Overhead Squats

[quote]TKOWKD1 wrote:
Is it ok to do this exercise in running shoes or is a higher heel necessary ala olympic shoe or board?
(Note the woman in video is wearing flip flops)
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Not necessary, but definitely help if your flexiiblity isn’t great. When I first started I used to put 5 lb plates under my heels for help.

Are you using a clean grip for your OHS? That is muuuch harder than using a snatch grip.

[quote]Koing wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
Avocado wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
lbh110 wrote:
undeadlift are you talking lbs or kgs? If i recall correctly you’re a newbie and trying to dunk right?

Pounds. :frowning:

That would be sick if it were in Kilos. But at a 190 BkSq a 80 kg OH sq would be light.

Either way I’m sure you’ll shoot from 190 to like 315 in no time. Esp if you do leg work at least 3 times per week.

-chris

Yeah, stability plays a big role in overhead squats. Your back squat may shoot up by hundreds of pounds, but the carryover is minimal to overhead squats.

190 to 315? That would be amazing for a guy who couldn’t squat 80 when he started. Either case, I’ll be trying a leg spec cycle in January and see what happens.

I’m not so sure mate. 190 to 315lbs! I’d say at least 2yrs unless you only worked on getting a jacked up squat.

87Kg to 143kg is 56Kg increase. Maybe 18months of solid training and it depends if your a beginner. Even then 56kg in 18months is impressive. Either way train hard and you will get it :slight_smile:

Koing[/quote]

I went from 75kgx1 full squat with bad form when I started 7 months ago to 135kg a couple weeks ago, started at 100kg BW and am 88kg now. I’ve worked hard and squatted often in all varieties in that time period. Is that good progress?

I’ve started snatching enough weight and have learned to full snatch reasonably well. Now I’m working on my shoulders and OHS some. I go collar to collar and they are hard on my wrists so I’m working hard on pulling the bar apart and strengthening my shoulders and hands now- I’m doing grip holds, standing press, db shoulder press, and static holds along with OHS- recently I did 60kg power snatch and 3 OHS for 5 sets in a short technique O-lifting session. Abs are strong. Will that type of work be good to help me build a strong base for full snatches? I’ve never done OHS outside of snatches before.

I started regularly training the O-lifts around 2-2.5 months ago when I got my set at home but I’ve been trying to learn them since I started lifting 7-8 months ago.

Weightlifting is awesome and there is no better feeling than making progress and breaking PRs!

[quote]TKOWKD1 wrote:
Time to resurrect this Overhead Squats thread.

OHS has been the most humbling experience of my life.
I was inspired to try them after watching this awesome vid:

I back squat 405 lbs and front 275 x 3 ATG. So I thought I’d try 135 lbs for starters and work my way up. I clean and jerked it up no problem. Next I started to disend and WHAM!!! the bar came crushing down. Gym members were not amused. Next I tried 95 lbs, again WHAM!!! I swallowed my pride and finally just did the bar, even that was a struggle.

WTF? Ankle flexibility seems to be my biggest issue. I’ve over come some of that with a wider stance and toes pointing out.

After some reading on the subject and three practice sessions I’ve learned to keep my head looking up and pinching my shoulder blades. Starting point is 95 x 3 and my goal is to do 135 x 10 by end of summer.

Is it ok to do this exercise in running shoes or is a higher heel necessary ala olympic shoe or board?
(Note the woman in video is wearing flip flops)

Your comments and advice are welcome, cheers.

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Awesome I like how she had to step up her apparel also, got some oly shoes and tight briefs. Also she was hot, whats her whole name thats pretty impressive I wonder what she can do with the back squat. My #'s are not much higher then yours atg, and I was able to rep 225 without much trouble-not very high reps. I was doing less weight in squatting at the time. Its definitely a skill thing, have to have great shoulder strength/flexibility and balance. I used oly shoes with them, I think it makes a big difference mostly in balance.

I hate it overall though I find its not very beneficial after messing with them for a bit, I find the front squat to be the best for me right now. Its the safest, I’m very balanced and upright in it and it hits the muscles I want to grow more-quads, strong core ext- Its also pretty dangerous when you start to fatigue with oh squat, if you don’t have a platform its little scary. I nearly broke my arm when trying to safe from crashing down next to someone, thats when I stopped them. I think back squat, front squat are the best squats you need.

Edit odd title said 150lb, but text said 123 lbs.

I’d like to use the chance to go devil’s advocate on overheard squats.

I mean that I’m not exactly sure if they are helpful at all for maximum strength development. If one is a weightlifter then I suppose they would help familiarize one with the specific movements,but for a general trainer they would have little use.

You cannot possibly balance a heavy weight on your hyperextended arms and hope that it could strengthen your legs,glutes etc. unless your arms are somehow stronger than your legs. Soon your arms will fatigue and you will risk a crippling injury should you start to shake.

Sure the deep abs or the back and the hips could take some stimuli from this awkward movement but so they do with many less inconvenient compound moves.

Anyway,if you think this is wrong,feel free to say.

They’re not intended as leg strengthening exercise, more for core work and flexibility.

Instead of reading articles by T-Nation Coaches I’ve been reading and posting in the Strength Sports and Get a Life forums.

This is an Epic Fail by me.

In Question of Strength: June, Charles Poliquin discusses
The Truth About the Overhead Squat. I regret not reading it before doing a stupid post about it here.

http://www.T-Nation.com/article/most_recent/question_of_strength_june

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