Parking Garage Brawl, PRIDE-style

Training
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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]TheChosenOne17 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Eh. The dude tried to sucker punch the black kid who eventually knocked him out. He had plenty of chances to get out of there.

All in the game homey.[/quote]

Yes he deserved to get ktfo, but come on, the kicks to the head after he was already out? You know as well as I do that shit’s not cool.
[/quote]

Not cool? It’s a fucking streetfight, he’s not tiptoeing through the tulips.

You want to play the game, this is the chance you take. I bet you he’d have done the same shit to the other kid had he knocked him out.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that this is the shit that happens.[/quote]

fucking right. u expect rules in a street fight. stay at home and dont get hurt, killed or go to jail.

I work in a busy trauma center, I treat people all the time who are fucked up in street violence.

not 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, 2 things are involved…being out and about between 11 pm and 4 am, and drugs and alcohol.

when these poor bastards are crying for mommy as I staple up their busted heads asking “why did this happen to me”?

I respond by saying “don’t be out and about late at night drinking and smoking, and usually bad shit will not happen to you”

shit, I lived in Richmond Ca for 2 years when I worked at San Quinton prison, that’s the murder capitol of the USA, and I never saw any bad shit because at late at night I was either at work or in my house.

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yup.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]TheChosenOne17 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Eh. The dude tried to sucker punch the black kid who eventually knocked him out. He had plenty of chances to get out of there.

All in the game homey.[/quote]

Yes he deserved to get ktfo, but come on, the kicks to the head after he was already out? You know as well as I do that shit’s not cool.
[/quote]

Not cool? It’s a fucking streetfight, he’s not tiptoeing through the tulips.

You want to play the game, this is the chance you take. I bet you he’d have done the same shit to the other kid had he knocked him out.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that this is the shit that happens.[/quote]

this is the problem with idiots who have never gotten in a fight, besides the shoving match in school…they bump into someone on the street like this that just doesn’t care.

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I think everybody should watch this or something like this… maybe then they’ll think first before getting into a pointless altercation.

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[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
I think everybody should watch this or something like this… maybe then they’ll think first before getting into a pointless altercation.[/quote]

yeah, good point.

that website has about 100 videos to chose from if that one doesn’t work…

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[quote]Sharp4850 wrote:
I think everybody should watch this or something like this… maybe then they’ll think first before getting into a pointless altercation.[/quote]

so true.

you think some scum bag who knocks you unconscious in a street brawl is going to let you just lie there and then walk away, there is no goddamn ref to stop the fight.

more than likely, after you are down and helpless, then you get kicked, stomped and hit again and again, usually by more than one person.

again, I will bring up my experience working in trauma centers, this is usually how people DIE in street fights, it is the head trauma they get AFTER they are down and out. deep brain contusions are inoperable, these poor bastards end up on a breathing machine waiting for there organs to be harvested.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
not 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, 2 things are involved…being out and about between 11 pm and 4 am, and drugs and alcohol.
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I was thinking about this quote late night Heavy, and it’s just so damned true.

Every altercation I’ve ever been involved in, from my first one in kindergarten to the last one outside a bar a couple years ago, could have been avoided. Every single one, I could have walked away from.

I’ve never been involved in a crime or been the victim of an assault… hell, half the time I hit first and was the guilty party.

And honestly, as soon as me and my friends got to the age where we started drinking around 15-16, everything after that involved either booze or drugs to some degree, and all of them were after 11 p.m.

Kinda funny that I never realized any of that before.

The moral of the story though is there’s a time when the wolves are out. Don’t be out with’em.[/quote]

self awareness and introspection is a rare quality, most young people don’t have it and few of us get it as we get older.

I have worked in the ED’s of trauma centers in Atlanta, Oakland, Sacramento, Memphis, Birmingham for over 16 years.

11pm-4am, alcohol and drugs… and yes weed is one of those drugs too, hippies… bad stuff happens.

Don’t be out when the wolves are out…" well said indeed.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]TheChosenOne17 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Eh. The dude tried to sucker punch the black kid who eventually knocked him out. He had plenty of chances to get out of there.

All in the game homey.[/quote]

Yes he deserved to get ktfo, but come on, the kicks to the head after he was already out? You know as well as I do that shit’s not cool.
[/quote]

Not cool? It’s a fucking streetfight, he’s not tiptoeing through the tulips.

You want to play the game, this is the chance you take. I bet you he’d have done the same shit to the other kid had he knocked him out.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that this is the shit that happens.[/quote]

x2

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]TheChosenOne17 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Eh. The dude tried to sucker punch the black kid who eventually knocked him out. He had plenty of chances to get out of there.

All in the game homey.[/quote]

Yes he deserved to get ktfo, but come on, the kicks to the head after he was already out? You know as well as I do that shit’s not cool.
[/quote]

Not cool? It’s a fucking streetfight, he’s not tiptoeing through the tulips.

You want to play the game, this is the chance you take. I bet you he’d have done the same shit to the other kid had he knocked him out.

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying that this is the shit that happens.[/quote]

good point.Jesus that fight as fucking brutal.

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Every stupid kid in the world should read this thread. Thanks Heavy and Irish, for helping me realize some important lessons this early in my life.

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Thanks for sharing, these FEDS fight videos are the shit!

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
not 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, 2 things are involved…being out and about between 11 pm and 4 am, and drugs and alcohol.
[/quote]

I was thinking about this quote late night Heavy, and it’s just so damned true.

Every altercation I’ve ever been involved in, from my first one in kindergarten to the last one outside a bar a couple years ago, could have been avoided. Every single one, I could have walked away from.

I’ve never been involved in a crime or been the victim of an assault… hell, half the time I hit first and was the guilty party.

And honestly, as soon as me and my friends got to the age where we started drinking around 15-16, everything after that involved either booze or drugs to some degree, and all of them were after 11 p.m.

Kinda funny that I never realized any of that before.

The moral of the story though is there’s a time when the wolves are out. Don’t be out with’em.[/quote]

I came to this realization a while ago: Mom was right.

I’ve had my share of streetfights and they’ve all been borderline retarded reasons and all very avoidable. Hell I almost got in a fight at club recently but I’m far too old for that bullshit. I can’t believe the ‘old’ me would have fucked this guy up and waited for him in the parking lot. I simply nodded at the bouncer and pointed at the guy, didn’t even set my drink down… They kicked the dudes WHOLE CREW out. I cleared out maybe 20 dudes (competing dicks) from the club. Easy peezy. Seriously though, start noticing little “mom says” type shit and you’ll see… All of that old wisdom is really based in truth.

  • High school doesn’t mean shit
  • You’ll barely remember her name
  • Nothing good happens after 12 am
  • etc

We can make a list a mile long and its all true my friends.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I have worked in the ED’s of trauma centers in Atlanta, Oakland, Sacramento, Memphis, Birmingham for over 16 years.

11pm-4am, alcohol and drugs… and yes weed is one of those drugs too, hippies… bad stuff happens.
[/quote]

Definitely a drug and should be regulated as such. So disclaimer- I’m not trying to turn this into one of those debates I’m genuinely curious (because of your background): Have you ever encountered any violent crimes where JUST weed is involved. Not weed AND (insert anything), but exclusively just a “I smoked 2 blunts and decided to rob a liquor store” type situation. Comedians and marijuana advocates always joke that weed alone will never lead you to any thing of that nature but I’d like to hear your experience. (PM me if you’d like, so we don’t thread hi-jack)

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
What I don’t understand is why the dude in the first vid threw a couple of punches at that guy, but when his buddy went down he turned and acted like he hadn’t just taken a swing at that dude. That dude caught him slipping and drilled him. The kicks to the head were excessive, but if he didn’t want to fight he should’ve never thrown those first coupla’ punches. The take home message should be if you’re gonna act tough you better fully commit to it.[/quote]

Well you gotta realize that these guys aren’t fighters. Most guys aren’t, and they sure as hell don’t want to get hurt.

Like coyotes, they spring when someone is either not paying attention or already hurt because there’s no risk to it. until something like this happens of course where some gets caught.[/quote]

I get that, I’m just wondering why that dudes sense of self preservation never kicked in. I also think it’s really fucking gay that his buddies got up and ran off while he was getting his head punted like a football.

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jesus, I could never do that to somebody. Well, maybe a couple people. I lied.

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[quote]Xen Nova wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I have worked in the ED’s of trauma centers in Atlanta, Oakland, Sacramento, Memphis, Birmingham for over 16 years.

11pm-4am, alcohol and drugs… and yes weed is one of those drugs too, hippies… bad stuff happens.
[/quote]

Definitely a drug and should be regulated as such. So disclaimer- I’m not trying to turn this into one of those debates I’m genuinely curious (because of your background): Have you ever encountered any violent crimes where JUST weed is involved. Not weed AND (insert anything), but exclusively just a “I smoked 2 blunts and decided to rob a liquor store” type situation. Comedians and marijuana advocates always joke that weed alone will never lead you to any thing of that nature but I’d like to hear your experience. (PM me if you’d like, so we don’t thread hi-jack)[/quote]

I will start it here, if it turns into a hijack we can pm or start a new thread, but it is a good question and I am glad that somebody wants to hear my thoughts on it.

Yes and NO. No that weed is not usually the ONLY drug on board, usually it is a combination,

But Yes that you still cannot exclude it from the mix because almost EVERYBODY who has polysubstance abuse problems, or problems that resulted from having multiple substances in their blood stream, has weed in their system too.

I do a lot of tox screens on people, not just people who are victims of trauma, but patients with a variety of serious acute and chronic, and acute exacerbations of chronic health problems, that ALSO have polysubstance abuse problems,

and you guessed it, weed is one of the drugs in the mix pretty much all the time.

I am not sure I am making sense, redirect me with further questions if I can clarify something.

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Why do I think Irish grew up in the same kind of silly neighborhood as me-

I noticed as a kid I had one friend who was a huge shit talker ,
every time we went out or left the block kid got us all into dumb shit.

Later this same kid was lit on fire- in his own driveway.
Brooklyn was fun not so long ago.

as for weed being the sole drug - and people getting into fights,
do people who hustle and smoke- count?
just saying.

I hate , to use generalizations about any one demographic
so let me preface it by saying that growing up with west indian people
you see allot of weed and allot of hot tempers.

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i love the violence.

the violence is the best part.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:
I have worked in the ED’s of trauma centers in Atlanta, Oakland, Sacramento, Memphis, Birmingham for over 16 years.

11pm-4am, alcohol and drugs… and yes weed is one of those drugs too, hippies… bad stuff happens.
[/quote]

Definitely a drug and should be regulated as such. So disclaimer- I’m not trying to turn this into one of those debates I’m genuinely curious (because of your background): Have you ever encountered any violent crimes where JUST weed is involved. Not weed AND (insert anything), but exclusively just a “I smoked 2 blunts and decided to rob a liquor store” type situation. Comedians and marijuana advocates always joke that weed alone will never lead you to any thing of that nature but I’d like to hear your experience. (PM me if you’d like, so we don’t thread hi-jack)[/quote]

I will start it here, if it turns into a hijack we can pm or start a new thread, but it is a good question and I am glad that somebody wants to hear my thoughts on it.

Yes and NO. No that weed is not usually the ONLY drug on board, usually it is a combination,

But Yes that you still cannot exclude it from the mix because almost EVERYBODY who has polysubstance abuse problems, or problems that resulted from having multiple substances in their blood stream, has weed in their system too.

I do a lot of tox screens on people, not just people who are victims of trauma, but patients with a variety of serious acute and chronic, and acute exacerbations of chronic health problems, that ALSO have polysubstance abuse problems,

and you guessed it, weed is one of the drugs in the mix pretty much all the time.

I am not sure I am making sense, redirect me with further questions if I can clarify something. [/quote]
I was watching Gangland on History channel, and in some of the gangs they would smoke weed to calm their nerves before would go rob a bank/go kill someone etc. drugs affect people in different ways