People Scared of Servicemen

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.[/quote]

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?
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You’re too ignorant for my liking, I’ll just go ahead and ignore your posts from now on. Go wave your flag proudly, don’t forget to kiss the TV when fox news, george bush, or john mccain make an appearance

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[quote]Nich wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Nich wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

You should respect all of them because they did something you are either unwilling or incapable of doing. Next time simply say thank you and walk away…

ok just for sake of argument here.
can anyone name atleast one incident in recent history where the us military has deployed in order to directly protect the freedoms of the united states people?

…at least 2 big ones I can remember…

a civil one maybe too…

How bout over in Afghanistan…

how about it,would you please explain?

if I remember my history correctly the only ones were

  1. american revoloution.
  2. american civil war

all other conflicts were us interventions in conflicts that were started and being fought by countries abroad.
am I wrong here?
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Pearl harbor and the world trade center were us soil, not to mention US embassies, ships and civilians that have been attacked over seas.

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?

You’re too ignorant for my liking, I’ll just go ahead and ignore your posts from now on. Go wave your flag proudly, don’t forget to kiss the TV when fox news, george bush, or john mccain make an appearance[/quote]

Touched a nerve, did I?

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?

You’re too ignorant for my liking, I’ll just go ahead and ignore your posts from now on. Go wave your flag proudly, don’t forget to kiss the TV when fox news, george bush, or john mccain make an appearance[/quote]

Go worship you America hating Obamasia and learn German or japanese while you are at it. If you hate this country so much, its free, that means you are free to leave. Don’t let the statue of liberty hit you in the ass on the way out.

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

Lol, your avatar totally looks as if that would’ve been his answer, too :wink:

It’s always interesting to see what threads bring out the effeminate, prissy little haters.

I assume you meant him (Hangerbaby or whatever), not me (you guys have the language advantage over me, remember?).

Yeah. Sorry about that. Germans usually speak better English than Americans though.
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My English teachers at school weren’t even fluent… (I live in former Eastern Germany though)

I learned it through 8 hours of Cartoon Network per day as a kid (back when it wasn’t total crap, like 1992-4 or so? Don’t recall too well, weird that we could even receive that channel) and reading English fantasy/Sci-Fi books :wink:

Whoever said those aren’t educational…

#Edit: Holy shit, and I thought splits vs tbt was a hot topic…
As soon as politics got involved in here, this thread took off like the Saturn V…

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?

You’re too ignorant for my liking, I’ll just go ahead and ignore your posts from now on. Go wave your flag proudly, don’t forget to kiss the TV when fox news, george bush, or john mccain make an appearance

Go worship you America hating Obamasia and learn German or japanese while you are at it. If you hate this country so much, its free, that means you are free to leave. Don’t let the statue of liberty hit you in the ass on the way out.[/quote]

First of all, I don’t like Obama, I don’t hate the country, I hate the morons who have ran it to the ground. By the way, the USA is like 14th in personal freedoms or some shit. Its really not as free as you think it is…

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Nich wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Nich wrote:
Colin Wilson wrote:

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

You should respect all of them because they did something you are either unwilling or incapable of doing. Next time simply say thank you and walk away…

ok just for sake of argument here.
can anyone name atleast one incident in recent history where the us military has deployed in order to directly protect the freedoms of the united states people?

…at least 2 big ones I can remember…

a civil one maybe too…

How bout over in Afghanistan…

how about it,would you please explain?

if I remember my history correctly the only ones were

  1. american revoloution.
  2. american civil war

all other conflicts were us interventions in conflicts that were started and being fought by countries abroad.
am I wrong here?

Pearl harbor and the world trade center were us soil, not to mention US embassies, ships and civilians that have been attacked over seas.[/quote]

pearl harbor was AFTER our involvment in the war before we got involved they did nothing.
WTC was AFTER our involvment into the dealings with the problems in the middle east that has been going on for eons.

everything that has been brought upon the united states was OUR doing
we are the police and the bullies of the world.
we go around telling other countries how to live and what to believe.
and then when we are attacked it is OUR freedoms that are infringed upon.

see this is why it is all the same type of people that belong in the millitary.
why not everyone is “good enough”
I can promise that not one of you that joined pre 9/11 wanted to “protect our country” it was either because of family pressure or it was because you wanted to be a bully your self.

now I am all for the original national guard.
a true vounteer force of “minute men”
people that worked and lived in the community and when something happened in their community then they jumped to arms.

todays millitary is a joke and a disgrace and deep down the more free thinkers know this however when they are allowed to express the veiws they see from the outside looking in the yare shot down by the bullying and eliteism of the millitary themselves.
and this is all I will say about it.

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Nich logic and facts is not allowed in these kinds of discussions

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The only moral thing, then, for you and HangarBaby to do would be to fight on the side of the particular nation we’re bullying at the time. Why don’t you recite the shahada, bow to Mecca, and go join the mujahideen on Iraq or Afghanistan?

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Basically, I have a hard time supporting the majority. I don’t have to support them all, I support the good guys, but then again, I support the good guys ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Its kinda hard to respect a thing that is known for its crimes in everywhere but the USA. I respect my friends, even if they joined for stupid reasons, but if they fuck it up, I won’t support em anymore. Respected until proven otherwise, thats what I say.

Unbelievable.

What is unbelievable is people who forfeit their mind to pride
and become patriotic pigs. There’s nothing wrong with being proud in your country’s accomplishments, but when you are blindly proud even though you country fucks you over, fucks everyone else over, and does it immorally on top of that, it says a lot about your intelligence and your character.

You’re from Minnesota, huh? No surprises there. I’ve encountered several self-righteous narcissists from that state. Gauge restoration? Is that a high-IQ profession?

You’re too ignorant for my liking, I’ll just go ahead and ignore your posts from now on. Go wave your flag proudly, don’t forget to kiss the TV when fox news, george bush, or john mccain make an appearance[/quote]

ROFL

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[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Nich logic and facts is not allowed in these kinds of discussions[/quote]

this country was built on propaganda,lies,and genocide why would I even think factual evidance would hold any weight anyplace?

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
we are the police and the bullies of the world.

The only moral thing, then, for you and HangarBaby to do would be to fight on the side of the particular nation we’re bullying at the time. Why don’t you recite the shahada, bow to Mecca, and go join the mujahideen on Iraq or Afghanistan? [/quote]

no thank you because I dont beleive in ANY form of organised religion.

but being that you do not agree lets discuss this,
in your eyes how are we not?

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this is true, i can’t stand when a person in this country tries to look at situation from a objective perspective and if it differs from being “patriotic” you support the evil terrroists…we have too many sheep in the U.S

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[quote]Nich wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
we are the police and the bullies of the world.

The only moral thing, then, for you and HangarBaby to do would be to fight on the side of the particular nation we’re bullying at the time. Why don’t you recite the shahada, bow to Mecca, and go join the mujahideen on Iraq or Afghanistan?

no thank you because I dont beleive in ANY form of organised religion.

but being that you do not agree lets discuss this,
in your eyes how are we not?

[/quote]

Who says you have to believe in what the religion believes? Hell, I’m sure plenty of Mohammed’s original followers were just in it for the booty( http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/28/blogging-the-qur’an-sura-8-“booty”-verses-1-30/ ). You’ve sort of placed a large moral obligation on your back here with all of your eloquent waxing about America’s evils. You should probably get started in meeting it.

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lol prcal ok how about this.

lets say you own a home,a very large beautiful home.
your only goal in life is to raise the next generation.
you farm,hunt on your land you raise your children.there is several generations of your large family living at your home.

you have no one to answer to but yourself its a peacful life one that you and your family is happy with and have been happy with since the start of your family.

one day you have another family come in,they lived in the ghetto.
they are sick and poor and ill.
you take them in and feed them and nurse them back to health and they go on thier way,new friends.
some stay around and pitch in with life and live amongst your family and become family themselves.

lets say a few years go by and then these people come back again,bringing friends and family and thier friends and family.
this time they are not ill,they have guns.
they say that your home is better than thiers so they want to stay but you have to go because you do not belong.
but its ok you and your family which speak funny to them and do not beleive in thier god and thier ways,you can stay across the street but be sure to give them 98% of your land

they then rape your daughters,your mother,kill your brothers and your father your dead is dug up and tossed into the rivver or a trash pit burned.

they teach your children that your way was wrong and thiers is better.
beleive in thier god or risk not being accepted or possibly being killed like the older members of your family

your home gets burned and crops destroyed and when they can no longer live in the home that they built because of too many people following them they then walk across the street and say ok time for you to move we need new land for deveolpment.they then force you to walk miles away based on fear of death or worse because they do not want to see you because you and your family do not fit in.

they bring with them wars and sickness.
they destroy so much of the land that was once yours that they have to move on and find more land thus pushing you further and further away from your home and when you reach the end they kill most of you and then allocate land that no one wants land that is of no use to them they say ok you san stay here but only if you follow our rules.
if this happened to you what would you do?

so I ask you sir (this is a serious form of respect I am not joking when I call anyone sir or maam), how is this not evil
how is this honorable
how is this a tradition that you are so willing to stand up and fight for.

think about that for a minute
because this is what we all call the birth of the united states.

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[quote]Nich wrote:
lol prcal ok how about this.

lets say you own a home,a very large beautiful home.
your only goal in life is to raise the next generation.
you farm,hunt on your land you raise your children.there is several generations of your large family living at your home.

you have no one to answer to but yourself its a peacful life one that you and your family is happy with and have been happy with since the start of your family.

one day you have another family come in,they lived in the ghetto.
they are sick and poor and ill.
you take them in and feed them and nurse them back to health and they go on thier way,new friends.
some stay around and pitch in with life and live amongst your family and become family themselves.

lets say a few years go by and then these people come back again,bringing friends and family and thier friends and family.
this time they are not ill,they have guns.
they say that your home is better than thiers so they want to stay but you have to go because you do not belong.
but its ok you and your family which speak funny to them and do not beleive in thier god and thier ways,you can stay across the street but be sure to give them 98% of your land

they then rape your daughters,your mother,kill your brothers and your father your dead is dug up and tossed into the rivver or a trash pit burned.

they teach your children that your way was wrong and thiers is better.
beleive in thier god or risk not being accepted or possibly being killed like the older members of your family

your home gets burned and crops destroyed and when they can no longer live in the home that they built because of too many people following them they then walk across the street and say ok time for you to move we need new land for deveolpment.they then force you to walk miles away based on fear of death or worse because they do not want to see you because you and your family do not fit in.

they bring with them wars and sickness.
they destroy so much of the land that was once yours that they have to move on and find more land thus pushing you further and further away from your home and when you reach the end they kill most of you and then allocate land that no one wants land that is of no use to them they say ok you san stay here but only if you follow our rules.
if this happened to you what would you do?

so I ask you
how is this not evil
how is this honorable
how is this a tradition that you are so willing to stand up and fight for.
if we are willing to do this once to start a country and it worked,how are we to beleive that we will never do it again?

think about that for a minute
because this is what we all call the birth of the united states.

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you’ve described the birth of every great nation

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[quote]think about that for a minute
because this is what we all call the birth of the united states. [/quote]

I’m trying to hit a moving target here. Who is “we”?

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[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
think about that for a minute
because this is what we all call the birth of the united states.

I’m trying to hit a moving target here. Who is “we”? [/quote]

more elitism
us against them huh.

this is us history,if you are told anything else then I am sorry

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[quote]Nich wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
think about that for a minute
because this is what we all call the birth of the united states.

I’m trying to hit a moving target here. Who is “we”?

more elitism
us against them huh.

this is us history,if you are told anything else then I am sorry

[/quote]

Who is “we”?