[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Professor X wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
I know AA said he brings his own damn food to meetings. That cracked me up.
So do I. AA weighs over 270lbs. No one is going to say shit.
heck no I wouldn’t say anything in person.
But do you remember the thread I am talking about?
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Yes, I do.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
So you deny the existence of toxic people?
No. I deny that their existence means that my progress is diminished. I also deny that someone bringing a cake to work for coworkers is “toxic”. It isn’t. Your FRIENDS offering you a beer is NOT toxic. There is a lady at my job who bakes cookies and brownies every single week. I simply avoid the break room because I don’t even like being around it. That doesn’t make her “toxic”. It makes her a very nice woman who isn’t that worried about my personal goals.
Toxic would be your wife baking cookies everyday even though she knows you are trying to avoid it. The difference being she is your wife and lives in close proximity to you. Toxic would be your parents degrading your every move as far as weight lifting. They are also in close proximity to you. People who live outside of those boundaries and don’t need to compromise their own personal lifestyles at all because you exist are not toxic simply because they continue to do what they have always done.
I’ve been called, in total seriousness, a freak/weirdo/nut/snob because of healthy eating choices and habits (carrying food with me, water, drinking a quart of milk for extra calories or as an “emergency” meal, etc) that I stick by. Others are very much aware of what they are doing because they are jealous of success.
Maybe you need more size on you. I don’t get people going out of their way to call me names because of how I eat. If anything, I get more respect because of it. Some of these issues come up because of how YOU present yourself to others. If you are the type of person who commands no control at all in daily situations, expect for people to NOT respect you as much.
I went through this same thing when I first started working out and making real progress. I gradually started noticing that pretty much everyone tried to get me to eat crap or skip workouts, much more than they had before I’d started making progress. I don’t think he’s asking for anyone to feel sorry for him, so much as asking whether we’d noticed the same thing happen to us.
Again, if people around see that you really aren’t serious…or maybe that you never were serious before but now are acting like you are, they are acting like that because of how YOU acted. I have always been into exercise, even as a kid. This isn’t new to anyone who has known me for years. They sure as hell wouldn’t try to make me skip a workout because they know how important it is to me. For the record, getting you to go to Hooters instead of hit the gym one night on the weekends isn’t exactly “toxic”. You simply say, “no”. Why are some of you giving random people so much power in your lives?[/quote]
I’m not giving anyone power in my life but me and the people I care about. I think in order to give someone power, you must acquiesce to their suggestions or demands. This doesn’t happen with me or as far as I can tell from his post, the OP. I have managed to create a nucleus of friends who understand what I’m doing, because a lot of them are doing similar things. The people I’m talking about are not necessarily my friends. Rather they are people I see very often at work or acquaintences of good friends who feel the need to do things. Also, some of my extended family used to do it. And these are not simply occasional “hey let’s go out and have a beer at Hooters”. It’s too often and direct for that. I don’t make a big deal out of my habits for atention, I just do them. As far as I can tell, the names aren’t really used maliciously, just incredulously. It’s annoying all the same.
You’re right, I could probably use some extra muscle on me, but I don’t feel like going all out now. I’m putting a little weight on, but mostly I’d like to stay in easy reach of the 198s without extended dieting. If I ever get to the point I’m feeling stagnated at that class, or get bored with it, the next stop will be 250.
Good posts.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
The people I’m talking about are not necessarily my friends. Rather they are people I see very often at work or acquaintences of good friends who feel the need to do things. Also, some of my extended family used to do it. And these are not simply occasional “hey let’s go out and have a beer at Hooters”. It’s too often and direct for that. I don’t make a big deal out of my habits for atention, I just do them. As far as I can tell, the names aren’t really used maliciously, just incredulously. It’s annoying all the same.
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Just give it time, when i first started at my job, there were people who said omg you eat so often, omg you eat a lot of vegies etc, etc, after a period of time about half of the people started to ask about training and actually started training and changed their eating habits, this was not due to me harping in their ear but due to way i carried myself and led from the front.
my energy levels, good humour and general attitude and work capacity were what these people saw, actions always speak far louder than words.
As for the one’s who wanted to get on the piss, i did get on the piss a couple of times with them and drank them all under the table and danced flat out with the girls(none of these people had a service background in drinking, which does give u a headstart)so i was accepted there as well but the majority of people respect my attitude to training and being healthy, don’t bother talking to them, let your actions do that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
So you deny the existence of toxic people?
No. I deny that their existence means that my progress is diminished. I also deny that someone bringing a cake to work for coworkers is “toxic”. It isn’t. Your FRIENDS offering you a beer is NOT toxic. There is a lady at my job who bakes cookies and brownies every single week. I simply avoid the break room because I don’t even like being around it. That doesn’t make her “toxic”. It makes her a very nice woman who isn’t that worried about my personal goals.
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Good post. Most people live their lives and don’t really worry about helping or hindering your gym goals.
Just because they may tempt you with food does not make them toxic.
Anal retentive motherfuckers, why can’t you have the odd bit of pizza and kick back and have a beer with your mates?
You don’t have to be on the ball 24/7.
Oh and so I don’t sound like a complete cunt, Real nice work on the weight loss bro.
I find fat people to my distaste it is after all for the vast majority self inflicted.
I like the Poliquin “You are the average of the 5 people you spend most of your time with”
I believe its the people you spend your time with and the books you read that make the difference.
Start hanging out with people who have what you want.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Another thing that helps is finally making enough progress so that you LOOK the part. If you weigh 135lbs yet are carrying a gallon jug of water to work, expect for people to look at you crazy. They won’t do that if you look like you could toss them over a shoulder and throw them out of the way.[/quote]
I teach class at the university as part of my PhD program and I always bring my water jug to class with me for my lectures. The students always get a kick out of it and at the end of the semester he wrote in “things I liked about the instructor” portion of the student evaluation form…
“Promotes student health by showing the benefits of drinking water every day”
Hahah…I had a good laugh on that one
[quote]Andrew Dixon wrote:
I like the Poliquin “You are the average of the 5 people you spend most of your time with”
I believe its the people you spend your time with and the books you read that make the difference.
Start hanging out with people who have what you want.
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Can’t really go wrong with this advice.
But at the same time remember no one wants to hang with the dude who counts the calories in chewing gum.
Live a little!
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
I know what you mean by turning down food that is unhealthy. I haven’t been to a party in 2-3 years because everyone would try to get me to drink. [/quote]
HOW UNGODLY HORRIBLE.
Seriously people. I am downright scared. Getting a little buzz once a month has zero influence on your gains. Now, getting drunk once a week - that would be another story. But we’re not talking about that.
If you are a very either-or person, that’s okay. But don’t try to make it pass for a necessity.
[quote]IrishMarc wrote:
Andrew Dixon wrote:
I like the Poliquin “You are the average of the 5 people you spend most of your time with”
I believe its the people you spend your time with and the books you read that make the difference.
Start hanging out with people who have what you want.
Can’t really go wrong with this advice.
But at the same time remember no one wants to hang with the dude who counts the calories in chewing gum.
Live a little!
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True.
I’ve been on both extremes of eating. Totally crap, to not a thing wrong. You go insance trying to follow te perfect diet. Now I let myself eat crap from time to time without beating myself up about it.
[quote]Imen de Naars wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
I know what you mean by turning down food that is unhealthy. I haven’t been to a party in 2-3 years because everyone would try to get me to drink.
HOW UNGODLY HORRIBLE.
Seriously people. I am downright scared. Getting a little buzz once a month has zero influence on your gains. Now, getting drunk once a week - that would be another story. But we’re not talking about that.
If you are a very either-or person, that’s okay. But don’t try to make it pass for a necessity.[/quote]
When I was in high school (before I started to enjoy drinking), rather than try to fight with people saying that I didn’t like the taste, I would just hold a beer in my hand. Drunk people generally can’t monitor how much everyone else is drinking.
I still do this sometimes. If I don’t feel like drinking anything, I will just order plain tonic water. People just assume that it is some sort of alcoholic beverage and leave you alone.
[quote]christine wrote:
Imen de Naars wrote:
Kreal7 wrote:
I know what you mean by turning down food that is unhealthy. I haven’t been to a party in 2-3 years because everyone would try to get me to drink.
HOW UNGODLY HORRIBLE.
Seriously people. I am downright scared. Getting a little buzz once a month has zero influence on your gains. Now, getting drunk once a week - that would be another story. But we’re not talking about that.
If you are a very either-or person, that’s okay. But don’t try to make it pass for a necessity.
When I was in high school (before I started to enjoy drinking), rather than try to fight with people saying that I didn’t like the taste, I would just hold a beer in my hand. Drunk people generally can’t monitor how much everyone else is drinking.
I still do this sometimes. If I don’t feel like drinking anything, I will just order plain tonic water. People just assume that it is some sort of alcoholic beverage and leave you alone.[/quote]
This sounds a good diplomatic solution. Personally, I just start a tirade against them and argue to death when they try to convice me and I don’t want to. But, your method was probably much more effective.
[quote]Imen de Naars wrote:
This sounds a good diplomatic solution. Personally, I just start a tirade against them and argue to death when they try to convice me and I don’t want to. But, your method was probably much more effective.
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It’s called picking your battles 
(and I had to learn the hard way).
Although I do, enjoy a good argument now and then…
Anyway, I have also been known to throw away perfectly good cake and cookies at work rather than try to convince someone that I just don’t want their treats. Thank them, take offending item back to your desk and put in trash (when no one is looking.)
Makes everyone happy.
I feel your pain opener. I get this crap often.
“I made this pie, have some.” No thanks
“Why, you think i can’t cook?” No, I am watching what I eat.
“Why, you look fine, have some pie, I made it.”
Then I get pissed off and the conversation spirals out of control.
[quote]That One Guy wrote:
mithious wrote:
I dropped 35 pounds in a summer a while back (on purpose) and was also accused of being anorexic… Looking back I might have lost too much weight too fast. I wouldn’t do that again, But then, I’m pretty lean now, I won’t have to again. I’ll drop about 6-7 pounds to get ripped for summer.
Hardly am I anorexic. And no-one now would accuse me of that.
People are always trying to get me to drink more, eat more crap, just have a bite, etc.
Eating healthy is one way I define who I am. It took me a long time to figure that out…
I live with 2 room-mates, and every night they cook for each other. They would cook for me as well, but they know better. Tonight they had 2 grilled processed cheese samwiches and Mr. Noodles for dinner. I was only half done cooking when they were finished eating, but I think deep down they were jealous watching me eat ww pasta, sauce, lean ground beef, salad and oil and vinegar dressing. They had cool-aid… I had water and an orange.
Live, and let live. But I won’t let anyone bring me down to their level of poor dietary standards either.
That’s why we have T-Nation; here we generally think alike. At least, that’s why I’m here…
Here are my virtual room-mates. And they are cooking boneless skinless chicken breasts and making protein shakes with frozen blueberries.
At least you better be… Or I’ll kick your ass.
sorry…i prefer peanut butter in my shakes…plz don’t hurt me[/quote]
Me too, PB is full of good fat though, dont feel bad. Fat is good for you.
lol. I like the pie story. Reminds me of work. Almost everyone there is fat and they bring in junk food every day and set it on the conference table. I work with really smart people, yet they somehow can’t control urges to eat crap that makes them unhealthy. I guess I just don’t get it.
[quote]ryanjm wrote:
lol. I like the pie story. Reminds me of work. Almost everyone there is fat and they bring in junk food every day and set it on the conference table. I work with really smart people, yet they somehow can’t control urges to eat crap that makes them unhealthy. I guess I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Different people are smart with different things.
Athlete that treats his body good but can’t even form a proper sentence…
Calculus prof that is so smart he can do just about any math question yet so stupid he cant even feed himself properly.
http://wilderdom.com/personality/L2-4GardenerMultipleIntelligences.html