Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing. [/quote]
Floyd v. Mosley is supposed to break the richest ppv showing in history (DelaHoya v. Mayweather) and if it does it probably will be brought up in negotiations. Floyds name will be on the two richest fights in history, of course he’s gonna expect more money. Not to mention he has out sold PacMan on all common opponents(DelaHoya, Hatton, Marquez). You can make the argument that it was their name that brought the audience, but it doesnt matter because Floyd Mayweather Jr was on the ticket as well.
Floyd Mosley will NOT break that record. Floyd is a draw but neither have the draw of a Tyson or De la Hoya. The only way I see that record breaking is Pacman vs. Floyd.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing. [/quote]
If Mayweather/Mosley does over a million[it’ll] then Mayweather should definitely have more power in the negotiations, it’s not exactly like Shane Mosley is a PPV giant. Mayweather has also outsold him[Pacquiao] with common opponents.
The lawsuit is irrelevant to the negotiations, the judge can’t say “You can’t ask Pacquiao to undergo more stringent drug testing.”. Floyd Mayweather can put any clause in the contract he wants, Schaefer, Mayweather, and Arum just have to come to an agreement with the terms of the contract.
Sorry the ignorance but boxing doesn’t have steroid testing? I always tought i was stricter than MMA on steroids stuff.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Sorry the ignorance but boxing doesn’t have steroid testing? I always tought i was stricter than MMA on steroids stuff.[/quote]
In professional boxing there’s generally two urine tests; around the beginning of training camp and post-fight.
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing. [/quote]
Floyd v. Mosley is supposed to break the richest ppv showing in history (DelaHoya v. Mayweather) and if it does it probably will be brought up in negotiations. Floyds name will be on the two richest fights in history, of course he’s gonna expect more money. Not to mention he has out sold PacMan on all common opponents(DelaHoya, Hatton, Marquez). You can make the argument that it was their name that brought the audience, but it doesnt matter because Floyd Mayweather Jr was on the ticket as well.[/quote]
You have a point with the common oppenents. Pacquiao keeps gaining steam though and the combination of the two in revenue will(if it ever happens) be greater than the individual draw of either, anyway. What I was saying is that I don’t think the Pacquiao-Clottey fight will change negotiations. The money part was surprisingly smooth and I think it will be if/when negotiations start again. Despite the “death of boxing” and the popularity of mma and the poor economy, boxing ppv’s have been doing well and I think Mayweather-Mosley will sell very well. Don’t know about records but probably better than forecast.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing. [/quote]
If Mayweather/Mosley does over a million[it’ll] then Mayweather should definitely have more power in the negotiations, it’s not exactly like Shane Mosley is a PPV giant. Mayweather has also outsold him[Pacquiao] with common opponents.
The lawsuit is irrelevant to the negotiations, the judge can’t say “You can’t ask Pacquiao to undergo more stringent drug testing.”. Floyd Mayweather can put any clause in the contract he wants, Schaefer, Mayweather, and Arum just have to come to an agreement with the terms of the contract.[/quote]
It’s not likely, but if Pacquiao dropped the lawsuit or Floyd settled out of court it would be a sign of weakness and affect the negotiations. I also think that if the testing leading up to Mayweather-Mosley is a fiasco or if it goes smoothly and others even take it up, that will affect negotiations. That is what I meant.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Sorry the ignorance but boxing doesn’t have steroid testing? I always tought i was stricter than MMA on steroids stuff.[/quote]
It depends on where the fight is held, but yes, boxing has steroid(and other performance drug) testing. In this case one fighter wanted much stricter testing than usual, possibly as a power ploy, and the other boxer said no. They countered and negotiated but things still fell apart.
We want Mayweather!
[quote]drewh wrote:
Floyd Mosley will NOT break that record. Floyd is a draw but neither have the draw of a Tyson or De la Hoya. The only way I see that record breaking is Pacman vs. Floyd. [/quote]
I agree.
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
[quote]Pretzel Logic wrote:
Pacquiao sold 700,000 PPVs pretty much by himself and they sold 6,000 more tickets than were prepared for, so I’d say Pacquiao’s selling ability is as hot as ever right now. Also, Arum is going to want to put the fight in Cowboys stadium and most people are going to agree with him. Floyd likes to fight in Vegas. I don’t think either will really have anymore upper hand in negotiations than the first time unless something happens with the lawsuit, or this new(for boxing) drug testing. [/quote]
If Mayweather/Mosley does over a million[it’ll] then Mayweather should definitely have more power in the negotiations, it’s not exactly like Shane Mosley is a PPV giant. Mayweather has also outsold him[Pacquiao] with common opponents.
The lawsuit is irrelevant to the negotiations, the judge can’t say “You can’t ask Pacquiao to undergo more stringent drug testing.”. Floyd Mayweather can put any clause in the contract he wants, Schaefer, Mayweather, and Arum just have to come to an agreement with the terms of the contract.[/quote]
It’s not likely, but if Pacquiao dropped the lawsuit or Floyd settled out of court it would be a sign of weakness and affect the negotiations. I also think that if the testing leading up to Mayweather-Mosley is a fiasco or if it goes smoothly and others even take it up, that will affect negotiations. That is what I meant. [/quote]
Roach said they’d drop the lawsuit if Mayweather drops the testing clause.