P+C on non-workout days

J.B reccomends P+C meals are to be eaten within 6 hours after your workout and i’m wondering how many P+C meals i’m supposed to eat on non-workout days and what at what times. This theroy also challenges many peoples idea to eat porridge oats for breakfast which is somthing I did for years, what do you guys do?

I have great success eating P+C on training days after workout as you described and P+F for the other meals. Conversly, on non training days I eat all my P+C meals in the AM and P+F in the PM. That way I am assured I should burn the carbs through my regular daily activity.
Hope that helps.

Always have a P + C meal for breakfast, regardless of the day. On training days, eat the other 2 P+C meals after training; non-training days, eat them as your first three meals. You could even stagger the approach, but the MUSTS are:

1. Eat a P+C meal for breakfast

2. Eat a P+F meal before bed

3. Eat a P+F meal 60-120 minutes before your training

4. Consume a P+C shake (SURGE) immediatly before/during and after your training

Train hard, JM

Sorry to hijack, but JM, are you saying that you think one should make one’s last meal P+F even if it’s the only one one gets in (after post-workout Surge, that is) before bed? If so, could you explain your logic? I posted about this a little while ago, and the consensus (which made intuitive sense and has worked out fine for me so far) was that in this situation one should go P+C, as post-workout anabolism is more important than nocturnal anti-catabolism (some of which you’ll get from the P+C meal anyway).

Depends on your goals. If you are dieting, I would certainly have the P+F meal, but if you are in a bulking phase and train later in the evening, then P+C would be okay in that circumstance. P+F is ideal before bed, however.

-JM

Joel, I totally agree about the carbs for breakfast thing. I was just wondering what percentage ratio of Fat-Carbs-Pro you use? Also, do you eat an even amount of Pro+fat, and Pro+carb meals?

This varies greatly with the type of diet i’m utilizing and my goals, but for a maintenance or a natural bulk I’ll use the following calculations:

P= 1.25-1.5g/lb of LBM

F= 25-30% of my total calories

C= the rest

I'll consume 3 P+C and 3 P+F meals in this case. If i'm on a diet which heavily restricts caloric and/or carb intake, then I may only have 2 P+C meals, or I may throw in some high-fiber veggies in w/ a P+F meal.

-JM

You want P+C Meals in the mornig and or the first 3 meals and P+F before bed. HOWEVER no matter what you are doing if you weight train at night your last 2 meals will be P+C! ALWAYS HAVE 2 P+C right afer and soon after training day or night.