Pain and Gain Movie

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[quote]Elegua360 wrote:

I can’t WAIT for Michael Bay’s remake of American Psycho. That’ll be awesome.[/quote]

LOL. Blood spatter in slow mo with doves and business references.

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There are people here who think this is impossible.

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http://movies.yahoo.com/trailers/red-band/pain-and-gain/

The trailers just keep making this movie look better and better. haha

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[quote]optheta wrote:
http://movies.yahoo.com/trailers/red-band/pain-and-gain/

The trailers just keep making this movie look better and better. haha[/quote]

“I’ll be your stepfather by the end of the weekend.”

LOL

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[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
http://movies.yahoo.com/trailers/red-band/pain-and-gain/

The trailers just keep making this movie look better and better. haha[/quote]

“I’ll be your stepfather by the end of the weekend.”

LOL[/quote]

i actually lol’d this looks pretty fucking awesome

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Review from Fox News:

Excerpt:

I thought Fox News was a conservative organisation that didn’t hire gay guys?

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Review from Fox News:

Excerpt:

I thought Fox News was a conservative organisation that didn’t hire gay guys?[/quote]

At the very least I can agree with them that it was a bad, I wasn’t a fan of the idea, nor the actors, and especially not the director, and it turned out somewhat like I could have predicted. It was ridiculous, dumb, and increasingly less funny. The acting was terrible, just as David O. Russell gave me a reason to admire Wahlberg as an actor, Michael Bay stripped that away posthaste. Dwayne Johnson did terribly also, the characters were awfully scripted and they took the meathead stereotype past the point where it might have been funny, it was just stupid and obnoxious.

For something based on a true story, this was, in the end, less intriguing than some drunk fat boy’s gym stories. In his favour, this is not the worst movie Michael Bay has made, but is that really saying anything at all? I do not recommend wasting time to see this, it was viciously bad and does not deserve the attention it will most likely get.

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Review from Fox News:

Excerpt:

I thought Fox News was a conservative organisation that didn’t hire gay guys?[/quote]

At the very least I can agree with them that it was a bad, I wasn’t a fan of the idea, nor the actors, and especially not the director, and it turned out somewhat like I could have predicted. It was ridiculous, dumb, and increasingly less funny. The acting was terrible, just as David O. Russell gave me a reason to admire Wahlberg as an actor, Michael Bay stripped that away posthaste. Dwayne Johnson did terribly also, the characters were awfully scripted and they took the meathead stereotype past the point where it might have been funny, it was just stupid and obnoxious.

For something based on a true story, this was, in the end, less intriguing than some drunk fat boy’s gym stories. In his favour, this is not the worst movie Michael Bay has made, but is that really saying anything at all? I do not recommend wasting time to see this, it was viciously bad and does not deserve the attention it will most likely get.[/quote]

Yeah, but you’re a film critic who looks at this as some sort of art. I’d see it just to see jacked dudes do ridiculous shit as mindless entertainment.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Review from Fox News:

Excerpt:

I thought Fox News was a conservative organisation that didn’t hire gay guys?[/quote]

At the very least I can agree with them that it was a bad, I wasn’t a fan of the idea, nor the actors, and especially not the director, and it turned out somewhat like I could have predicted. It was ridiculous, dumb, and increasingly less funny. The acting was terrible, just as David O. Russell gave me a reason to admire Wahlberg as an actor, Michael Bay stripped that away posthaste. Dwayne Johnson did terribly also, the characters were awfully scripted and they took the meathead stereotype past the point where it might have been funny, it was just stupid and obnoxious.

For something based on a true story, this was, in the end, less intriguing than some drunk fat boy’s gym stories. In his favour, this is not the worst movie Michael Bay has made, but is that really saying anything at all? I do not recommend wasting time to see this, it was viciously bad and does not deserve the attention it will most likely get.[/quote]

Yeah, but you’re a film critic who looks at this as some sort of art. I’d see it just to see jacked dudes do ridiculous shit as mindless entertainment.

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I guess in that sense it might have a market, but it’s really not even very entertaining in that way either. I can appreciate a pretty stupid but still funny Will Ferrell movie or something, but this is not even that. The Movie 43 movie that came out earlier in the year was somewhat like that (but considerably worse, abhorrently bad even), it’s something I can’t even take the time to appreciate for it’s immaturity. It’s somewhat reminiscent of a Jim Carrey movie, the bad ones. The Ace Venturas and the Bruce Almightys. It’s just so viciously unfunny that it makes me feel bad about myself afterwards, that’s not something anyone should have the displeasure of feeling after spending two hours on.

It seems even the bad movies are spending a lot longer in run time, I remember when I could see a terrible movie and still have that extra half hour left to consider and then back out of the idea of a swift and brutal suicide.

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The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews.

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews. [/quote]

Trust me, I know some very nice bodybuilders, and sometimes I even get my kicks from the big dumb “Planet Fitness” stereotype, this will get bad reviews just because it’s a bad movie. There will be some of the false superiority of the more “sedentary” population, but the disdain for how this turned out will go far beyond just a faulted ad hominem.

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews. [/quote]

Trust me, I know some very nice bodybuilders, and sometimes I even get my kicks from the big dumb “Planet Fitness” stereotype, this will get bad reviews just because it’s a bad movie. There will be some of the false superiority of the more “sedentary” population, but the disdain for how this turned out will go far beyond just a faulted ad hominem.[/quote]

I think I’ll make my own decisions on this one.

To me a critic is nothing more than someone standing on the sidelines trying to garner a few crumbs of attention.

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews. [/quote]

Trust me, I know some very nice bodybuilders, and sometimes I even get my kicks from the big dumb “Planet Fitness” stereotype, this will get bad reviews just because it’s a bad movie. There will be some of the false superiority of the more “sedentary” population, but the disdain for how this turned out will go far beyond just a faulted ad hominem.[/quote]

I think I’ll make my own decisions on this one.

To me a critic is nothing more than someone standing on the sidelines trying to garner a few crumbs of attention.
[/quote]

Feel free to come to your own opinion, I’m open to a contrarian perspective whenever it comes to film, it was just my intention to put up a warning sign so you could spend your time and money on something far more worthwhile.

To me a critic is someone that is passionate enough about something to voice his opinions on a creative endeavour publically in order to introduce others to an exciting and meaningful expression of artistry and cut down any misinterpretation and distrust of said artistry based on a few, avoidable, bad examples of people wilfully destroying potential for the sake of greed and recognition. It is an intent to introduce outsiders to a prominent and life-affirming vision of creative beauty when it arises, whether that be an art critic, a film critic, a technology critic etc. The critic’s intent goes far deeper than to shamelessly bash produced works. But I guess I’ll make my own decisions on that one.

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[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews. [/quote]

Trust me, I know some very nice bodybuilders, and sometimes I even get my kicks from the big dumb “Planet Fitness” stereotype, this will get bad reviews just because it’s a bad movie. There will be some of the false superiority of the more “sedentary” population, but the disdain for how this turned out will go far beyond just a faulted ad hominem.[/quote]

I think I’ll make my own decisions on this one.

To me a critic is nothing more than someone standing on the sidelines trying to garner a few crumbs of attention.
[/quote]

Feel free to come to your own opinion, I’m open to a contrarian perspective whenever it comes to film, it was just my intention to put up a warning sign so you could spend your time and money on something far more worthwhile.

To me a critic is someone that is passionate enough about something to voice his opinions on a creative endeavour publically in order to introduce others to an exciting and meaningful expression of artistry and cut down any misinterpretation and distrust of said artistry based on a few, avoidable, bad examples of people wilfully destroying potential for the sake of greed and recognition. It is an intent to introduce outsiders to a prominent and life-affirming vision of creative beauty when it arises, whether that be an art critic, a film critic, a technology critic etc. The critic’s intent goes far deeper than to shamelessly bash produced works. But I guess I’ll make my own decisions on that one.[/quote]

Not to be a dick, but if your intent is to sound erudite, proper spelling is required. Is English your first language?

I rarely ever see movies in the theater. So here is my problem with most of your message. I view movies and television as largely mindless entertainment. If I want to be mentally challenged I will read Faulkner or some other literary great.

I prefer, crass humor, car chases, satire, violence, ass and titties. Most of the reviews I have read of this film are bashing Micheal Bay for sexism, homophobia, the lack of substantial female roles, and juice-heads.

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/7191-Pain-Gain?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all

It’s not out here yet, but by going by this review, you’re supposed to dislike the characters - they’re self centred dicks

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
The media loves to hate bodybuilders. No matter how good this movie is, it will receive lots of bad reviews. [/quote]

Trust me, I know some very nice bodybuilders, and sometimes I even get my kicks from the big dumb “Planet Fitness” stereotype, this will get bad reviews just because it’s a bad movie. There will be some of the false superiority of the more “sedentary” population, but the disdain for how this turned out will go far beyond just a faulted ad hominem.[/quote]

I think I’ll make my own decisions on this one.

To me a critic is nothing more than someone standing on the sidelines trying to garner a few crumbs of attention.
[/quote]

Feel free to come to your own opinion, I’m open to a contrarian perspective whenever it comes to film, it was just my intention to put up a warning sign so you could spend your time and money on something far more worthwhile.

To me a critic is someone that is passionate enough about something to voice his opinions on a creative endeavour publically in order to introduce others to an exciting and meaningful expression of artistry and cut down any misinterpretation and distrust of said artistry based on a few, avoidable, bad examples of people wilfully destroying potential for the sake of greed and recognition. It is an intent to introduce outsiders to a prominent and life-affirming vision of creative beauty when it arises, whether that be an art critic, a film critic, a technology critic etc. The critic’s intent goes far deeper than to shamelessly bash produced works. But I guess I’ll make my own decisions on that one.[/quote]

Not to be a dick, but if your intent is to sound erudite, proper spelling is required. Is English your first language?

I rarely ever see movies in the theater. So here is my problem with most of your message. I view movies and television as largely mindless entertainment. If I want to be mentally challenged I will read Faulkner or some other literary great.

I prefer, crass humor, car chases, satire, violence, ass and titties. Most of the reviews I have read of this film are bashing Micheal Bay for sexism, homophobia, the lack of substantial female roles, and juice-heads.
[/quote]

Yes, it is. British English is my first language, if you’re going to attempt to put me back on the basis that my language differs from your variant of American English then I’m not sure the point you’re making there holds any real substance at all. Because of course, the extent of the English language does stretch beyond the borders of the United States.

Our perspective on cinema, I guess, is where we predominantly differ here. If you like to be mindlessly entertained and like to watch something mindlessly entertaining, then feel free to do so, and feel free to put up your thoughts on it here in response. If people expect mindless entertainment, then by all means confirm their expectations if you felt pleased by the finished product. All I’m here to do is show them exactly that, that it is a true and intriguing story, turned simplistic and mindless, and is only representative of that.

Some people like to ponder the themes of books and speeches, some people like to ponder the themes of films. All we have to continue to do is clearly represent the different camps we are coming from.

That is not necessarily to say that crass humour, violence, nudity and profanity are by default alien to my preferences. I should recommend Linklater’s “Dazed & Confused” or Martin Scorsese’s “Gangs Of New York”, maybe we can come to an agreement on those.

If those reviewers choose to focus on that then by all means they can, they’re not necessarily wrong. Some of those views are representative of the kind of characters being played in the movie, to an extent I expect all of those things. My issue with it is on it’s meat and bones. It’s scripting, acting, direction, interpretation of events, even editing is profoundly poor in places.

I could care less about the lack of female roles or the sexism, as I am not a feminist, nor do I expect it to fill in politically correct gaps that it doesn’t need to. But the other things I have mentioned, I cannot forgive.

If people go in expecting mindless entertainment, then godspeed to them, I just don’t want them to be disappointed with it, in and of itself, as expecting something more than that.

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Damn Big K,

I love the way you write :slight_smile:

Carry on (in best British accent)

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[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Damn Big K,

I love the way you write :slight_smile:

Carry on (in best British accent)

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That’s very kind of you Marqaos, I do make an effort to be eloquent. :]

Quite right, will do!