[quote]forlife wrote:
I disagree. My biceps are proportional to the rest of my body, and I hardly ever do curls. Heavy complex lifts like weighted pullups have provided plenty of stimulation for muscle growth.
Not that there is anything wrong with curls, I just see a lot of guys doing them religiously while ignoring other lifts that would provide more balanced growth.
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Oh no. Not this argument again…
EDIT: austin_bicep took the bait! forlife, hurry, start reeling before he gets away
Overrated:
Planks
Back Squats
Stability training
Bench Press
Leg Press
Underrated:
Front Squats
Any unilateral leg work (split squats, lunges, step-ups, etc)
HammerStrength machines
Foam rolling
Overrated…
Barbell curl
Slow concentric tempo (“good form”)
Cable Crossovers (just burns calories)
Bosu Ball
Cardio in general
Underrated…
Inc. Dumbbell curl
Front Squat
Lunges
Explosive concentric
Just my opinion of course. Good topic by the way.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
The underrated exercises are the basics like Squat, Deadlift, Bench, Curls, Rows and whatever else that everyone shys away from now because they’re afraid to do what is proven to work best. These exercises are underrated because the produce the best results. I don’t know what runs through peoples minds.
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You can preach this shit all day to people, and they still will not get it. I have for quite some time on here (as well as others like X, CC, Tiri, etc) but we still have fuckers that weigh 160lbs calling curls overrated. Forlife’s the same height as me and I outweigh him by 35lbs and my arms are still too small. The one thing he needs is CURLS.
God, why hast thou forsaken us?
[quote]ignignokt wrote:
EDIT: austin_bicep took the bait! forlife, hurry, start reeling before he gets away[/quote]
I’m too strong for him to reel me in.
overrated
leg ext
leg curl
triceps dips
decline press
underrated
leg press
chest dips
bb curls
cable pressdowns
and then there is the obvious like squat/deads/presses/rows
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Underrated:
Stiff LEgs, love what they do to my hams
Bent Cable Tricep Extensions, hands down one of the best tricep builders ive ever done - thing is no one knows about these
Hack Squat
1 arm machine rows
Overrated
overhead press
pec deck
horizontal leg press
lat pulldowns[/quote]
How do you do Bent Cable Tricep Extensions? can’t find them anywhere
thx
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I love how so many people have such a problem with curls and bench press. It’s like we have to be so anti mainstream that those movements suck.
Give me a fucking break. I’d love to see people look like shit because they have decent quads and a back, but no chest and arms.
Bodybuilding is about balance and everyone seems to be a leg and back junkie nowadays and people who directly train arms and chest get scrutinized. Bunch of losers.
Then again I want to be an absolute freak, so if you want to look out of proportion or plain average, more power to you.[/quote]
AGREE
Just for this website:
Overrated:
Squats
Barbell rows.
Underrated:
Leg press
Leg extensions
Leg curls
Hammer strength rows
Lat pulldown.
Bicep curls
Triceps pushdown
Bench press
[quote]Short Hoss wrote:
You can preach this shit all day to people, and they still will not get it. I have for quite some time on here (as well as others like X, CC, Tiri, etc) but we still have fuckers that weigh 160lbs calling curls overrated. Forlife’s the same height as me and I outweigh him by 35lbs and my arms are still too small. The one thing he needs is CURLS.
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Go back and read what I said, dumb ass.
There’s nothing wrong with curls, as long as they are part of a balanced program.
I think they are overrated when people obsess on curls, at the expense of deadlifts, squats, pullups, and other complex exercises that create more balanced muscle development.
I see this frequently in the gym. I know guys that do curls and bench, and nothing else. That is stupidity.
If you look like fucking Popeye because you do more curls than anything else, you are the person my post was directed at. If your extra 35 pounds are evenly distributed, go back to your regular program since I wasn’t talking about you.
Underrated:
Pushing yourself to lifting bigger.
Keeping a notebook.
Having a plan.
Changing things up. Rotating.
Overrated:
Doing the same thing workout after workout, choosing the same weight amounts, not wanting to overdo things or strain a muscle.
Skipping a week or a month, then coming back and trying to remember what you used to be lifting.
Forgetting that you had a plan.
Not doing a leg day since you do a lot of cardio.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
ignignokt wrote:
EDIT: austin_bicep took the bait! forlife, hurry, start reeling before he gets away
I’m too strong for him to reel me in.
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i heard reeling is a good way to hit the biceps without actually curling
lol@ “what bodybuilders do powercleans?”
[quote]bjan09 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Underrated:
Stiff LEgs, love what they do to my hams
Bent Cable Tricep Extensions, hands down one of the best tricep builders ive ever done - thing is no one knows about these
Hack Squat
1 arm machine rows
Overrated
overhead press
pec deck
horizontal leg press
lat pulldowns
How do you do Bent Cable Tricep Extensions? can’t find them anywhere
thx[/quote]
thats b/c i have no idea what the real name of them is. i discovered someone doing them at my gym and i copied him and i liked the results.
anyway, go to a cable station where you would normally do tricep pushdowns or something.
you want to use a stable grip, no ropes for this, either the horseshoe grip, an curved bar or a regular straight bar but no ropes.
stand so that youre facing away from them stack with the bar behind your neck.
bend over forward like you were doing a weighted ab crunch. you will actually eventually need someone to help pull down on the cable to set up because it gets that heavy.
once you are bent forward and in place to begin, make sure the start of each rep is when the bar is behind your neck, you should feel a stretch in the triceps just from this. now you extend outwards and repeat.
i really like doing these and got tricep stretchmarks for the first time after doing em a couple weeks.
overated: advice from internet forums.
underated: advice from the big strong dude down the gym.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
ignignokt wrote:
EDIT: austin_bicep took the bait! forlife, hurry, start reeling before he gets away
I’m too strong for him to reel me in.
i heard reeling is a good way to hit the biceps without actually curling[/quote]
Lol, it would be good if he was looking to do extremely heavy negatives.
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lol@ “what bodybuilders do powercleans?”[/quote]
It’s so true bro. I can’t think of one pro who does them.
nice one 781 - have been doing the same with the rope but will try them out with the bar
cheers
There is no such thing as overrated or underrated movement/exercise simply because even some of the notoriously “shitty” exercises can be used quite efficiently - so no dogma that only heavy compounds create great triceps and kickbacks,pushdowns, sucks, BB benchpress timed and periodised can be outstanding chest builder, curls on the other hand provide great training stimuli via different angle (scott/decline), different grip, technique and on the other hand - chin-ups - titled as “the greatest bicep builder od all time” can be a total flop if lifter has some strentgh disproportions in the movement link (forearm, lats)…and the list goes on.
So basicaly some lifts can be titled as under/over rated but only in the context someone’s training regime, lifting “career” or body characteristics/proportions.
The lifter must learn to utilize and respect as much movements to provide even greater variety in order to develop.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
bjan09 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Underrated:
Stiff LEgs, love what they do to my hams
Bent Cable Tricep Extensions, hands down one of the best tricep builders ive ever done - thing is no one knows about these
Hack Squat
1 arm machine rows
Overrated
overhead press
pec deck
horizontal leg press
lat pulldowns
How do you do Bent Cable Tricep Extensions? can’t find them anywhere
thx
thats b/c i have no idea what the real name of them is. i discovered someone doing them at my gym and i copied him and i liked the results.
anyway, go to a cable station where you would normally do tricep pushdowns or something.
you want to use a stable grip, no ropes for this, either the horseshoe grip, an curved bar or a regular straight bar but no ropes.
stand so that youre facing away from them stack with the bar behind your neck.
bend over forward like you were doing a weighted ab crunch. you will actually eventually need someone to help pull down on the cable to set up because it gets that heavy.
once you are bent forward and in place to begin, make sure the start of each rep is when the bar is behind your neck, you should feel a stretch in the triceps just from this. now you extend outwards and repeat.
i really like doing these and got tricep stretchmarks for the first time after doing em a couple weeks.[/quote]
Live, does what you’re describing look like these, only with a straight bar?
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
bjan09 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Underrated:
Stiff LEgs, love what they do to my hams
Bent Cable Tricep Extensions, hands down one of the best tricep builders ive ever done - thing is no one knows about these
Hack Squat
1 arm machine rows
Overrated
overhead press
pec deck
horizontal leg press
lat pulldowns
How do you do Bent Cable Tricep Extensions? can’t find them anywhere
thx
thats b/c i have no idea what the real name of them is. i discovered someone doing them at my gym and i copied him and i liked the results.
anyway, go to a cable station where you would normally do tricep pushdowns or something.
you want to use a stable grip, no ropes for this, either the horseshoe grip, an curved bar or a regular straight bar but no ropes.
stand so that youre facing away from them stack with the bar behind your neck.
bend over forward like you were doing a weighted ab crunch. you will actually eventually need someone to help pull down on the cable to set up because it gets that heavy.
once you are bent forward and in place to begin, make sure the start of each rep is when the bar is behind your neck, you should feel a stretch in the triceps just from this. now you extend outwards and repeat.
i really like doing these and got tricep stretchmarks for the first time after doing em a couple weeks.
Live, does what you’re describing look like these, only with a straight bar?
EliteFTS.com: Troponin -Overhead Rope Extensions - YouTube [/quote]
i dont know how u manage to stay in that position live because when i do those with the bar u mention it becomes to much weight to balance myself
Overrated:
Flies
Leg Extensions
Wrist Curls
Underrated:
Fat Bar lifts
Farmer’s walks
Good Mornings
Banded Hypers (I do these with a strong band around my neck and it fries my glutes/hams)
Underrated:
lunges
farmer walk with DB with towels
deadlift
Overrated:
balancing and doing sets of anything with weight