Palm Strikes (Street Fights)

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:

I never said the shit wasn’t fun. It is. The ones I’ve been in were fun. However, at this point, I can’t afford to get arrested over some jerkoff. I don’t get fucked with by other people, and I don’t go out of my way to start trouble. Like I said…I got nothin to prove.

With a wife and a kid, I think it’s irresponsible to try and be a little vigilante who beats up guys who cut you off…it’s also ridiculous. You don’t get charged with assault? I guess the folks down by you are a bit different than our boys in Jersey, but you get sued at the drop of a hat here, especially for assault.

Don’t get me wrong man, nothin personal…but you seem like one of the assholes I was talking about.[/quote]

Actually, when you wrote that bit about being an asshole, I thought it fit very closely to me. I thought about myself when I read that because I often have trouble letting stupid crap go. And I am a really nice guy known to give the short off my back.

I have thought about it a lot over the years and I think what people do bothers me so much because I go out of my way to be a nice guy. Polite, courteous, always looking out for others. And it really ticks me off when people are straight up jack asses. I think they do it because they know they can get away with it.

Don’t get me wrong, I am 35, and I don’t get in fights any more, at least it has been a few years. And I tend to let stuff go more often and laugh about it. But from time to time, I do jump in someone’s face and stand up for myself.

By the way, I was drinking when I wrote what you responded to, and I apologize if I offended.

I have also been beaten down pretty bad. Got jumped a few times in my life. Once got my upper teeth kicked in (still havent fixed them so they are shorter than other teeth), got some scars on my face from stitches from fighting. I think the pics in my portrait give the tell tale here.

Yea, man it was fun but I have to agree the legal ramifications suck. You get some dude talking all tough about how he is going to beat you down because you spoke up about him cutting in line, then you hit him and the next thing you know he is on the phone with the cops.

No offense taken bro. I know I have problems.

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I just lurk on these boards, but this thread has finally gotten the best of me…

“got some scars on my face from stitches from fighting. I think the pics in my portrait give the tell tale here.”-Where? You’re face looks pretty clean, and your nose is straight. And the best part is…you’re wife lets you know when you can fight…? Why would you even want to bring your wife places where there are so many badasses?

Why have I never seen a “streetfighting” discussion on the internet where someone has lost a fight(except for being jumped, or “197 on 1”)? Do fights not typically have a loser? Do the losers get banned from the internet? Can anyone explain this phenomenon?

What’s so glorious about being a “streetfighter”(i.e. someone who can’t fight for shit, but will eventually find someone weaker or less skilled/sober and proceed to stomp the hell out of them once rendering them defenseless)? If the “streetfighters” that are down in your local jail tonight could fight don’t you think they would be making money fighting instead of having to pay fines to fight?

If you love fighting, then why not become a fighter? Wouldn’t that beat being an obnoxious dumbass who picks on weaklings in a frat house or your local white collar/college bar(or anywhere else outside a ring)?

Newsflash, people that prove to be able to hurt others and gain any kind of reputation can’t go around starting shit or even accepting challenges much b/c others will shoot them. Yes, I would classify jumping on someone for cutting you off in traffic, or bumping into your lat spread in the club as starting shit.

Sorry for the rant, this kind of stuff just amazes me.

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I figure I am too old to start fighting professionally, I am 35 now. By the time the UFC became popular enough to find its way to me, I was over 25 and could not possibly even think about joining the UFC. There are other things I love to do, but I am not doing those either. Does that mean I am lying when I say I really like fishing?

If you look, you will see my teeth are messed up. Yea, not proud of it. Hopefully I will get them fixed one day. Scars under both eyes around the cheek bone area. It just so happens when I went to the hospital and got stitches, I was jumped. Not really my fault it fell like that.

If I didn’t tell it like I see it then I would be fake. It is quite poaradoxical that I tell it like I see it and because I do that on an internet foum it is fake. I have nothing to gain. In fact it seems my thoughts are losing Karma for me. So much for being real.

Never said I bring my wife into hostile situations. I said I have asked her if I can do something, and sometimes she says yes. Sometimes she says no.

I am sorry to hear you have trouble believing that people stand up for themselves, and enjoy fighting, just because they said they do such over an internet forum. Not everyone on internet forums log in and lye to please some sadistic ego trip.

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Pete, I’m younger than yourself so correct me if I’m wrong, but boxing existed when you were younger, correct?

I still don’t see the scars but I’ll take your word for them…I guess. If you take a trip down to your local orthodontist’s office today, I believe you will find plenty of people with messed up teeth. I was not aware that was evidence that those 13 year olds were prolific streetfighters.

I find it funny that you parallel fighting and fishing(for reasons beyond the fact that I can’t see when you have time to fish with all of the fighting you do). Aren’t recreational fishermen known for their tall tales?

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Street fighting has a couple of things that really appeal to a “street fighter”.

The first is the adrenaline rush. There is nothing to get the adrenaline flowing like being in a physical conflict with someone that wants to cause you physical damage.

Second is the feeling of power you get when you beat another human being into unconsciousness or submission. Its a very empowering feeling that goes right down to the primal animal in us.

Yes its stupid and many of us are lucky to have made into our 30s without facing serious repercussions. But the truth is even if you get busted its usually just a night in jail and a low level misdemeanor akin to a traffic ticket.

Boxing and MMA are much different then street fighting too, especially boxing. They are sports that rely on techniques in a defined, controlled setting. Street fighting is about a quick explosion of violence in a chaotic situation.

Its hard to explain to someone, either you get it or you dont. Most guys I know that have fought a lot really dont look for fights, they just dont take much crap.

I am not trying to defend it, I am just trying to explain it a little. In today’s society there is rarely a situation that justifies fighting versus the risks that are out there.

But theres also something to be said about knowing with 100% certainty that if a conflict comes up that I can handle myself. Its a confidence that comes only with experience. I might not always be on the winning side, but if I lose the other guy is going to be feeling it for some time also.

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With all of the streetfighters here, why does nobody challenge Kimbo? Seems to me that would be a pretty good adrenaline rush.

You know, until AngryPenguin told me, I didn’t realize that the combatants in MMA and boxing weren’t in danger of hurting each other, and that they were involved in non-violent contests in comparison to the wars that are waged every weekend between drunks in bars.

Streetfights, for the most part, amount to this(same as schoolyard fights): Talk shit until someone is around to break up anything that happens(police, owner, friends, whatever), wildly flail/wrestle, get broken up, think you are the baddest man on the planet, laugh about pussified boxing and MMA contests, etc.

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[quote]Angrypenguin wrote:
Its hard to explain to someone, either you get it or you dont. Most guys I know that have fought a lot really dont look for fights, they just dont take much crap.
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Bingo.

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[quote]NickViar wrote:
With all of the streetfighters here, why does nobody challenge Kimbo? Seems to me that would be a pretty good adrenaline rush. [/quote]

Those are bare-knuckle boxing matches - not fights. Have you seen the rules Kimbo’s entourage demands you agree to abide by? If you had, you’d realized it’s much more like boxing than an actual fight.

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[quote]NickViar wrote:
You know, until AngryPenguin told me, I didn’t realize that the combatants in MMA and boxing weren’t in danger of hurting each other, and that they were involved in non-violent contests in comparison to the wars that are waged every weekend between drunks in bars.[/quote]

You really are clueless. Anyone who has done both will tell you they feel safer in a ring than in the streets. It’s much more predictable in the ring; there is someone around to stop the fight if you’re getting beatn down; you only have to worry about one guy; there are no knives, etc.

Again, some people enjoy(ed) fighting. Others like lifting weights, playing golf, etc. Different strokes…

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[quote]NickViar wrote:
With all of the streetfighters here, why does nobody challenge Kimbo? Seems to me that would be a pretty good adrenaline rush.

You know, until AngryPenguin told me, I didn’t realize that the combatants in MMA and boxing weren’t in danger of hurting each other, and that they were involved in non-violent contests in comparison to the wars that are waged every weekend between drunks in bars.

Streetfights, for the most part, amount to this(same as schoolyard fights): Talk shit until someone is around to break up anything that happens(police, owner, friends, whatever), wildly flail/wrestle, get broken up, think you are the baddest man on the planet, laugh about pussified boxing and MMA contests, etc. [/quote]

Dont know where you got I said MMA and boxing were pussified, I just said different. Btw I am a big MMA fan and greatly appreciate their skill level, dedication and commitment.

While they both require a lot of dedication and commitment, they dont neccessarily transfer over to street fighting. Just like Lee Murray knocking Tito the hell out on the street, while in a ring Tito would destroy him. This being said, a trained fighter will usually have the advantage.

And when did I say I was the baddest man on the planet. I just explained some reasons while people, not even me neccessarily, street fight. Kimbo would destroy me, but he would destroy many professional MMA fighters and boxers in the street too.

You seem to be taking this personally for some reason. By your descriptions of what you call street fights it is obvious you have never really been in or seen many real ones.

There are people out there that enjoy drinking and fighting and this behavior has exisited for thousands of years. As I said before it is stupid and even if you win there can be serious repercussions.

You sound like the type that thinks practicing BJJ twice a week for a year or two makes you 10X tougher then your average guy on the street. Just like the those taking TMAs did 15 years ago.

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Lee Murray=common “streetfighter”?

Let’s examine:
Murray-Accomplished boxer, now training(and competing in) MMA. Perhaps he knocked Tito out b/c MMA rules favor grapplers(perhaps there was a cheapshot, perhaps he handles his liquor better, etc.). Murray is, and has been a trained and true fighter. Do you think his “streetfighting experience” is what allowed him to KO Tito?
Common “Streetfighter”-Drunk, lifts weights sometimes, watches UFC.
It may be a bit of a stretch but I’m going to give Lee Murray the advantage here.

Do I believe traing “BJJ” twice a week will win a streetfight? No. In fact, you could train BJJ 24/7 and I believe all that training will go straight down the drain when you get hit if that’s all you do and know.

Do I believe that training BJJ twice a week would give someone an advantage over an opponent who internet fights 37 times a week and has a little liquid courage in their system? Yes.

Kimbo’s team insisted on those rules in his fight with the Boston policeman. Him fighting a Golden Gloves Champion boxer who trains in mixed martial arts may be a little different that fighting the average streetfighter. I imagine that they would allow looser rules for most competitions.

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[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
make his face like a target and close his eyes when you hit it.

Will he be screaming with fear, or with fear he’ll be screaming?

10 points to any old school rap fans who can name the title and artist. Petedacook is disqualified since he wrote it in the first place.

(points redeemable for absolutely nothing)[/quote]

N.W.A. – If it Ain’t Ruff

Do I get bonus points for knowing that it’s MC Ren?

Thanks for the heads up D.C.

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
make his face like a target and close his eyes when you hit it.

Will he be screaming with fear, or with fear he’ll be screaming?

10 points to any old school rap fans who can name the title and artist. Petedacook is disqualified since he wrote it in the first place.

(points redeemable for absolutely nothing)

N.W.A. – If it Ain’t Ruff

Do I get bonus points for knowing that it’s MC Ren?

Thanks for the heads up D.C.[/quote]

Nice. I had no idea there was old school gangster rap fans here.

And the album was Strait Outta Compton.