[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
well then where are the results[/quote]
Figure out who this lifter is in the IPF/USAPL 275 class.
Edit: If I am not mistaken, Joe DeFranco uses a variation of this system to work with his so called “Athletes” and uses it quite successfully.
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
Figure out who this lifter is in the IPF/USAPL 275 class.
[/quote]
one does not prove anything. also what were his lifts before conjugate. also what are his lifts besides a good pull. if 99% of top lifters use one style and 1% use another, which is the superior method
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
well then where are the results[/quote]
I’ve squatted 793 and benched 512 at 220 and my quads and chest are pathetic, lol.
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
well then where are the results[/quote]
Figure out who this lifter is in the IPF/USAPL 275 class.
[/quote]
one does not prove anything. also what were his lifts before conjugate. also what are his lifts besides a good pull. if 99% of top lifters use one style and 1% use another, which is the superior method[/quote]
So, what is your superior method? With all of your 10 posts, and with your initial post being a misquote of Pendlay, tell us something useful.
You also subdue to my point that any system works if you have a plan and stick with it. Do you really know the percentages of who uses what?
Sh*t, go call Louie and whine to him.
Also, learn how to f*cking read before you quote someone!
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
“quads are for bodybuilders”
“the benchpress is not a chest exercise”
Louie simmons
[/quote]
Did you read my post or the article I linked or do you just enjoy being ignorant?? It literally says that Louis instructs any lifters under his tutelage that want to go raw to work on strengthening the quads more and narrow their stance. Also by quoting him saying that the bench is not a chest exercise as evidence of his ignorance just makes you look inexperienced. To a powerlifter, raw or not, the bench is not only a chest exercise. Legs, lats, shoulders, triceps are all involved in the a powerlifters bench. However, did you know that Louis has his raw lifters do repetition work with their feet elevated on the bench to purely strengthen the chest more. If you don’t know all of this I think you need to take a big step back and evaluate whether or not you should be discussing topics that you have no idea about.
I don’t even use the conjugate system, and could really care less about Louis, however, people bashing one persons work from a place of sheer ignorance of that persons work is supremely annoying to me.[/quote]
well then where are the results[/quote]
Figure out who this lifter is in the IPF/USAPL 275 class.
[/quote]
one does not prove anything. also what were his lifts before conjugate. also what are his lifts besides a good pull. if 99% of top lifters use one style and 1% use another, which is the superior method[/quote]
You have not made a single comment in this article that was even an accurate quote. How about you stop trying to twist things, give the whole quote in context.
And by the way, saying you are training Westside without ever having been to Westside and trained is like saying you are drinking Bordeaux from California. Its similar, but not the same. Here is an example of someone Louis actually trained Raw, only example I could find because most of the major competitors at Westside are geared.
And then there is Matt Brown of the UFC, who his opponents and training partners all acknowledge has gotten exponentially stronger recently. That is the time frame he spent at Westside training. Do you think he is doing the same thing as everyone else?? No he isn’t because Louis is a good coach that knows enough to adjust a training program based on needs and what does or does not work.
“exponentially stronger” does not mean shit. getting a guy barely lifts(not saying hes a bad mma fighter i have no idea) “stronger”, means nothing. getting a guy to a 135 bench, even if he was just benching the bar at the start, does not make you a good coach
[quote]Paul33 wrote:
wow westside built my 115 bench. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee[/quote]
Ok you do not like “west-side”. We get it. Offer up something you think is better to support your position. So far your 12 posts have done nothing to better your position. You obviously do not have anything to offer up other than your opinion which doesn’t mean shit becuase you are some random doosh bag from the internet talking shit from behind his keyboard as am I only I am not making incongruously asinine comments about a training system I know little of such as you are. so I bid you adieu and leave you this gem.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Yeah, I dropped the ball on this one. It took all the way some other guy pointing out that he only had 10 posts for it to click.[/quote]
The really sad part is one cannot go by post count. These trolls can post 5K posts in the get a life section about how’d they would “tap dat ass” and other crap just to get their post count higher for some false “street cred”. The inverse of that was Paul Carter, friend of Wendler, logged in here and had a low post count. Some dick actually tried to call him out for that as well. lol.
An even funnier anomaly here is that I’ve seen guys here that act like fools and have accounts on other PL forums that act normal ( same screen name, same avitar). Must be a culture on T- Nation to act like ass hats, but I digress.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Yeah, I dropped the ball on this one. It took all the way some other guy pointing out that he only had 10 posts for it to click.[/quote]
The really sad part is one cannot go by post count. These trolls can post 5K posts in the get a life section about how’d they would “tap dat ass” and other crap just to get their post count higher for some false “street cred”. The inverse of that was Paul Carter, friend of Wendler, logged in here and had a low post count. Some dick actually tried to call him out for that as well. lol.
An even funnier anomaly here is that I’ve seen guys here that act like fools and have accounts on other PL forums that act normal ( same screen name, same avitar). Must be a culture on T- Nation to act like ass hats, but I digress. [/quote]
Very true, but when I called him out on this all ten of his posts were in this thread including his first being the start of this thread, which was a false quote of Pendlay to begin with (it was made some a forum member called 80sMediumSized in Pendlay’s forums.) I don’t have a high post count myself, just felt it was relevant in that this whole argument was initiated on something Pendlay never said in the first place, by someone who just wanted to cover their ears (eyes or whatever) and not attempt to understand any of the arguments against.
I have to work on not getting sucked into this crap.
