Random person sees severely obese cat: “Oh my god, the poor thing, imagine how much it is suffering, it can’t run around and play with the other cats normally, how sad it must feel, the strain on its heart… the owner needs to be punished.”
Same person sees a 350 pound fat fuck sitting at a Burger King: Just a normal sight, doesn’t look twice. Even though that fatass is suffering with literally all of the ailments that I listed above, that the fat cat has.
I just find it amazing that the only reason why obese animals make us sad vs obese humans, is that they were (in the vast majority of cases) overfed and/or underexcercised by their owners, who they clearly depend on. But us humans, we feed ourselves and so the blame is on us. But IT’S STILL JUST AS FUCKING BAD… A morbidly obese dude is in just as grave a danger as his morbidly obese pooch is. No difference.
And not only that - but nowadays, being fat is even glorified and praised by some people. All of that fat acceptance bullshit. And the same people who support that shit, would start crying when they saw a dog that is as fat as they are and would want to rescue it from its evil owners. Completely wild.
And we are only talking pets here. Obese livestock is often prized. Joe Rogan summed up wagyu beef as “a dying obese diseased man” and really altered my perspective.
I mean, I will still eat it, but now I think about it.
Cattle are also injected pretty heavily with tren so they can go to market as quickly as possible. They’re more of a commodity than a focus of care. For better or worse.
I don’t think this is the case for the majority of people when they see obese people. It’s apparent such people are obese to onlookers. And yes, some people don’t give obese people much thought, while others do think of the poor health of such people.
You making this thread is coincidental considering I was recently thinking of making a thread about food addiction and obesity in the nutrition forum. I am sincerely interested in what makes people habitually overeat even while the effects of make overeaters suffer, especially considering I work in nutrition. I wouldn’t mind discussing addiction generally also. @QuadQueen
I have two close friends and a brother that have yo-yoed for ages with their weight, up to obesity. One who is blessed in the muscle-building department is now trying very hard to finally rid himself of excess weight.
I think only a tiny minority of people glorify overweight.
Cool but, if they choose an unhealthy lifestyle, they should be responsible for the financial consequences, like health insurance. Why should that be my problem? That is how you end up with retards like Luigi.
Currently an influential segment of our culture values emotional health above all else, even physical health. What matters most is how you feel. Even life and death must take a backseat to emotional feelings.
Logic is secondary to how you feel. In the hierarchy of minority groups the smallest minority’s feelings are the most important. We can see this hierarchy of emotional health in play in many different categories of groupings.
I very much agree with this. If being overweight/obese was glorified, we wouldn’t have shortages of Ozempic, Wegovy and other weight loss drugs. The diet industry wouldn’t be a multi-billion dollar thing, and the fitness/nutrition “influencers” we see would probably look a whole lot different.
I feel that in many cases, being overweight/obese is a form of eating disorder. It’s not about the food - it’s about treating a bigger symptom. Food is a coping mechanism. Having spent a vast majority of my life battling the other side of the eating disorder spectrum and having worked with folks on both sides, I can tell you that the thought processes are the same - the addiction is what we/they use to survive. It’s serving a purpose and until the underlying cause of the over or under eating is addressed, the problem will persist. Unlike other addictions though, you can’t just never go the table, like you can stop going to a bar. Food is everywhere, and we need it to survive, so even after weight is lost, it’s so easy to fall back into old patterns when life kicks hard. Eating Disorders are a bitch regardless of which side you’re on. Emotions are hard, trauma is hard. We all have coping mechanisms - some of them are just easier to see than others. Judging anyone based body size is not okay - because you never know what led them to that place. If it’s in your power to help and/or support someone who’s struggling - then do that. If it’s none of your business - just worry about your jump rope and yourself. I’m more than certain we’ve all got junk and just because we can’t see yours, it doesn’t make you better than anyone else.
Maybe we don’t react to the 350 pound person at Burger King the same way we do to an overweight pet because we all can relate to that person on some level. It hits closer to home and we don’t want to think about that - so let’s ignore or shame them instead. I’m not saying we glorify anything but maybe we could do a little better showing some compassion.
That went totally off the rails, but here we are and I’ve typed too much to just delete it. lol
I think it has more to do with the fact that the animal is being overfed due to the owner’s poor decisions. It’s similar to why seeing an overweight child makes people sad, the parent is responsible. An obese adult is responsible for their own condition, which is why people either don’t care or find it gross, especially when they’re seen stuffing their faces in public. Either way they do not want to be involved.
