Overanalysis Paralysis

You don’t think some people have obsessive personalities?

People that obsess over the small things while missing the big picture.

Sure there are solutions but changing the way you approach problems is difficult. Was for me anyway.

I spent a months trying to find the ‘best’ way to do everything. The definition of ‘best’ changed with every new article I read. Didn’t make much progress over that time.

Now I’ve accepted that I have to stick with something. Going well so far.

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
You don’t think some people have obsessive personalities?

People that obsess over the small things while missing the big picture.[/quote]

They exist, but they can change. If that wasn’t true there wouldn’t be case on helping newbies who over analyze on forums (ex. worrying on the fat gain that could lead taking 3650 calories instead of 3500 while weighing 150).

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
You don’t think some people have obsessive personalities?
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I think bodybuilding is FILLED with them, making using that as an excuse for the lack of results while overemphasizing small details that are the least important completely ridiculous.

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People that obsess over the small things while missing the big picture. [/quote]

That is not the definition of obsessive compulsive disorder. My guess is, most doctors or people in technical fields have it to some degree. Obviously, missing the big picture in those professions would be detrimental to a career.

People who microanalyze and make little progress can not keep using that as an excuse.

[quote]
Sure there are solutions but changing the way you approach problems is difficult. Was for me anyway.[/quote]

Then you alone have a problem finding the solution to problems. That has NOTHING to do with some “disorder”. It has everything to do with jumping into this with the belief that the guys who made the most progress by keeping things simple somehow had it all wrong.

[quote]
I spent a months trying to find the ‘best’ way to do everything. The definition of ‘best’ changed with every new article I read. Didn’t make much progress over that time.[/quote]

Someone with a firm foundation in biology would have known from the start that there is no one best way to do this. Someone who OBSERVED what the people making the most progress are actually doing would have also NOT made that mistake.

Your problem is clearly the lack of that foundational knowledge and the lack of observational skills when it comes to following what those who have achieved success themselves are actually doing.

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Now I’ve accepted that I have to stick with something. Going well so far.[/quote]

The point was, those who take extended periods of time to figure out the massive importance of consistency in getting results here should possibly find a new hobby instead of wasting years making no progress with bodybuilding.

Somewhere along the way, a bunch of personal trainers who barely look like they lift convinced way too many of you that the big guys should be avoided. It was a perfect marketing strategy.

It is a shame this many people were too slow on the draw to figure that out.

I’m glad I didn’t waste years.

My biggest mistake was assuming the article writers fit your definition of ‘big guys’. So I followed their advice to a letter.

I have no big guys to talk to/watch in real life.

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
My biggest mistake was assuming the article writers fit your definition of ‘big guys’. So I followed their advice to a letter.[/quote]

Yep, that was a huge mistake.

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I have no big guys to talk to/watch in real life.[/quote]

This I have a hard time believing. There are no people around you who play football on a college or even high school level? There are no people who lift seriously AT ALL? I could walk into a high school in this city and see at least 10 people who look like they have the genetics to beat most in terms of genetic potential but you haven’t seen even one person anywhere around you with bigger muscles than average?

Canada sucks, huh?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
My biggest mistake was assuming the article writers fit your definition of ‘big guys’. So I followed their advice to a letter.

Yep, that was a huge mistake.

I have no big guys to talk to/watch in real life.

This I have a hard time believing. There are no people around you who play football on a college or even high school level? There are no people who lift seriously AT ALL? I could walk into a high school in this city and see at least 10 people who look like they have the genetics to beat most in terms of genetic potential but you haven’t seen even one person anywhere around you with bigger muscles than average?

Canada sucks, huh?[/quote]

Germany sucks way more.
Nobody here plays any heavy duty sports… Only soccer or cycling (yay…)
This sucked, as I had no one to watch/ask during my beginner years, but now it’s a definite advantage as I’m the biggest dude within a very large area.

Even our 46 year old natural bench press champion (udo something) believes that cheating on exercises is bad and refuses to put a bench under his smith machine (which he thinks is a power rack, wtf?).

He’s a cool guy otherwise, just a shame that the weight stacks in his gym would have to be two to three times their current size for me to be able to train properly there, and they have not a single shoulder machine available at his gym…
Go ahead and train with heavy DB and BB presses all the time and watch your shoulder health go to hell…

Still benches a little more than me though (obviously), at least when it comes to his 1rm (they bench bb style wide grip, or so he says, which really surprised me).

Oh yeah, that’s the only even remotely passable gym left in my area…

Guess I’ll be making those elitefts guys rich sometime in the foreseeable future :wink:

Just out of curiosity, how come rows and military press didn’t make the list?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
My biggest mistake was assuming the article writers fit your definition of ‘big guys’. So I followed their advice to a letter.

Yep, that was a huge mistake.

I have no big guys to talk to/watch in real life.

This I have a hard time believing. There are no people around you who play football on a college or even high school level? There are no people who lift seriously AT ALL? I could walk into a high school in this city and see at least 10 people who look like they have the genetics to beat most in terms of genetic potential but you haven’t seen even one person anywhere around you with bigger muscles than average?

Canada sucks, huh?[/quote]

Canada isn’t the problem. I live in a small town ~10,000 people. Only the hockey players at my HS were kind of big but even they were just athletic not muscular to a large extent.

There actually was a competing bodybuilder that lived here that was friends with my parents but he moved away a couple years ago.

By next June I’ll be in Vancouver where I’ll join some ‘hardcore’ gym and it’ll be all good. I’ll be able to join a combat sport there as well.

I’m really glad I joined these forums instead of just reading the articles so that I could take advice from guys like you and others or else I think that I’d still be floundering.

The Dave_ bulking plan is one of the simplest, best things I’ve seen so far. 50 lbs in 18 months. Who can argue with that?

Pointless thread. This has been tried time and time again. People won’t listen.

[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
Pointless thread. This has been tried time and time again. People won’t listen.[/quote]

I like to vent.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
Pointless thread. This has been tried time and time again. People won’t listen.

I like to see my name on the screen. Many, many times every day.[/quote]

Fixed.

:wink:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Short Hoss wrote:
Pointless thread. This has been tried time and time again. People won’t listen.

I like to see my name on the screen. Many, many times every day.

Fixed.

;)[/quote]

That too. It gets me off.