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[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

Its a great piece of equipment and you talking about shoulder pain the neutral grip is way easier on my shoulders. Ive abused the hell out of mine for years now and the loading pins are a bit bent now but I blame my freak training partner for pressing 405 on the damn thing and doing 310 clean eqch for reps…[/quote]

I use a neutral grip for MP and push grip, actually more narrow than neutral.

I am at 40 so its a little more than just pain.

Keep up the video’s man always love to see them.

How much benefit would I get from elbow and knee sleeves?

I am hard headed and have resisted getting them.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

Its a great piece of equipment and you talking about shoulder pain the neutral grip is way easier on my shoulders. Ive abused the hell out of mine for years now and the loading pins are a bit bent now but I blame my freak training partner for pressing 405 on the damn thing and doing 310 clean eqch for reps…[/quote]

I use a neutral grip for MP and push grip, actually more narrow than neutral.

I am at 40 so its a little more than just pain.

Keep up the video’s man always love to see them.

How much benefit would I get from elbow and knee sleeves?

I am hard headed and have resisted getting them.[/quote]

When I say neutral grip I mean palms facing each other from the parallel grip handles.

Will do thanks

Those inzer elbow sleeves do give a little pop 5-10lbs at most or an extra rep Mine should be a size smaller they would work a lot better. Gives me motivation to get my arms bigger haha. I compete so I will take any advantage I can and I always say train how you compete. the rehband knee sleeves give no significant advantage its 100% injury/wear & tear prevention IMO. keeps the joints warm and some compression. I also wear rehband compression shorts whenever I train. It really lessens the aches in my knees, hips, groin, etc

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[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

Its a great piece of equipment and you talking about shoulder pain the neutral grip is way easier on my shoulders. Ive abused the hell out of mine for years now and the loading pins are a bit bent now but I blame my freak training partner for pressing 405 on the damn thing and doing 310 clean eqch for reps…[/quote]

I use a neutral grip for MP and push grip, actually more narrow than neutral.

I am at 40 so its a little more than just pain.

Keep up the video’s man always love to see them.

How much benefit would I get from elbow and knee sleeves?

I am hard headed and have resisted getting them.[/quote]

When I say neutral grip I mean palms facing each other from the parallel grip handles.

Will do thanks

Those inzer elbow sleeves do give a little pop 5-10lbs at most or an extra rep Mine should be a size smaller they would work a lot better. Gives me motivation to get my arms bigger haha. I compete so I will take any advantage I can and I always say train how you compete. the rehband knee sleeves give no significant advantage its 100% injury/wear & tear prevention IMO. keeps the joints warm and some compression. I also wear rehband compression shorts whenever I train. It really lessens the aches in my knees, hips, groin, etc
[/quote]

Damn okay, I dont compete, just do not have the time due to life.

However if it would decrease pain in elbows then I need to get them.

Knees dont give me trouble yet. Cross fingers.

Hip has flared up from back squat though, may have to look into the shorts.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

I built one out of a log. Not that tricky, need a big log and some patience. Looking to build a bigger one this winter though might just end up building a fat bar.

SE Texas, should be able to get a good log.

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

I built one out of a log. Not that tricky, need a big log and some patience. Looking to build a bigger one this winter though might just end up building a fat bar.

SE Texas, should be able to get a good log.[/quote]

Yea its not to difficult I’ve used a couple. Could always add some pins to the side to make it loadable. I think Slaters sells a kit with bolt on loading pins.

A fat bar is real easy I got a 7’ section of solid metal 2" pipe and just bolted on some exhaust clamps so there is 15" of space for plates on each side like a barbell Metal cost a little under 100 bucks. You can get sch 80 tube for a lot cheaper but they do bend after awhile

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Is there an advantage for.doing a push press with the bar behind the neck?[/quote]

Pretty much what was said already…I can do a lot more weight, personally I never have any shoulder pain, and I actually get a decent shoulder pump/workout out of it whereas push press from front I only exercise my temper. I do usually get a solid lump/bruise/scrape from it hitting my neck on the way down though.

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[quote]swolarbear wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Is there an advantage for.doing a push press with the bar behind the neck?[/quote]

Pretty much what was said already…I can do a lot more weight, personally I never have any shoulder pain, and I actually get a decent shoulder pump/workout out of it whereas push press from front I only exercise my temper. I do usually get a solid lump/bruise/scrape from it hitting my neck on the way down though.[/quote]

I cannot afford another hit to the neck. Thanks for the input/warning.

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[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

Thanks, said log presses, plan is 240x10 by the time comp rolls around feb 18th[/quote]

Kalle great job man.

Did you make the log or buy it?[/quote]

Thanks bigger things to come. I’ll hopefully be putting up log press videos every week till the comp.

Its a pitbull log I bought it like 4 years ago when steel was cheaper I think they are around 330 now[/quote]

We talked about getting one at our gym, probably have to buy myself and just bring up there.

I know the owner we are friends.

Maybe he would give me break on monthly dues. :)[/quote]

I built one out of a log. Not that tricky, need a big log and some patience. Looking to build a bigger one this winter though might just end up building a fat bar.

SE Texas, should be able to get a good log.[/quote]

Yea its not to difficult I’ve used a couple. Could always add some pins to the side to make it loadable. I think Slaters sells a kit with bolt on loading pins.

A fat bar is real easy I got a 7’ section of solid metal 2" pipe and just bolted on some exhaust clamps so there is 15" of space for plates on each side like a barbell Metal cost a little under 100 bucks. You can get sch 80 tube for a lot cheaper but they do bend after awhile[/quote]

I saw a set-up online that looks like it would work for me. I will not be using the crazy weights like you so I am not too worried about bend it. I am going to try to put wheels on it for weight and so I can drop the bar from an overhead position. I am short one wheel-already have one rim and two tires.

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Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
^ Still wake up with hands contracted and arm asleep below elbow. FML[/quote]

I know what that is like. Well, if I sit on the floor or lean forward while sitting my legs go numb after five minutes. Found I can still go up stairs with only partial feeling in one leg and the sandbag tingled in the other leg.

Man, getting old sucks.[/quote]

Have three disc herniations in the lower back, believe me I know how you feel.

Stupid improper lifting when I was younger.

I had to drop weight and work on flexibility and not work on JUST the big 4.

I am getting better though, just sucks about the nagging aches and pains.

Have no idea what its like to go through a day with pain though.[/quote]

My issues started at 22 thanks to a van. I feel better now than anytime since. Oly work dropping the bar at top has really helped my nervous system, the root of my shoulder issues.
[/quote]

Well I will not say what I have been doing, you will have to check out my log. :slight_smile:

Sending you a PM[/quote]

Replied. Sorry for delay.

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here…

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[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

FF, AG is now on G+ just FYI

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

You are correct, and to clarify a jerk is not a leg exercise what has helped mine go up is improving my strict press and close grip bench. I have a good front squat so my upper body strength is the weak link

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[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

yup I was definitely thinking of a jerk. my apologies

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[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

You are correct, and to clarify a jerk is not a leg exercise what has helped mine go up is improving my strict press and close grip bench. I have a good front squat so my upper body strength is the weak link[/quote]

Right. I guess I just always thought of it more as a leg exercise. Cause youre really driving up with it. I do understand it is not a strictly leg exercise, just in my mind thinking of it as a leg exercise is always how ive envisioned it i suppose.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

FF, AG is now on G+ just FYI[/quote]

Is he the one who made the sweet log?

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[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Kalle wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:

[quote]fighting_fires wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
Did strict.presses today, both wide (bodybuilder) and narrow (cleans grip). Each felt quite different. Maxed out much earlier with the wide grip and it made other parts in my arms ache. The cleans grip went better but getting over my head, or bringing my head through, was not smooth at all. I also think my legs definitely should be contributing more on the push press. Looks like I have lots to work on.[/quote]

Someone please correct me if i am wrong and confusing the push press with another exercise. But when we learned oly lifting the push press IS a leg exercise in my eyes. the press helps get it up but its all leg drive getting under the bar enough so that you can fully extend your arms then you stand up straight. I used to drop way low legs split, one forward one backward, then walk back under the bar essentially. Is that different from the push press or is that what I am thinking of?

Sorry if i am misleading anyone in any way and talking out of turn here… [/quote]

I belive you are describing a jerk.

A push press as I have read it described in articles here has two leg stages or presses. There is an intial leg drives were the bar is pushed upwards but the legs break again for a second push near the top.

Kalle’s video shows that. Mine does not. I seem to be pretty ineffective with leg drive at this point.

If I am mistaken someone please correct me.
[/quote]

You are correct, and to clarify a jerk is not a leg exercise what has helped mine go up is improving my strict press and close grip bench. I have a good front squat so my upper body strength is the weak link[/quote]

Right. I guess I just always thought of it more as a leg exercise. Cause youre really driving up with it. I do understand it is not a strictly leg exercise, just in my mind thinking of it as a leg exercise is always how ive envisioned it i suppose. [/quote]

I think a properly done jerk is more of a leg exercise than an upper body exercise, especially as the weight gets heavier. The legs/glutes provide the force that drives the bar up high enough that you can push yourself underneath with your upperbody while you reposition your feet. I think, that’s what feels like is happening when I do jerks. At least, as an o-lifter, I never (well, very rarely) do any strict pressing or push presses and have never found much carryover from them to my jerks. Though to be fair I transitioned into o-lifting from wrestling and did have a relatively solid base of upper body strength to work with.

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Not me but say this and found it very fitting for this thread

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^as the only one who has put a tire over his head in this thread, that makes me look cool.