…
squat 5x3
300x5
320x5
340x5
stiff legged deads
225x5
225x5
225x5
hour of bjj, hour of boxing
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
Map it out by days and time. I.E. monday 10am to 12 MT, 630 pm-930pm, MT, bjj, conditioning, ect… It’ll give me a better idea of the stresses on your body. [/quote]
Mondays
Roadwork (moderate paced 2-3 mile run) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Judo 7:00pm - 8:00pm
BJJ 8:00pm - 9:00pm
Tuesdays
Roadwork (low intensity run 3-4 miles) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
BJJ 7:00pm - 8:00pm
MMA 8:30pm - 9:30pm
Wednesdays
Deadlift/Press 5/3/1 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Thai Boxing 7:00pm - 8:00pm
Thursdays
Roadwork (interval sprints 1 mile) 8:00am
Thai Boxing 6:00pm - 7:00pm
Wrestling 8:00pm - 9:30pm
Fridays
Rest
Saturdays
Squats/Bench 5/3/1 10:00am
Judo 1:00pm - 2:00pm
MMA 2:30pm - 4:00pm
Sundays
Judo 12:00pm - 1:00pm
BJJ 1:00pm - 2:00pm [/quote]
That’s more running than I would suggest. If you are training hard the way you should in each class than you will be in good shape and the extra running will not give any added benefit. If you enjoy running I would run on friday, nothing to stressful, slow pack just to get the blood flowing. You are training 4 hours, and running on top of that. 4 hours is what GSP does a day, and he life is solely dedicated to training. You want to do more than he does, and you don’t have the team of experts around you that he does, nutritionist, cook, S&C coach, his AAS guy (if you believe he’s on something) plus his other trainers where he just gets 1 on 1 work.
I know you said you wanted to drop weight, the only way to do that is diet. Here’s a good article on fat loss and training. http://www.completehumanperformance.com/how-to-properly-lose-weight.html
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
Map it out by days and time. I.E. monday 10am to 12 MT, 630 pm-930pm, MT, bjj, conditioning, ect… It’ll give me a better idea of the stresses on your body. [/quote]
Mondays
Roadwork (moderate paced 2-3 mile run) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Judo 7:00pm - 8:00pm
BJJ 8:00pm - 9:00pm
Tuesdays
Roadwork (low intensity run 3-4 miles) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
BJJ 7:00pm - 8:00pm
MMA 8:30pm - 9:30pm
Wednesdays
Deadlift/Press 5/3/1 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Thai Boxing 7:00pm - 8:00pm
Thursdays
Roadwork (interval sprints 1 mile) 8:00am
Thai Boxing 6:00pm - 7:00pm
Wrestling 8:00pm - 9:30pm
Fridays
Rest
Saturdays
Squats/Bench 5/3/1 10:00am
Judo 1:00pm - 2:00pm
MMA 2:30pm - 4:00pm
Sundays
Judo 12:00pm - 1:00pm
BJJ 1:00pm - 2:00pm [/quote]
That’s more running than I would suggest. If you are training hard the way you should in each class than you will be in good shape and the extra running will not give any added benefit. If you enjoy running I would run on friday, nothing to stressful, slow pack just to get the blood flowing. You are training 4 hours, and running on top of that. 4 hours is what GSP does a day, and he life is solely dedicated to training. You want to do more than he does, and you don’t have the team of experts around you that he does, nutritionist, cook, S&C coach, his AAS guy (if you believe he’s on something) plus his other trainers where he just gets 1 on 1 work.
I know you said you wanted to drop weight, the only way to do that is diet. Here’s a good article on fat loss and training. http://www.completehumanperformance.com/how-to-properly-lose-weight.html
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Good read. My diet could use considerable fine tuning. I already had two cheat days this week. I started this log weighing 210lbs last month and am down to 200lbs today which I accomplished with minimal running.
I think I’ll listen to your suggestion about not running considering my workload. I’ll tell you what, on Tuesday I boxed for two hours and five hours later I did some muay thai for 1 hour and I was totally flat the next day for boxing training. Today I felt fine.
I might be over-thinking my training but I gassed out today within 2 minutes of the 1st round of wrestling/grappling sparring. I sparred 2 rounds consisting of 5 minutes each round. The second round was abysmal. I put myself in a lot of bad positions in the second round because I was exhausted. This was for my wrestling/grappling class today. Felt like shit because I should have digged deep and I feel like I let the fatigue get the best of me. I should have fought it off. Shortly after, I had MMA class for 2 hours. I sparred three 3 minute rounds. Oddly enough, I was not tired during the MMA class since we were focusing on boxing and muay thai.
What I noticed today is that I lacked explosiveness and am not sure if this points to my body being unaccustomed to these demands or if I am biting off more than I can chew (meaning I am training too much for a beginner?). What do you think?
Much respect and appreciation for giving advice.
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
I might be over-thinking my training but I gassed out today within 2 minutes of the 1st round of wrestling/grappling sparring. I sparred 2 rounds consisting of 5 minutes each round. The second round was abysmal. I put myself in a lot of bad positions in the second round because I was exhausted. This was for my wrestling/grappling class today. Felt like shit because I should have digged deep and I feel like I let the fatigue get the best of me. I should have fought it off. Shortly after, I had MMA class for 2 hours. I sparred three 3 minute rounds. Oddly enough, I was not tired during the MMA class since we were focusing on boxing and muay thai.
What I noticed today is that I lacked explosiveness and am not sure if this points to my body being unaccustomed to these demands or if I am biting off more than I can chew (meaning I am training too much for a beginner?). What do you think?
Much respect and appreciation for giving advice.[/quote]
You gassing during grappling, is not because you were out of shape. It’s because you were tense and burning energy, and going 100% the whole time. No fighter can go 100% and not gas. That’s why Mayweahter is so good, his 80% is the same as most people’s 100%. So he can do 80 all day, but other guys will slow down. Hatton was in the best shape humanly possible and he still gassed against Mayweather because he had to go 100% to keep up.
You just got to roll more until you are more comfortable and not tense the whole time.
Grappling is more slow twitch, striking more fast twitch. Grappling seems to negatively striking more than vice verse. Everyone feels it. Try this drill.
1 min pads
1 min grappling
1 min pads
1 min grappling
1 min pads
It’ll teach you to relax so you can stay explosive.
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
Map it out by days and time. I.E. monday 10am to 12 MT, 630 pm-930pm, MT, bjj, conditioning, ect… It’ll give me a better idea of the stresses on your body. [/quote]
Mondays
Roadwork (moderate paced 2-3 mile run) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Judo 7:00pm - 8:00pm
BJJ 8:00pm - 9:00pm
Tuesdays
Roadwork (low intensity run 3-4 miles) 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
BJJ 7:00pm - 8:00pm
MMA 8:30pm - 9:30pm
Wednesdays
Deadlift/Press 5/3/1 8:00am
Boxing 12:00pm - 2:00pm
Thai Boxing 7:00pm - 8:00pm
Thursdays
Roadwork (interval sprints 1 mile) 8:00am
Thai Boxing 6:00pm - 7:00pm
Wrestling 8:00pm - 9:30pm
Fridays
Rest
Saturdays
Squats/Bench 5/3/1 10:00am
Judo 1:00pm - 2:00pm
MMA 2:30pm - 4:00pm
Sundays
Judo 12:00pm - 1:00pm
BJJ 1:00pm - 2:00pm [/quote]
That’s more running than I would suggest. If you are training hard the way you should in each class than you will be in good shape and the extra running will not give any added benefit. If you enjoy running I would run on friday, nothing to stressful, slow pack just to get the blood flowing. You are training 4 hours, and running on top of that. 4 hours is what GSP does a day, and he life is solely dedicated to training. You want to do more than he does, and you don’t have the team of experts around you that he does, nutritionist, cook, S&C coach, his AAS guy (if you believe he’s on something) plus his other trainers where he just gets 1 on 1 work.
I know you said you wanted to drop weight, the only way to do that is diet. Here’s a good article on fat loss and training. http://www.completehumanperformance.com/how-to-properly-lose-weight.html
[/quote]
Good read. My diet could use considerable fine tuning. I already had two cheat days this week. I started this log weighing 210lbs last month and am down to 200lbs today which I accomplished with minimal running.
I think I’ll listen to your suggestion about not running considering my workload. I’ll tell you what, on Tuesday I boxed for two hours and five hours later I did some muay thai for 1 hour and I was totally flat the next day for boxing training. Today I felt fine. [/quote]
I love cheat meals, because I am a fat kid at heart. But they are not helping your body. They may be helping your head. So keep them to once a week and as the last meal of the day.
OHP 5x3
145x5
150x5
160x5
pull ups
30
dips
45
side raises
35sx10, 3 sets
1 mile in 8 minutes 2 seconds.
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[quote]precisionxy wrote:
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
[quote]precisionxy wrote:
I might be over-thinking my training but I gassed out today within 2 minutes of the 1st round of wrestling/grappling sparring. I sparred 2 rounds consisting of 5 minutes each round. The second round was abysmal. I put myself in a lot of bad positions in the second round because I was exhausted. This was for my wrestling/grappling class today. Felt like shit because I should have digged deep and I feel like I let the fatigue get the best of me. I should have fought it off. Shortly after, I had MMA class for 2 hours. I sparred three 3 minute rounds. Oddly enough, I was not tired during the MMA class since we were focusing on boxing and muay thai.
What I noticed today is that I lacked explosiveness and am not sure if this points to my body being unaccustomed to these demands or if I am biting off more than I can chew (meaning I am training too much for a beginner?). What do you think?
Much respect and appreciation for giving advice.[/quote]
You gassing during grappling, is not because you were out of shape. It’s because you were tense and burning energy, and going 100% the whole time. No fighter can go 100% and not gas. That’s why Mayweahter is so good, his 80% is the same as most people’s 100%. So he can do 80 all day, but other guys will slow down. Hatton was in the best shape humanly possible and he still gassed against Mayweather because he had to go 100% to keep up.
You just got to roll more until you are more comfortable and not tense the whole time.
Grappling is more slow twitch, striking more fast twitch. Grappling seems to negatively striking more than vice verse. Everyone feels it. Try this drill.
1 min pads
1 min grappling
1 min pads
1 min grappling
1 min pads
It’ll teach you to relax so you can stay explosive. [/quote]
I see. So what you are saying is that the more rolling and sparring I get under my belt, the less tense I should be, therefore, I’ll be more relaxed out there.
Yesterday was a tough training session. I think I may have broken my nose (very swollen) and because of this I am going to take 1 week off from MMA and grappling but will continue boxing (of course only pad work, heavy bag, speed bag, double end bag, and no sparring.) My sparring partner for MMA class is an amateur MMA fighter who is 1-0 and has been training for 5 years. He caught me with a good shot on the nose. I have a lot to improve on (conditioning, being relaxed, and standup defense). It’s like I forgot how to pivot and use my reach advantage. My sparring partner is 5’6 but a solid wrestler and he keep closing the distance and landing shots on the inside. This was my first time sparring MMA. I had one boxing sparring match prior to this against a total beginner.
In the wrestling/grappling class I had yesterday (before MMA sparring), we sparred for 2 x 5 minute rounds and I was extremely disappointed because I felt like did not dig deep when I was exhausted. Do you think this is a mental thing or maybe I really just didn’t have anything left in the tank? I get upset when I fuck up, I’m such a competitive guy and want to get better at MMA.
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Yeah of course, the more you do something the more relaxed you will be doing it. Keep it in your mind, be relaxed.
DEADLIFT 5x3
365x5
390x5
415x5
good mornings
135x10
185x5
185x5
185x5
hour of thai, hour of boxing
bench 3x3
255x3
270x3
285x3
squat 3x3
420x3
340x3
360x3
stiff legged deads
225x5
225x5
225x5
hour of thai
OHP 3x3
150x3
160x3
170x3
lat pull
190x10, 3 sets
dips
15, 3 sets
chest supported rows
2and half platesx 8, 3 sets
close grip bench
185x6
185x6
185x6
side raises
35sx8, 3 sets
I tried to send you a PM but it did not go through for some reason. Here is what I was going to send you:
"What’s up krazylarry? If you don’t mind, I have a few questions related to training, rest, recovery, and taking various disciplines at the same time.
As you probably already know, I started boxing nearly 3 months ago for the first time in my life and MMA 1 month ago. My boxing trainer stated that to take on an entirely new/different sport on top of what is already a new sport is too much. I tend to agree somewhat since I am having a difficult time balancing out both sports. I enjoy boxing, wrestling, judo, and MMA but its been tough to balance all disciplines. I still want to train in all disciplines but I have to pick which area to focus on. Herein lies the difficulty.
My boxing coach went on to say that I am not just dealing with physical exhaustion while training, there’s more to boxing/MMA than simply moving the body. The mind is also working hard while trying to learn each sport. He said I’ll often become even more fatigued as a result. I also agree with this part, too.
He went on to say that I am trying to take on too much at once. He believes I should get myself situated in one discipline first and then expand from there once I am in top condition for one of the respective sports (which he believes will take much more than 3 months). My boxing coach always knows if I trained the day before in another discipline.
If you don’t mind me asking, how did you start off in your training? Did you first learn a base sport such as wrestling and then expanded from there into MMA or did you learn everything at the same time? If you learned all disciplines at the same time, did you start off focusing more on one discipline than another? If I had to rank my favorite disciplines it would be as followed:
- boxing
- muay thai
- mma
- judo
- wrestling
- grappling (bjj)
I’d like to compete in the golden gloves next year in the 178lb division. I’m at 194 now and started 3 months ago at 210. Do you think I should focus all of the other disciplines around boxing? Remember, I also want to compete in MMA but at a later point.
Right now I am devoting 3 days to boxing, no days to muay thai, 1 day to MMA, 2 days to judo, 1 day to wrestling, 4 days to grappling, and Wendler’s 2 day 5/3/1 split. I’m in the gym 6 days per week, 1 day rest."
I wrestled in high school, than around 23 started in combat sambo. From there I have added muay thai, boxing, karate, MMA, and bjj. They were all similar, as were all the good coaches. What I focus on usually depends on injuries. When my knee was hurt, I couldn’t do ground work, so it was just stand up. Right now I got a cut of my eye, so all I can really do is pad work. When it heals I’ll probably pick a grappling class over striking, even though I like striking better and is better at it, because my grappling needs more work.
The only day I can see you changing is the MMA day because your striking, wrestling, and grappling need more work before you can put them together. I would also focus on wrestling more than judo. You don’t get to wear a gi in the cage, so I rather train to take people down without it. But I don’t know what you have available to you. Judo is better than nothing. But if you had quality wrestling around you I would do that. Right now learn what ever you can, down the road when you have a boxing fight set, drop everything else for a month or 2.
deadlift 3x3
390x3
415x3
440x3
good mornings
135x10
185x5
185x5
185x5
[quote]krazylarry wrote:
I wrestled in high school, than around 23 started in combat sambo. From there I have added muay thai, boxing, karate, MMA, and bjj. They were all similar, as were all the good coaches. What I focus on usually depends on injuries. When my knee was hurt, I couldn’t do ground work, so it was just stand up. Right now I got a cut of my eye, so all I can really do is pad work. When it heals I’ll probably pick a grappling class over striking, even though I like striking better and is better at it, because my grappling needs more work.
The only day I can see you changing is the MMA day because your striking, wrestling, and grappling need more work before you can put them together. I would also focus on wrestling more than judo. You don’t get to wear a gi in the cage, so I rather train to take people down without it. But I don’t know what you have available to you. Judo is better than nothing. But if you had quality wrestling around you I would do that. Right now learn what ever you can, down the road when you have a boxing fight set, drop everything else for a month or 2. [/quote]
Don’t they use a gi in combat sambo? Did you use a gi for your sambo training?
Do you suggest I drop the MMA class until I gain some solid fundamentals of wrestling?
BTW, I’m the same way. I think I have a greater aptitude for striking over grappling.
Yeah there is a jacket in sambo. I haven’t done a jacket class in years though. I liked his leg locks and his ideas on MMA. I wore it for maybe 6 months, probably did 50 or so jacket classes.
Can you do straight wrestling at the time of the MMA class? If you can do wrestling do wrestling over MMA for a while. But if there is nothing else in that time slot, do MMA. Because time is limited during your day, all that training, plus the rest of normal life.
I used to not be like that. I used to be a better wrestler with terrible stand up. But injuries have slowed my ground game a lot more than my standing.
bench 5/3/1
240x5
270x3
300x2
close grip
205x5
205x5
205x5
chest supported rows
2 platesx10
2.5x8
2.5x8
2.5x8
hour of Thai, where I sweated my balls off, 5 rounds of pads, 30 second break, and thats not even a real break. We have to do push ups in between.