The Diaz vs Soto fight was a joke. I’ve never seen so many supermans thrown in a professional boxing match in my life. Maybe even in an amateur boxing match. That was just bad.
What a load of piss. I can’t believe I took a day off work for that. Where does Clottey go from here? I wouldn’t have minded so much if it wasn’t for the fact that he himself made such a deal about being a warrior, about wanting to FIGHT…was it stage fright? I mean really - did the occasion just get to him? Or was that his ‘plan’…thank god Manny actually pressed the action, took chances when he didn’t have to - exactly what Clottey refused to do…
2 best parts of the fight for me were in the 4th round when Pac hit Clottey with both fists at the same time on the side of his head. Hilarious. And I believe in the 9th round when Lampley kept saying bang, bang, bang, bang, bang over and over again when Pac was hitting Clottey.
It’s sad when your corner tells you you’re losing every round and need a KO and you still won’t open up and take a chance to be a champion.
[quote]fnf wrote:
It’s sad when your corner tells you you’re losing every round and need a KO and you still won’t open up and take a chance to be a champion.[/quote]
That’s not just true of this fight, but fight sports in general these days. Guys, especially in the heavier weight classes, don’t want to engage and risk getting their head knocked off. I’m not sure how to fix it either. Maybe a Dana White style knockout bonus, but bigger, like half the purse?
[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
[quote]fnf wrote:
It’s sad when your corner tells you you’re losing every round and need a KO and you still won’t open up and take a chance to be a champion.[/quote]
That’s not just true of this fight, but fight sports in general these days. Guys, especially in the heavier weight classes, don’t want to engage and risk getting their head knocked off. I’m not sure how to fix it either. Maybe a Dana White style knockout bonus, but bigger, like half the purse?[/quote]
True. Can you imagine Dana White in the corner. You mother fucker, you want to fucking win this fucking fight, you fucking better KO this fucking f*aggot.
Someone want to post a link to this please? I was on the road and couldn’t watch it!
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
The whole event was boring as hell. Even the undercards was the worst set of fights I’ve ever seen.
Well, a win is a win. And one of the announcers made a very interesting point IMO… If Pac fights mayweather, it will be reminiscent of this fight - him just covering up most of the time. SO… I think a date with Mosley would be a better bet in terms of fire works, cuz Shane wouldn’t mind throwing down with Pac.[/quote]
Come on really? you think “IF” Mayweather were behind on points he wouldnt engage Manny? That is saying if he were to be behind in points against Manny, but that wouldnt be the case. Pacquiao would be playing catch up the whole fight making his ability to KO floyd very intriguing.
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
The whole event was boring as hell. Even the undercards was the worst set of fights I’ve ever seen.
Well, a win is a win. And one of the announcers made a very interesting point IMO… If Pac fights mayweather, it will be reminiscent of this fight - him just covering up most of the time. SO… I think a date with Mosley would be a better bet in terms of fire works, cuz Shane wouldn’t mind throwing down with Pac.[/quote]
Come on really? you think “IF” Mayweather were behind on points he wouldnt engage Manny? That is saying if he were to be behind in points against Manny, but that wouldnt be the case. Pacquiao would be playing catch up the whole fight making his ability to KO floyd very intriguing.[/quote]
Well, guess we’re just gonna have to wait till Floyd gets the sand out of his vag and actually man up to fight Manny.
Didn’t watch it, but from what I’ve heard it went exactly how I thought it would. Clottey never gets KO’d but doesn’t throw enough to win anything.
There is nothing in Clottey’s last fights that made me think he had any reason to do well against a busy fighter like Pac.
And I believe in the 9th round when Lampley kept saying bang, bang, bang, bang, bang over and over again when Pac was hitting Clottey.
Haha, one of the finer moments in the great Lampley’s commentating career.
You can at least give Clottey props for staying in it. By the end he was looking like he was drunk from all the body shots. Also did anyone see Pac perform a song on Jimmy Kimmel, funny stuff. He’s also in a movie called Wapacman or something like that.
[quote]Beershoes wrote:
Someone want to post a link to this please? I was on the road and couldn’t watch it![/quote]
You reallllly don’t want to see this.
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
The whole event was boring as hell. Even the undercards was the worst set of fights I’ve ever seen.
Well, a win is a win. And one of the announcers made a very interesting point IMO… If Pac fights mayweather, it will be reminiscent of this fight - him just covering up most of the time. SO… I think a date with Mosley would be a better bet in terms of fire works, cuz Shane wouldn’t mind throwing down with Pac.[/quote]
There’s no way Pacman would attack floyd as openly as he did Clottey. Mayweather doesn’t just block, he steps back and jabs. He’s significantly faster and stronger than clottey, Clottey was hitting pacquaio with straight stiff slow right hands, mayweather will have a party on his face.
I have yet to see why everyone is so caught up in pacquiao. He’s had one good fight in margarito, marquez first one was good and actually many give it to marquez. he lost to morales before ko’n him, and de la hoya was well into promoting by time he fought him. Do people not understand what it means to be underfeated?
How is someone with 3 losses pound for pound better than someone with none. People have the nerve to say he hasn’t fought anybody. Oh how quickly we forget everybody was the shiznit before they fought him. Hatton was the second coming of balboa until he met floyd.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
The whole event was boring as hell. Even the undercards was the worst set of fights I’ve ever seen.
Well, a win is a win. And one of the announcers made a very interesting point IMO… If Pac fights mayweather, it will be reminiscent of this fight - him just covering up most of the time. SO… I think a date with Mosley would be a better bet in terms of fire works, cuz Shane wouldn’t mind throwing down with Pac.[/quote]
There’s no way Pacman would attack floyd as openly as he did Clottey. Mayweather doesn’t just block, he steps back and jabs. He’s significantly faster and stronger than clottey, Clottey was hitting pacquaio with straight stiff slow right hands, mayweather will have a party on his face.
I have yet to see why everyone is so caught up in pacquiao. He’s had one good fight in margarito, marquez first one was good and actually many give it to marquez. he lost to morales before ko’n him, and de la hoya was well into promoting by time he fought him. Do people not understand what it means to be underfeated?
How is someone with 3 losses pound for pound better than someone with none. People have the nerve to say he hasn’t fought anybody. Oh how quickly we forget everybody was the shiznit before they fought him. Hatton was the second coming of balboa until he met floyd.[/quote]
Margarito? do u mean cotto? marg never fought pac. In my opinion(regarding your question about the 3 losses and p4p spot) Recently, pacquiao has been impressing with his ability and developments as a boxer. When floyd retired, someone had to grab his spot. Manny did. If floyd didnt retire, he probably would still have the #1 spot, with pac #2. Being undefeated isn’t everything and you really can’t base p4p status on that. Leonard lost, ali lost, robinson lost, all great p4p fighters(ali wasn’t ever #1 though…i dont think) lost matches. calzaghe retired with his 0, so did marciano, and even now chavez jr. is 41-0. Is he #1 p4p? no of course not because being undefeated isnt the deciding factor. Your losses shouldn’t define you, but how you come back should, and how manny came back from losses is one of the reasons he has so many fans. Great for floyd if he remains unbeaten, but no it dosen’t make him the best.
The fight went exactly how I expected, it wasn’t even hard to predict. There’s a reason Clottey has the reputation of not doing enough to win a fight then complaining about getting robbed; he can’t transition from defense to offense. He’ll just take shots and return a 3 at the most, and anytime someone takes the fight to him he just covers up.
This fight was just hyped up, period. If you’ve watched Clottey fight you’d be able to know what would happen without even needing to watch the fight: Pacquiao by UD.
As for this fight being a comparison to a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight: No. We’re talking two polar opposites when it comes to defense, Clottey is no Mayweather. Not to mention that Mayweather is a more intelligent fighter with faster hands. I really think this fight can come back to hurt Pacquiao too, if Mayweather/Mosley outsells it and Mayweather beats Mosley he’ll probably want a bigger split of the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight.
When you couple that with him demanding testing, Pacquiao isn’t going to have much of a choice but to make serious concessions. And with the rematch clause Mayweather takes away Pacquiao’s only viable fight leaving him with no one to fight but Mayweather.
I think people will be wary of buying a Pacquiao PPV without knowing much about his opponent too, because the whole card for Pacquiao/Clottey really was a let down.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
The fight went exactly how I expected, it wasn’t even hard to predict. There’s a reason Clottey has the reputation of not doing enough to win a fight then complaining about getting robbed; he can’t transition from defense to offense. He’ll just take shots and return a 3 at the most, and anytime someone takes the fight to him he just covers up.
This fight was just hyped up, period. If you’ve watched Clottey fight you’d be able to know what would happen without even needing to watch the fight: Pacquiao by UD.
As for this fight being a comparison to a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight: No. We’re talking two polar opposites when it comes to defense, Clottey is no Mayweather. Not to mention that Mayweather is a more intelligent fighter with faster hands. I really think this fight can come back to hurt Pacquiao too, if Mayweather/Mosley outsells it and Mayweather beats Mosley he’ll probably want a bigger split of the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight.
When you couple that with him demanding testing, Pacquiao isn’t going to have much of a choice but to make serious concessions. And with the rematch clause Mayweather takes away Pacquiao’s only viable fight leaving him with no one to fight but Mayweather.
I think people will be wary of buying a Pacquiao PPV without knowing much about his opponent too, because the whole card for Pacquiao/Clottey really was a let down.[/quote]
Mayweather/Mosley will definitely outsell Pac/Clottey. May is one of the best at selling a fight. Either you love him and want him to continue his unbeaten streak, or see his shit-talking ass get knocked out. And Mosley just whipped up on Margarito when Margarito was at his peak, so he can hurt Mayweather. It’s a matter of Mosley cutting the ring off. People want to see if Mosley’s 37 year old ass can pull it off.
Don’t get it twisted, Pac doesn’t need Mayweather. He’s already mentioned with the greatest fighters of all time whether Pac haters like it or not. Also he’s got enough money to retire right now. He lives in the P.I where his $12 million on his last fight can last a lifetime. Mayweather with his extravagant lifestyle needs this fight and the money it can generate more.
Hurting Margarito doesn’t mean he can hurt Mayweather, Margarito’s only real defense is absorbing all the blows with his face.
People really downplay Pacquiao’s need for the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight. Everyone could use more money, especially a person that gives away so much and is looking to get into politics. The Floyd fight will be the biggest payday of his career. If he doesn’t take the fight people will question him too, because I’ve never heard of any fighter refusing to fight because of drug testing. Beating Mayweather would also mean a lot to Pacquiao’s career, Mayweather will be the best fighter he’s faced and if Pacquiao wins he’ll move up on the all time P4P list. They both have something to gain from the fight.
If the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight doesnt happen it will be a black mark on both of there careers. Yeah Pac has accomplished alot, but if he doesnt fight Floyd and retires, there will always be that question of who really was P4P king…Same can be said about Floyd.
At first it didnt look like Manny needed Mayweather, but the anticipation of this fight has gotten so big that both fighters now need each other to cap off two HOF careers. I also agree with GoldenGloves that this whole situation looks like its playing right into Mayweather’s hands.
With these 2 fighters and their managements ego’s, I don’t think this fight will ever happen.
[quote]fnf wrote:
With these 2 fighters and their managements ego’s, I don’t think this fight will ever happen.[/quote]
I think the biggest problem is Bob Arum, Bob Arum is never going to try to work with Mayweather. Unless Roach tells him Mayweather is the only fighter they’re looking for Arum will just go into negotiations halfhearted and let the fight slip away again.