http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080110/hl_afp/lifestyleushealthobesity_080110170913
Sad.
With this kind of logic, I hate to think where we are heading as a society, not only in terms of health, but economically:
“When you have a first-rate medical system that can cure the diseases that obesity promotes, you no longer need to worry so much about being obese,” he told AFP.
jpb
Sorry this may come off slightly half-assed, but I am pissed off.
I am reflecting on how the entire fabric of our society seems to be bent on making us fat and unhappy.
Go to a grocery store, and you are surrounded by bad food choices.
Surrounded.
also,
Advertising on TV.
Billboards.
Fast food joints.
You know what else we’re surrounded by? Fat, unhealthy people.
I have come to the conclusion that, in order to become healthy, or remain so, one much venture forth with a warrior attitude, ready to do battle. Because let’s face it, the odds are against us. We are running uphill. And it’s not only the constant pressure to eat crap, to be complacent and mediocre, that we have to deal with - it comes from all sides - people serving crap food, encouraging us to do the same.
We must also protect ourselves from being influenced by the attitudes of those around us, who are often apathetic, lazy, conforming, etc.
Food is a fucking disease in our society.
"Obesity is not a choice for Alley English, a 28-year-old mother from Missouri who has struggled with a weight problem all her life…
“As we get older, life does get more rushed and we do tend to make the easier choices sometimes,” English, who currently weighs 392 pounds (178 kilograms), told AFP.
“But you can’t say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you’ll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved.”
You don’t get to 400lbs from bad genes. Maybe instead of whining and making excuses, she should have tried the aforementioned(exercise more, quit fast food, etc.) for more than one week/month/whatever short amount of time, and she wouldn’t be dealing with this problem now.
“But you can’t say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you’ll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved.”
this one made me laugh.
[quote]wakiki wrote:
Sorry this may come off slightly half-assed, but I am pissed off.
I am reflecting on how the entire fabric of our society seems to be bent on making us fat and unhappy.
Go to a grocery store, and you are surrounded by bad food choices.
Surrounded.
also,
Advertising on TV.
Billboards.
Fast food joints.
You know what else we’re surrounded by? Fat, unhealthy people.
I have come to the conclusion that, in order to become healthy, or remain so, one much venture forth with a warrior attitude, ready to do battle. Because let’s face it, the odds are against us. We are running uphill. And it’s not only the constant pressure to eat crap, to be complacent and mediocre, that we have to deal with - it comes from all sides - people serving crap food, encouraging us to do the same.
We must also protect ourselves from being influenced by the attitudes of those around us, who are often apathetic, lazy, conforming, etc.
Food is a fucking disease in our society.[/quote]
Fuckin A! I agree wholeheartedly. I just dont see how “Obesity” and being a Fat fuck is a choice. Why would you want to be soft,lazy,and disgusting when…with alittle dedication,alittle hardwork you can be better looking. Its beyond me really. Whatever,im pretty sure somewhere in the future…Survival of the Fittess will actually be applied literally.
[quote]mr_slick wrote:
wakiki wrote:
Sorry this may come off slightly half-assed, but I am pissed off.
I am reflecting on how the entire fabric of our society seems to be bent on making us fat and unhappy.
Go to a grocery store, and you are surrounded by bad food choices.
Surrounded.
also,
Advertising on TV.
Billboards.
Fast food joints.
You know what else we’re surrounded by? Fat, unhealthy people.
I have come to the conclusion that, in order to become healthy, or remain so, one much venture forth with a warrior attitude, ready to do battle. Because let’s face it, the odds are against us. We are running uphill. And it’s not only the constant pressure to eat crap, to be complacent and mediocre, that we have to deal with - it comes from all sides - people serving crap food, encouraging us to do the same.
We must also protect ourselves from being influenced by the attitudes of those around us, who are often apathetic, lazy, conforming, etc.
Food is a fucking disease in our society.
Fuckin A! I agree wholeheartedly. I just dont see how “Obesity” and being a Fat fuck is a choice. Why would you want to be soft,lazy,and disgusting when…with alittle dedication,alittle hardwork you can be better looking. Its beyond me really. Whatever,im pretty sure somewhere in the future…Survival of the Fittess will actually be applied literally.
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It’s the same reason people choose to be smokers. You could ask a smoker, “Why would you want…(laundry list of health problems)”. Both fatties and smokers are viewed as disgusting burdens to society(ironically, flab use to be a status symbol of wealth and smoking also had a positive image), yet both of them obtain that momentary feeling of pleasure/stress relief that comes from eating/smoking multiple times per day. They choose to engage in unhealthy behaviors in exchange for those short term benefits(ie:stress relief, or as with smoking: avoiding withdrawl symptoms).
Do I even have to comment this one?
Up to 1/2 of our long term and even short term diseases and health problems would be cured by people eating well and exercising. It’s the people more than the doctors.
Okay, this is coming from the opinion of someone who used to weigh over 300 lbs (currently 140)-
It is a lot harder to lose weight than some people think, than many on this site think.
I do believe that there are some people who are fat naturally and who have to work at inverting that. I was raised in a family of 6 children. I was the only fat one. I was chubby as a baby, and I just kept getting bigger. I was on the exact same diet as my siblings. My parents were poor, we got no sugary snacks, we only got fruit off the trees in the backyard. I have looked back over my past to try and find a way that I was retaining more calories, but I wasn’t.
I played outside every freaking day during the summer. I could ride my bike as fast and as far as every other ‘skinny’ kid, I ran races, I played football, I played hard all day, unlike modern kids.
And I was still freaking fat.
Now, I see people who were thin when they were young and got fat when they were older, and they went on a diet and lost the weight relatively easy.
For example, my aunt went from 130 lbs to 250 in a year and half, due to non-stop donuts and Pepsi and a new desk job. All she did was stopped eating the donuts and drinking the pepsi and eating crap and walking in the morning and the fat melted off of her.
I had to diet strictly, kickbox, weight lift, run, and work my ass of and it took me years.
I’m not saying that this means that people can’t lose weight. I did, and through much studying on my part, I sort of ‘reprogrammed’ my metabolism and I can eat nearly 3200 calories a day without gaining weight.
But it was hard. It was HARD, and someone who hasn’t experienced this really has no idea what it like. It’s not like dieting down after a bulk.
With all that said, I do believe that people like this are a great minority. I see fat butterball kids with their fatter parents and you know they are like that because they don’t move.
But we have to get out of the habit of pegging every single fat person as being lazy and eating everything, because there are some who do not.
Well if that pisses you of go to the special interest group thats supports the “fat lifestyle”.
Truly fucking pathetic.
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With all that said, I do believe that people like this are a great minority. I see fat butterball kids with their fatter parents and you know they are like that because they don’t move.
But we have to get out of the habit of pegging every single fat person as being lazy and eating everything, because there are some who do not. [/quote]
I agree that yes you were/are in a great minority. However, the lady in the article is an extreme example of obesity and seems to be outside of what you are describing. If you are a 400 pound lady you either have a very, very serious health problem or your diet and exercise regimen suck.
Perhaps you really did have an under active thyroid as a kid (I know the obese always blame it on that,but your situation makes it sound like it was a real possibility).
[quote]Acebgd12 wrote:
With all that said, I do believe that people like this are a great minority. I see fat butterball kids with their fatter parents and you know they are like that because they don’t move.
But we have to get out of the habit of pegging every single fat person as being lazy and eating everything, because there are some who do not.
I agree that yes you were/are in a great minority. However, the lady in the article is an extreme example of obesity and seems to be outside of what you are describing. If you are a 400 pound lady you either have a very, very serious health problem or your diet and exercise regimen suck.
Perhaps you really did have an under active thyroid as a kid (I know the obese always blame it on that,but your situation makes it sound like it was a real possibility).
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Yes, the woman in that article was making excuses and then talking about getting gastric bypass, so I have no sympathy for her. By the sounds of her attitude, she likely does eat crap and admits to not exercising.
And even if someone does have it harder, I don’t mean that they can’t lose, just that it is harder. My response was mostly to someone above who made it sound simple to lose weight. I just want to point out that that isn’t always the case.
[quote]Robert P. wrote:
“I would not doubt that if you asked obese people if they could push a button and not be obese, close to 100 percent would say they would push the button.”
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“Close to 100 percent?” Are we fucking kidding?
I wonder how many people would rather be obese than healthy if all it took was the push of a button.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Robert P. wrote:
“I would not doubt that if you asked obese people if they could push a button and not be obese, close to 100 percent would say they would push the button.”
“Close to 100 percent?” Are we fucking kidding?
I wonder how many people would rather be obese than healthy if all it took was the push of a button.[/quote]
The creepy fat fetish people.
I just threw up in my mouth.