People At My Gym

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[quote]sexyxe wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Besides kettle bell swings what else are you supposed to do with them that you can’t do with a dumbbell[/quote]

Well, to be honest, dumbbell swings were used ~100 years ago even when kettlebells were around.

Bottoms-up presses are good for general grip stability stuff. The closest you can get with a DB is trying to balance it on one end and do a one-armed press, but it’s not quite the same.

Halos (bringing it around the body, handing off hand to hand) and Figure-8s through the legs are good for core stabilization; much harder to do these with dumbbells.

Snatches are different with KBs, mostly because of how you learn to decelerate and not smack yourself in the forearm when it rotates around.

Hand-to-hand swings, where you basically throw it up with one hand, catch it with the other, and reverse.

For everything else… curls, presses, turkish get ups… the kettlebells provide a slightly different load since the weight’s not balanced in your hand, but I wouldn’t say that’s too significant.

For martial arts purposes, I can see a lot more how you’d use kettlebells. For strength and physique goals, they’re just not a great tool.[/quote]

I don’t see how any of that, the core work, that you do with a KB, can’t be done with a different exercise and be as effective if not more. Most of it is stupid, new age BS.
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Funny story - a few years back I was actually in Russia, working with some Russian military . Me and the guys I was with were all jazzed up to talk kettle bells with them, as we were really into using them in our training at that time.

When we mentioned kettlebells, they looked at us like we had 3 heads. We had to describe them and explain the movements - to Russians! Once they finally got it, they said " we just lift weights and run"

That’s when I knew they were more overhyped marketing than some long lost secret

Also the number of shoulder surgeries with my guys went up exponentially after we started using them - mostly (I think) from the KB snatch

Again, useful tool to incorporate sparingly, but not something to base a program around

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I was in the gym a few weeks ago squatting when a bloke walked in and straight up chucked 100kg (225) on the bar in the squat rack behind me.

No warm up or fuck all, starts pumping out half squats. As he increased the weight, the ROM got shorter and shorter, before he ended up with 140kg knee bends. I was watching in fascination between my sets, he was in his late 20’s, so not a young idiot.

The next day, he came in at the same time I was there, same deal but with bench. 100kg straight on the bar, no warm up, half reps. Ended up going to 130 for a quarter bench then strutting around.

I was mystified.

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[quote]02Thief wrote:
I was in the gym a few weeks ago squatting when a bloke walked in and straight up chucked 100kg (225) on the bar in the squat rack behind me.

No warm up or fuck all, starts pumping out half squats. As he increased the weight, the ROM got shorter and shorter, before he ended up with 140kg knee bends. I was watching in fascination between my sets, he was in his late 20’s, so not a young idiot.

The next day, he came in at the same time I was there, same deal but with bench. 100kg straight on the bar, no warm up, half reps. Ended up going to 130 for a quarter bench then strutting around.

I was mystified. [/quote]
hahaha that shit is everywhere. I was lifting with a guy one time who put 225lbs on the bar for bench right away and I said hey you gonna warm up, his response “yeah I just jogged on the treadmill I’m good to go”

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[quote]02Thief wrote:
I was in the gym a few weeks ago squatting when a bloke walked in and straight up chucked 100kg (225) on the bar in the squat rack behind me.

No warm up or fuck all, starts pumping out half squats. As he increased the weight, the ROM got shorter and shorter, before he ended up with 140kg knee bends. I was watching in fascination between my sets, he was in his late 20’s, so not a young idiot.

The next day, he came in at the same time I was there, same deal but with bench. 100kg straight on the bar, no warm up, half reps. Ended up going to 130 for a quarter bench then strutting around.

I was mystified. [/quote]

I hate these idiots. Then they wonder why they don’t grow and still look terrible. These types love to get next to me and try to match me going up in weight and then about kill themselves with a weight doing 1/8th rom reps while I’m pushing through 15-20 reps with it.

I never understood this. Just stupid ego bullshit of yeah man I bencher 315!!! No, no you didn’t.

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]02Thief wrote:
I was in the gym a few weeks ago squatting when a bloke walked in and straight up chucked 100kg (225) on the bar in the squat rack behind me.

No warm up or fuck all, starts pumping out half squats. As he increased the weight, the ROM got shorter and shorter, before he ended up with 140kg knee bends. I was watching in fascination between my sets, he was in his late 20’s, so not a young idiot.

The next day, he came in at the same time I was there, same deal but with bench. 100kg straight on the bar, no warm up, half reps. Ended up going to 130 for a quarter bench then strutting around.

I was mystified. [/quote]
hahaha that shit is everywhere. I was lifting with a guy one time who put 225lbs on the bar for bench right away and I said hey you gonna warm up, his response “yeah I just jogged on the treadmill I’m good to go” [/quote]

Haha it seems like alot of people think that 20 minutes on the treadmill is a sufficent warm-up, I had a guy at my gym once approach me as i was doing some foam rolling and mobility drills and he told me “I don’t know why you’re doing that, it’s a waste of time. It’s alot quicker if you’d just go jog for a little while” I just nodded and did the mhm… mhm…mhm…
People never cease to amaze me

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[quote]stokes1989 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]02Thief wrote:
I was in the gym a few weeks ago squatting when a bloke walked in and straight up chucked 100kg (225) on the bar in the squat rack behind me.

No warm up or fuck all, starts pumping out half squats. As he increased the weight, the ROM got shorter and shorter, before he ended up with 140kg knee bends. I was watching in fascination between my sets, he was in his late 20’s, so not a young idiot.

The next day, he came in at the same time I was there, same deal but with bench. 100kg straight on the bar, no warm up, half reps. Ended up going to 130 for a quarter bench then strutting around.

Even when I first started screwing around with weights in my basement I never felt that I needed to jog or run to warm up for any kind of weightlifting. I know a couple guys who do sit in the sauna for about 5 min before they start lifting, not sure if what is up with that.

I was mystified. [/quote]
hahaha that shit is everywhere. I was lifting with a guy one time who put 225lbs on the bar for bench right away and I said hey you gonna warm up, his response “yeah I just jogged on the treadmill I’m good to go” [/quote]

Haha it seems like alot of people think that 20 minutes on the treadmill is a sufficent warm-up, I had a guy at my gym once approach me as i was doing some foam rolling and mobility drills and he told me “I don’t know why you’re doing that, it’s a waste of time. It’s alot quicker if you’d just go jog for a little while” I just nodded and did the mhm… mhm…mhm…
People never cease to amaze me[/quote]

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Even when I first started screwing around with weights in my basement I never felt that I needed to jog or run to warm up for any kind of weightlifting. I know a couple guys who do sit in the sauna for about 5 min before they start lifting, not sure if what is up with that

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I mean maybe they just like to get a good sweat going before their workout? idk…

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I was that guy today. Snatch grip high pulls and I smacked myself in the chin. Dropped the bar and got lotsa cold stares.

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[quote]lumbahjack wrote:
I was that guy today. Snatch grip high pulls and I smacked myself in the chin. Dropped the bar and got lotsa cold stares.[/quote]

I was doing floor presses today in the gym. The gym does not have a full power rack so I used this method to get into position:

On my last set I bridged a little too explosively and the bar went past my chest and landed on my face. Luckily I had the pad on or it could have been much worse. Nose is kinda tender for some reason.

I didn’t get cold stares. I got smirks and stifled laughter.

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Had a guy today running a circuit, part of which included the one of the two racks in our gym, myself in the other.

When he deigned to stop by, noticing my bar growing ever larger, he would slap more and more weight on it and proceed to do, no bullshit 1/6 squats. I swear a stiff legged calf raise had a better ROM than this guy.

The worst part is, during all this about three people noticed the tumbleweeds blowing by this heavy bar to whom I had to apologetically explain this bozo’s clown circuit.

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[quote]c.m.l. wrote:
Had a guy today running a circuit, part of which included the one of the two racks in our gym, myself in the other.

When he deigned to stop by, noticing my bar growing ever larger, he would slap more and more weight on it and proceed to do, no bullshit 1/6 squats. I swear a stiff legged calf raise had a better ROM than this guy.

The worst part is, during all this about three people noticed the tumbleweeds blowing by this heavy bar to whom I had to apologetically explain this bozo’s clown circuit.[/quote]

I hate people that do this shit. 1/6 to 1/8th ROM and they wonder why their legs are small.

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Even when I first started screwing around with weights in my basement I never felt that I needed to jog or run to warm up for any kind of weightlifting. I know a couple guys who do sit in the sauna for about 5 min before they start lifting, not sure if what is up with that[/quote]

Thats called passive warm up.

I did it all the time when my normal gym had a hotbox. It raises body temp and loosens joints without burning energy…

You might wanna start taking the warm up more seriously…

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]c.m.l. wrote:
Had a guy today running a circuit, part of which included the one of the two racks in our gym, myself in the other.

When he deigned to stop by, noticing my bar growing ever larger, he would slap more and more weight on it and proceed to do, no bullshit 1/6 squats. I swear a stiff legged calf raise had a better ROM than this guy.

The worst part is, during all this about three people noticed the tumbleweeds blowing by this heavy bar to whom I had to apologetically explain this bozo’s clown circuit.[/quote]

I hate people that do this shit. 1/6 to 1/8th ROM and they wonder why their legs are small.[/quote]

I saw a terrible case of this yesterday at my gym. this kid who probably weighed about 130 soaking wet walked up to the squat rack, slapped on four 45’s on each side (so 405) and proceeded to go at it cold, the kicker was that he only went down about 2 inches before coming back up. then one of the more experienced lifters in the gym came up to him and said “you know you should probably drop the weight and get your full ROM” the kid responded by “I know what im doing, i can probably squat more than you do” (and the guy he was talking to was an easy 250lbs) damn kids

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[quote]c.m.l. wrote:
I swear a stiff legged calf raise had a better ROM than this guy.[/quote]

There are actually people in my gym that do that shit on a calf machine and think they are squatting.

It really doesn’t matter to me anymore. I work out with a pretty good core group of powerlifters and we get a few guys that either want to join us or bs with us from time to time. I swear, 99.9% of them can’t legit squat half of what they say they can do. I just ask, was this squat in a meet? Then wait for bank stare?

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[quote]A-rod wrote:
I too shall contribute my own deliriously farcical narrative. I had embarked on an evening of repetitious iron clanging and eager I was to supplant my previous bests. Beta alanine, creatine and perilous amounts of caffeine (and perhaps some horny goat weed as well) were coursing through my veins. My minions blow a tungehorn to announce my arrival to the other gym goers. With the conclusion of my warm-up, which consists of ravaging the cardio-bunnies, I make my way to the room of iron clanging. To my dismay no 45s are available. How am I to squat? It is then I see across the gym. the famed plate’o’saurus rex. All the 45s where stacked on a single barbell just shy of 600lbs. The plate’o’saurus rex stands six feet two inches and weighs 165 lbs. Although this can vary due to climate. The plat’o’saurus rex was performing static holds. Lifting the 600 lb barbell half an inch off the safety bars in the squat rack.

“Doth thou need rack every single 45” I inquire.
“Hast thou seen any sort of progress with such an absurd routine”

Hesitant I am for the plate’o’saurus rex is known for being incredibly fucking stupid.

The plate’o’saurus rex us unused to such inquiring. As it is often avoided by other gym members that know the beast to be fucking weird because who racks 600 lbs for static holds.

None the less the cowering beast mumbles a response

" I have seen plenty of progress."

Intrigued I ask

“Dost tho recall the number of lunar cycles tho hast been doing this fucking retarded program?”

“Tho must realize never on this earth has a man grown from such a routine.”

“Not true” rebukes the beast “Lou Ferrigno and Sergio Olivia did such a routine”

Provoked by such blasphemous allegations I unsheathe my dagger from my scabbard and slay the treacherous beast. No longer will I allow such vermin to squander around in my dominion of iron.

Post work out me and my brethren have an open pit roast. Despite being extremely fucking stupid the plate’o’saurus rex is a great source of protein. [/quote]

600?
so 6 plates a side for 585, all of 12 plates?

You need a new gym…

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The gym I’ve always used is a local council gym at the leisure centre, and whilst I get on very well with a large number of the people there, as I’ve been using the place for around 7 years and know most of them pretty well, it has a lot of drawbacks, many of which come in the form of large groups of 16-19year olds coming in and clogging the whole place up when they are starting out.

Groups of 3-5 guys that rarely tidy up after themselves and make sure to leave no floor space to deadlift, or stand too close to the rack when people are trying to squat. And generally the worst thing a lot of these guys seem to do is think every single one of them is of equal strength. I never see any of these types change the weight on a bar or machine when working with each other.

I imagine I was an annoying douche myself when I started out, so I try to give them a break, but it would be much easier if instructor’s had a quiet word with them during induction about some things not to do in the weight room, so as not to overly irritate people.

But then this could work both ways with a cardio bunny instructor informing a new experienced guy not to use chalk to save him having to break out the vaccuum cleaner. So maybe this idea is best left alone.

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[quote]SickSex6 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Even when I first started screwing around with weights in my basement I never felt that I needed to jog or run to warm up for any kind of weightlifting. I know a couple guys who do sit in the sauna for about 5 min before they start lifting, not sure if what is up with that[/quote]

Thats called passive warm up.

I did it all the time when my normal gym had a hotbox. It raises body temp and loosens joints without burning energy…

You might wanna start taking the warm up more seriously…[/quote]
O I do I just don’t feel the need to jog before I lift.

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[quote]WeeAl1 wrote:
The gym I’ve always used is a local council gym at the leisure centre, and whilst I get on very well with a large number of the people there, as I’ve been using the place for around 7 years and know most of them pretty well, it has a lot of drawbacks, many of which come in the form of large groups of 16-19year olds coming in and clogging the whole place up when they are starting out.

Groups of 3-5 guys that rarely tidy up after themselves and make sure to leave no floor space to deadlift, or stand too close to the rack when people are trying to squat. And generally the worst thing a lot of these guys seem to do is think every single one of them is of equal strength. I never see any of these types change the weight on a bar or machine when working with each other.

I imagine I was an annoying douche myself when I started out, so I try to give them a break, but it would be much easier if instructor’s had a quiet word with them during induction about some things not to do in the weight room, so as not to overly irritate people.

But then this could work both ways with a cardio bunny instructor informing a new experienced guy not to use chalk to save him having to break out the vaccuum cleaner. So maybe this idea is best left alone.[/quote]

I find it ammusing when people use chalk for everything, from bench press to lat pull downs, ive even seen guys use chalk for hammer curls…come on people, using chalk doesn’t make your curls better

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[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:

[quote]SickSex6 wrote:

[quote]bdocksaints75 wrote:
Even when I first started screwing around with weights in my basement I never felt that I needed to jog or run to warm up for any kind of weightlifting. I know a couple guys who do sit in the sauna for about 5 min before they start lifting, not sure if what is up with that[/quote]

Thats called passive warm up.

I did it all the time when my normal gym had a hotbox. It raises body temp and loosens joints without burning energy…

You might wanna start taking the warm up more seriously…[/quote]
O I do I just don’t feel the need to jog before I lift.[/quote]

have you ever witnessed those people who feel the need to jog backwards on the treadmill? i am still trying to figure out what purpose that serves