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I think that Dana had to cut him because of the before mentioned fight on CBS.
I support him, kick those guys out.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Fuck Kos he deserved it, poor poor Daley.
GSP is scared of Daley that’s why he got cut[/quote]
d00d…lay off whatever substance you are putting in your body…Daley and Dan Hardy train together. I’m glad Daley got booted. This sport isnt for goons. Now that Kimbo’s gone the rest of the goons will realize it.
I liked Daley up until that.
kaisermetal…their has to be some thick sarcasm in your post.
Daley was actually quoted that he wouldn’t fight GSP if he had beaten Koscheck.
I think some of you are missing the bigger picture…what Daley did after the final bell is called ‘assault’ and is a criminal offence. Daley is lucky he wasn’t arrested (he may still be).
To my understanding, James Butler was imprisoned following his assault of Richard Grant (see link). FightinIrish, feel free to correct me if this isn’t accurate.
Kos is an irritating guy but Daley was a disgrace.
I really liked paul dailey before this. The second I saw this I was enraged and wanted to kill the guy. Later I put myself in his situation and could see how it is tough to control your emotions when you care so much about it. Back in the day I had a bad temper and especially post lost understnad what dailey felt . Good wakeup call for me to control my emotions.
I don’t hate paul dailey too much, luckily koscheks not hurt. But in my opinion dailey absolutely should be banned and even short jailtime.
Not sure if the video you posted is the one I am thinking of but PERMANENT damange has been done in cases like this and careers ended by the receiver of the punch. That is uneleivable.
These are TRAINED fighters a sucker punch you are not ready for from one of them has a very good chance of doing something like this.
This sport is dangerouse enough as it is, a career can’t be risked on something like this.
It needs to be known this is absolutely not acceptable, examples need to be made.
In my opinion he should have been tackled down and cuffed on the spot and walked out immediately. Then dana white should have come in announced his ban and that he would be persecuted. Since kos was alright I’d say best of luck to dailey after he did his punishment.
My reasoning is simple show this is absoluetly unaccaptable, all cheaters/ events like this are terrible but in combat sports the goal is to harm the oppenet so cheating is a thousand times as bad. What if dailey got a fine came back, then some other fighter thigures it’s ok does the same and causes permanent brain damage?
Chill dude this shit happens in a lot of other sports too, suspension or even ban from ufc is fine in order to set a precedent but jail time gtfo.
Daley doesn’t deserve to fight anymore, that was rediculous, I hate Kos but come on, who pulls shit like that, dayley is a crapy fighter anyway…
[quote]drewh wrote:
Chill dude this shit happens in a lot of other sports too, suspension or even ban from ufc is fine in order to set a precedent but jail time gtfo.[/quote]
This. Cut him from your org and move on. People are making alot more out of this than it needs to be. Its not even close to as bad as the brawl that happened on strikeforce. It was stupid and he payed for it.
I’m still curious as to what Koscheck said to him in last 10-30 seconds. Not many have touched on this,but Koscheck’s body language looked as if he expected Daley to swing at him.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Chill dude this shit happens in a lot of other sports too, suspension or even ban from ufc is fine in order to set a precedent but jail time gtfo.[/quote]
Whether you want to recognize it or not, what Daley did was assualt. The fight was over and he took an illegal swing. If this was at a bar or anyother public place he would be arrested on the spot. I’m not saying he should do time for it, but it is certainly something to think about. Also, I don’t give a fuck what Koscheck said. Before the fight Daley was calling him a pussy and a fag and Koscheck was being pretty tame in comparison. I’m sure he said something like “who’s the pussy now” and Daley being the spoiled brat that he is couldn’t handle it and took a cheap shot. Obviously that’s just speculation.
Come on you watch enough sports to know that doesn’t matter, is it assault everytime there are cheap shots in hockey. I doubt Kos would press charges either.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Come on you watch enough sports to know that doesn’t matter, is it assault everytime there are cheap shots in hockey. I doubt Kos would press charges either.[/quote]
Dude, you cannot be that dense. Those “cheap shots” are part of the game. If someone slammed someone into the boards on his way to the bench after the buzzer sounded then it would be a cheap shot. These dudes are fighters, and they fight under agreed upon rules. Daley broke those rules and could’ve really hurt Koscheck in the process. Boss said his body language looked like he knew the shot was coming. I don’t think that’s what happened. He turned with his hands down and got sucker punched square in the face, which happened to be Daley’s best shot of the night by the way. I do agree that I doubt Koscheck would/will press charges, but what if he ko’d him with that shot, or worse? Would it be assault then?
[quote]MightyCivil wrote:
I think some of you are missing the bigger picture…what Daley did after the final bell is called ‘assault’ and is a criminal offence. Daley is lucky he wasn’t arrested (he may still be).
To my understanding, James Butler was imprisoned following his assault of Richard Grant (see link). FightinIrish, feel free to correct me if this isn’t accurate.
Kos is an irritating guy but Daley was a disgrace. [/quote]
Don’t know how I missed this before my posts. That’s easily one of the most disgraceful things I’ve ever seen in sports. Don’t know what went on during the fight, but the dude who got sucker punched had his arm halfway around the offender in a congratulatory hug and was completely defenseless. I hope that dude did do time, and was never allowed to box again.
I get what you are coming from, and think the decision made was fine. I get what you are saying about hockey.
I mean like a few months not years. The ONLY reason I say this is for prevention of similar events in the future and protection of the fighters. It didn’t happen this time but every other time I’ve seen a trained fighter post fight (only twice) throw a sucker punch at the face of a unprepared opponent’s face they were knocked out. Seriously some guys get knocked out once and aren’t the same expecially with the head hitting the floor ect. Also this is a combat sport after a high level pro fight mild concussion is likely getting hit again with a full force sucker punch is ultra dangerouse after already takeing some damage.
A fight/ brawl outside of competition is different then a sucker punch.
But again the decision made is the right one I agree with you. I just think that a few months would not be a bad option. i like dailey and am glad he is not in jail. It’s just about prevention to me I wouldn’t care much if not for the chance of seriouse injury and ones career ending. Not to mention horrible for image of the sport. This is my favorite sport it is by far the most technical bs like this has no place being connected to it.
Yes kos definetly won’t press I wouldn’t either this incident wasn’t to bad.
What I am talking about is what I think should be just a known policy that is done to all events such as this. (I.E. throw a punch after a bell get tackled to ground handcuffed walked out jail for a few months (imo life if oppenent is hurt perminently) and immediatley announce they are gone from event. Don’t think this would happen many times before it never did again.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
I’m still curious as to what Koscheck said to him in last 10-30 seconds. Not many have touched on this,but Koscheck’s body language looked as if he expected Daley to swing at him. [/quote]
when the ref pulled him away I heard Daley say something like “but he promised me”. I’m guessing he was expecting kos to bang and not go to the ground and he didn’t stand and bang.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
[quote]drewh wrote:
Come on you watch enough sports to know that doesn’t matter, is it assault everytime there are cheap shots in hockey. I doubt Kos would press charges either.[/quote]
Dude, you cannot be that dense. Those “cheap shots” are part of the game. If someone slammed someone into the boards on his way to the bench after the buzzer sounded then it would be a cheap shot. These dudes are fighters, and they fight under agreed upon rules. Daley broke those rules and could’ve really hurt Koscheck in the process. Boss said his body language looked like he knew the shot was coming. I don’t think that’s what happened. He turned with his hands down and got sucker punched square in the face, which happened to be Daley’s best shot of the night by the way. I do agree that I doubt Koscheck would/will press charges, but what if he ko’d him with that shot, or worse? Would it be assault then?[/quote]
Did you watch the fight because he hit him in the chest. Nobody was hurt and I was not talking about hip checks in hockey.
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
I get what you are coming from, and think the decision made was fine. I get what you are saying about hockey.
I mean like a few months not years. The ONLY reason I say this is for prevention of similar events in the future and protection of the fighters. It didn’t happen this time but every other time I’ve seen a trained fighter post fight (only twice) throw a sucker punch at the face of a unprepared opponent’s face they were knocked out. Seriously some guys get knocked out once and aren’t the same expecially with the head hitting the floor ect. Also this is a combat sport after a high level pro fight mild concussion is likely getting hit again with a full force sucker punch is ultra dangerouse after already takeing some damage.
A fight/ brawl outside of competition is different then a sucker punch.
But again the decision made is the right one I agree with you. I just think that a few months would not be a bad option. i like dailey and am glad he is not in jail. It’s just about prevention to me I wouldn’t care much if not for the chance of seriouse injury and ones career ending. Not to mention horrible for image of the sport. This is my favorite sport it is by far the most technical bs like this has no place being connected to it.
Yes kos definetly won’t press I wouldn’t either this incident wasn’t to bad.
What I am talking about is what I think should be just a known policy that is done to all events such as this. (I.E. throw a punch after a bell get tackled to ground handcuffed walked out jail for a few months (imo life if oppenent is hurt perminently) and immediatley announce they are gone from event. Don’t think this would happen many times before it never did again.[/quote]
That’s why I agree with the ban. No jail time but Dana basically tells all fighters hey you do this you’re gone.
FYI. Worthless scum who should of been killed right after the event on that video. Commited murder a few years later. Lied about it over and over but eventually was proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt.
Ya. Drewh I see what you are saying either solution is pretty good. I agree to very mildly disagree.