[quote]football061 wrote:
Just electrify your doorknob at night. That will really make them think twice after they get the shit shocked outta them.[/quote]
The sad thig is it was 3:30 in the afternoon, and tring to come in through the bedroom window
[quote]Sxio wrote:
Why don’t you upgrade your apartments security instead?
Bars on windows, alarms etc.
Do you really want your gf grabbing a gun to defend herself? There’s pretty good odds that that’s going to get really bad for everyone involved. [/quote]
Well i went out and got bars to stop the window from being lifted. But again I wouldnt let my gf use a gun or possibly go into a situation were she had to use one with out trainning.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Himora22 wrote:
So I have never been one to care weather or not I owned a gun. Never felt the need to, But yesterday someone tried to break in to my apt. luckily I was home at the time and scared the guy off. But now I feel like I need to get one, not for me so much as for my girlfriend who lives with me. I’m in the Army so I know how to use a gun and have no problem teaching her how to use one.
But it just pisses me off that now I have to go out and spend my money that I…!!!WORK FOR!!!.. b/c some mother fuck is too lazy to go out and work for his own shit. Unfortunately there is no self-defense law in NC so if you shoot and kill someone it is manslaughter and you go to jail. But I really dont care next…if there is a next time, I will shoot that mother fucker.
Here’s my $.02, which may have already been said, but I stopped reading after a few responses. First off, I’m very sorry you and your girlfriend were put in such a bad situation as having someone break in your home. It’s never happened to me, but I’m sure you two are feeling angry and vulernable, hence the urge to buy a firearm for protection.
Now I’m a fan of owning firearms as much as anyone, but I feel that purchasing one reactively because of a traumatic event isn’t the best idea. I’m not going to tell you not to buy a gun, just don’t rush to buy one. Give it at least a week.
I guess the biggest reason why I’m saying this is because in your state there is no “castle doctrine” or whatever they call it these days. If you lived in my state where it is legal to defend your home, I’d say happy hunting. That’s not the case for you. Saying you’ll shoot the MF’er sounds like the right thing to say anyway, but what if it did happen? If you only injure him you’re not only looking at criminal charges, but who knows how much money in damages from the inevitable lawsuit from the intruder. Yes, that’s fucked up but it would happen.
Just give it a little time, that’s all.
Oh, if you do decide to get a gun, I’d go with a .38spl revolver. Idiot-proof, more than enough power to get the job done at 10-20 feet, and if you miss you’ll still blind the son-of-a-bitch from the muzzle blast.
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Thanks for your concern. I have a few friends that are cops and talked to them alittle about it today. Even though there is no “castle doctrine” here there arnt any judges that would convict you of anything with in limits.
But ya im angry but its really not me im concerned about, my gf has some mace she keeps with her and I really wouldnt expect her to use the a gun even if it were there but I do want that option open to her.
I really want one so i can keep said person from running next time b/c that is what burns me more than anything is that this person will get away with it.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Here’s my $.02, which may have already been said, but I stopped reading after a few responses. First off, I’m very sorry you and your girlfriend were put in such a bad situation as having someone break in your home. It’s never happened to me, but I’m sure you two are feeling angry and vulernable, hence the urge to buy a firearm for protection.
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+1. Great point. If you and your girl are getting this gun reflexively and aren’t going to actively train with it then you probably shouldn’t buy it.
That said, I’m hesitant with mace. That shit isn’t going to do anything other than piss off her attacker.
mike
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
+1. Great point. If you and your girl are getting this gun reflexively and aren’t going to actively train with it then you probably shouldn’t buy it.
That said, I’m hesitant with mace. That shit isn’t going to do anything other than piss off her attacker.
mike[/quote]
Come on guy read what I write before you give me advise.
Any one know what a Schuetzenschnur is? No? Its not very common so I’ll fill you in. Now I’m not blowing my own wisel here b/c i really dont like to talk about the Army. The Schuetzenschnur is a German weapons qualification that U.S. solders can get if they qualify with a number of German firearms. I have qualified with most US Army weapons and German weapons so we can stop with the “aren’t going to actively train” stuff. I have had more than enough training and i say again…
I would not let my gf use or go into a situation where she had to use a gun without training.
Mikeyali Im not picking on you really. I just want the every to know that I have used and Fired more rounds and differnt guns than most ppl could imagen. And odds or in my favor, I dont miss often. But now this my be my fault for not elaborating but I thought by just saying im in the Army would have eliminated the “lack of traning” comments.
So if there was any confusion I am sry.
[quote]Himora22 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Here’s my $.02, which may have already been said, but I stopped reading after a few responses. First off, I’m very sorry you and your girlfriend were put in such a bad situation as having someone break in your home. It’s never happened to me, but I’m sure you two are feeling angry and vulernable, hence the urge to buy a firearm for protection.
+1. Great point. If you and your girl are getting this gun reflexively and aren’t going to actively train with it then you probably shouldn’t buy it.
That said, I’m hesitant with mace. That shit isn’t going to do anything other than piss off her attacker.
mike
Come on guy read what I write before you give me advise.
Any one know what a Schuetzenschnur is? No? Its not very common so I’ll fill you in. Now I’m not blowing my own wisel here b/c i really dont like to talk about the Army. The Schuetzenschnur is a German weapons qualification that U.S. solders can get if they qualify with a number of German firearms. I have qualified with most US Army weapons and German weapons so we can stop with the “aren’t going to actively train” stuff. I have had more than enough training and i say again…
I would not let my gf use or go into a situation where she had to use a gun without training.
Mikeyali Im not picking on you really. I just want the every to know that I have used and Fired more rounds and differnt guns than most ppl could imagen. And odds or in my favor, I dont miss often[/quote]
My mistake. I mostly speak in generalities in instances like this for the benefit of those that aren’t in your exact situation but are considering the same actions as yourself. It just needs to be consistently drilled in people’s heads that they have to train with a firearm if they are going to buy one. I trust you know this as well as anyone.
mike
[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Himora22 wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Here’s my $.02, which may have already been said, but I stopped reading after a few responses. First off, I’m very sorry you and your girlfriend were put in such a bad situation as having someone break in your home. It’s never happened to me, but I’m sure you two are feeling angry and vulernable, hence the urge to buy a firearm for protection.
+1. Great point. If you and your girl are getting this gun reflexively and aren’t going to actively train with it then you probably shouldn’t buy it.
That said, I’m hesitant with mace. That shit isn’t going to do anything other than piss off her attacker.
mike
Come on guy read what I write before you give me advise.
Any one know what a Schuetzenschnur is? No? Its not very common so I’ll fill you in. Now I’m not blowing my own wisel here b/c i really dont like to talk about the Army. The Schuetzenschnur is a German weapons qualification that U.S. solders can get if they qualify with a number of German firearms. I have qualified with most US Army weapons and German weapons so we can stop with the “aren’t going to actively train” stuff. I have had more than enough training and i say again…
I would not let my gf use or go into a situation where she had to use a gun without training.
Mikeyali Im not picking on you really. I just want the every to know that I have used and Fired more rounds and differnt guns than most ppl could imagen. And odds or in my favor, I dont miss often
My mistake. I mostly speak in generalities in instances like this for the benefit of those that aren’t in your exact situation but are considering the same actions as yourself. It just needs to be consistently drilled in people’s heads that they have to train with a firearm if they are going to buy one. I trust you know this as well as anyone.
mike
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LoL. np and yes I understand.
[quote]Mr2Geez wrote:
Diablo9845 wrote:
On some stupid wording of the Firearms act in Canada, these Dlask versions of Remington 870s with 8.5 inch barrels are legal. Some guys have even made holsters for them, but since you can’t carry in Canada, its pretty useless. The spray out of an 8.5 inch barrel would be enough to fill your apartment. No aim required! haha
That is awesome. I have a 12ga Mossberg with a pistol grip. How hard would it be for me to re-create this?[/quote]
I don’t that’s a good idea. Short barreled shotguns (under 18 inches) and/or an overall length less that 26 inches in the US are federally regulated. Manufacturing your own without a tax stamp is a federal crime.
http://www.atf.treas.gov/docs/Identification_of_Firearms_pt1.pdf
Ya I agree, don’t attempt it if you live in the USA. In Canada, the law says you cannot have a stock modification, via folding, collapsing or other, that drops the overall length below a certain measurement. For non-restricted guns that aren’t semi-auto (bolt/pump hunting rifles and shotguns) the only legal requirement is that they fulfill the overall length requirement.
Sooo… it doesn’t say anything about manufacturing a pump gun with an 8.5 inch barrel. Thats legal. But if I took my 16.5 inch Remington and put a folding stock on it, then its illegal.
Get a dog, i have a dog and he can totally tell when someone is scared or sore at me. The other day the neighbor lady(who he normally likes) came to yell at me about something and i thought he was gonna kill her(I grabbed him before he could get her but he was pissed) and I didnt even realize she was mad, I thought she was running down because of some emergency, but it was because the other dog was pooping in her yard, we got a handle on that tho.
He also likes to chase me and my family members when we pretend to sneak (kinda like a cartoon). You can get a gun too, so while your rott or pitbull are ripping the guys balls off you can pull your 6 gun and go John Wayne on his ass.
Just a thought you said you were looking for a gun for home protection you should check out High Point, they are ugly and a little loose but they are cheap and accurate as hell, they are covered by a no matter what warranty and by cheap I mean under $150.
http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/handguns/hi_point_handguns.html
Check them out.
[quote]Himora22 wrote:
So I have never been one to care weather or not I owned a gun. Never felt the need to, But yesterday someone tried to break in to my apt. luckily I was home at the time and scared the guy off. But now I feel like I need to get one, not for me so much as for my girlfriend who lives with me. I’m in the Army so I know how to use a gun and have no problem teaching her how to use one.
But it just pisses me off that now I have to go out and spend my money that I…!!!WORK FOR!!!.. b/c some mother fuck is too lazy to go out and work for his own shit. Unfortunately there is no self-defense law in NC so if you shoot and kill someone it is manslaughter and you go to jail. But I really dont care next…if there is a next time, I will shoot that mother fucker.[/quote]
If you’re getting a gun for home defense get a shotgun.
In regards to the effectiveness of mace cans, check out this product: Life-Act.com is for sale | HugeDomains
Made by Kimber Arms (a maker of higher-end guns, particularly 1911’s), the guardian angel carries two shots of OC spray (the successor to mace) which are shot via propellant from the device at 90 mph and effective up to 13 feet.
This thing is small enough to carry in a pocket (on person when threat presents itself), is non-lethal, won’t penetrate walls, and is purportedly very effective at “discouraging” an attacker. I’ve read good things about this OC device and recommend it for self-defense situations in which a firearm/lethal force isn’t optimal.
[quote]boatguy wrote:
Also, just because you don’t agree with it, when the majority of the nation does, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be a right.
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Absolutely true, that’s what makes America great.
I just hope the majority aren’t idiots. : )
[quote]tom63 wrote:
koots wrote:
The Supreme Court is hearing a very key case right now about our American rights to bear arms. I have lived abroad for several years and can tell you that most of the rest of the civilized world finds it rather appalling that we can easily purchase guns in the US. I have to say in most cases I agree.
Come on, man, how often do you think someone breaks into another person’s house and the owner has the time or know-how to get his gun and shoot the intruder? You would have to keep a loaded gun located close at hand. All it takes is one child (or adult, for that matter) having an accident with a gun like this to make it not worthwhile to have this “right.”
I agree with Zap. Go buy a baseball bat.
If you know how to do it what to do and when to do it, none of this is a problem.
I’m prepared and my kids are safe. My right to be safe and protect myself outweighs the possible accident stuff, which by knowing what I can do renders such accidents impossible.
But it’s not just me you would worry about, my 13 twin son and daughter both are fairly proficient in firearms.
And the rest of the world is so low on my care what they think because list it’s silly.
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I don’t doubt that you are a responsible gun owner and have taught your children well. I wish every gun owner were so responsible.
The thing that gives me hesitation about such lax gun regulation is the ease that both the good guys AND the bad guys are able to obtain a firearm. I know someone will say that the bad guys will always be able to get guns on the black market (if not from Wal-Mart). But the harder it is to get a gun the fewer bad guys there will be with guns. Case and point are the recent university shootings.
Just as an example of a different way of thinking about gun control, here is how it works in Germany (to the best of my knowledge). Only hunting weapons are allowed to be purchased by the non-police public. In order to purchase a hunting weapon you have to go to great lengths to prove you belong to a legitimate hunting club. Your hunting weapon is then kept in the club’s arms room at all times unless you are out hunting (presumably with the club).
And you know what? There are vastly fewer gun related violent crimes in Germany. Go figure.
