptides individually as part of PCT, and found them to be much more useful in that regard. I held onto a very high percentage of gains and experienced no mood or libido crash.
As far as running these peptides in place of an AAS cycle, the results will not be worth the price IMHO.
Of course, some of the benefits of IGF-1 and pegMGF include the supposed replenishment of satellite cells leading to long term hyperplasia. As these effects are difficult, if not impossible to measure, it’s very hard to quantify the value of these peptides in that regard.[/quote]
I used the same protocol you are using, 40mcg, 5 days per week for three weeks. I experienced a little acne on the arms & shoulders about 10 days into PCT as well.
[quote]SkullSplitter wrote:
What protocol did you use for IGF-1 cycle? I am nearing the end of an IGF-1 cycle used during PCT. I ran 40mcg total, injected bi-laterally on workout days. I have lost no strenght. I also noticed no mood or libido crash either. I did notice an increase in facial acene - strange I only had a few pimps during my AAS cycle.
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Thats exactly the same dosing I’m using. We must get or info from the same place. Unfortunately I’ve lost strength with IGF on PCT.
I’m under the impression that size gains come later when the new satellite cells mature.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
SkullSplitter wrote:
What protocol did you use for IGF-1 cycle? I am nearing the end of an IGF-1 cycle used during PCT. I ran 40mcg total, injected bi-laterally on workout days. I have lost no strenght. I also noticed no mood or libido crash either. I did notice an increase in facial acene - strange I only had a few pimps during my AAS cycle.
Thats exactly the same dosing I’m using. We must get or info from the same place. Unfortunately I’ve lost strength with IGF on PCT.
I’m under the impression that size gains come later when the new satellite cells mature.
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I’m under the same impression regarding gains coming at a later day. Did you make sure to mix your IGF correctly and also store it correctly?
[quote]SkullSplitter wrote:
I’m under the same impression regarding gains coming at a later day. Did you make sure to mix your IGF correctly and also store it correctly?[/quote]
Yep. I keep it in the fridge and I used 2 ml of AA to reconstitute it. Even out of the fridge it will last up to a year at around 75 degrees. In the fridge it will last up to two years. GH and PegMGF is a little more sensitive.