Our Fat Society

I got pulled over the other day for rolling a stop sign and the cop accused me of being on crack or meth because in my license picture I look like a jolly fat boy compared to now. Of course he was on the decidedly portly end of the scale himself. He wound up letting me go, but it was amusing nonetheless.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I got pulled over the other day for rolling a stop sign and the cop accused me of being on crack or meth because in my license picture I look like a jolly fat boy compared to now. Of course he was on the decidedly portly end of the scale himself. He wound up letting me go, but it was amusing nonetheless.[/quote]

That’s funny.

Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

Not saying that isn’t the case sometimes, but not all of your friends who want you to go have a drink with them feel inferior to you.

And OP, congrats on your accomplishments, but I was wondering, do you feel any negativity towards fat people now? It kinda sounds like it, and I can understand.

I lost about 70 pounds a couple years ago and have gone through times when I would get disgusted by fat people. I don’t know, it’s kind of a weird phenomenon that I’ve heard happens with other people as well.

I wonder if “Chubs” has replaced “slim” as the most popular nickname?

This analogy is starting to show its age, but I think its got a little life left in it…

If you put a bunch of crabs in a bucket, the one near the top of the bucket with always try to escape the bucket. The thing is, every time they make some progress, another crab still in the bucket will grab them and pull them back down to nullify all the work that was put into the escape attempt.

People are the same way. They want you down in the bucket(overweight, out of shape, disinterested in their health) with them. Seeing someone try to change the status quo reminds them that they should probably be trying to do the same thing themselves. But changing habits is a buzzkill. Its easier to drag the person trying back down and keep everything the way it is.

I’ve noticed one thing:
As you know more on one subject, every one around you will become that much dumber. C
Cases in point:

  1. (most relevant): My Dad strongly encourages isometrics. No, not a particular type of exercise (single joint I believe? Remind me real quick), I mean clasping your hands together and pushing will build strength, hypertrophy and make World Peace. He maxed out on his army test, when he was 21, but now, he’s got a huge ass beer belly to the point where it makes it look like he has chicken legs

  2. My Mom wishes she had my discipline… Not exactly stupid, but it sounds as if like God cheated her out of discipline, and gave it to me.

  3. My little brother, is just retarded period.
    A. Says lifting is “unnatural”, and that pushups and situps (I know you’re thinking: ALL bodyweight exercises, no just those “fun” ones) are.
    B. I tried to show him some exercise at the gym I went to over the winter vacation while I was home: is exact quote: “Exercise should be fun”. I think now would be the time to say that he’s just over the line from skinny-fat into regular fat.
    C. Not related, but he believes that if a sumo wrestler and a normal sized person were to jump off Niagara falls at the same time, the sumo wrestler would hit the water first. I showed him a similar experiment with a bottle filled up with water, and an empty bottle. Both hit the ground at the same time, he still denies this.
    D. He liked the Family Guy video game. All of you gamers should know why this is bad.
    E. He is also a fan of Dane Cook, and quotes him every f–king minute.

  4. Politicians/Lawyers and video games: Look up Jack Thompson on Wikiquote/pedia. He’s the gaming industry’s major playa-hata. Some choice quotes:

“Kids don’t have liberties. Do your research”

“The Bible doesn’t promote killing innocent people, Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does. Islam promotes the killing of innocent people. The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. … That’s a core essence of the religion. … Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition.”

“GTA is a Sony/Take-Two game. It was made by Take-Two exclusively for Sony’s Playstation 2. Sony has led the planet in the distribution of mainstream porn. I don’t have time to document it for you. As for the offensiveness of the Pearl Harbor comment, it’s accurate and it’s needed. The Japanese have a contempt for our culture which is patent. There [sic] dumping of garbage into our culture is a slow motion version of Pearl Harbor.”

“That’s not the debate junior. That’s a retail stat. You don’t know the difference, huh? Gosh, I forgot. You’re a gamer. You can’t think for yourself. Sony and Microsoft and Take-Two have to do your cerebral stimulation for you.”

Mmmhmmm…

Some people are just goddamn idiots and are too scared to make changes. Gratz on achieving your goal.

[quote]Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.
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I couldn’t agree more. Get over yourself, your friends don’t really give a shit about sabatoging you, they want you to have a good time. If you are so strict that you cannnot indulge in a drink or snack once a week, then you won’t have many friends soon.

[quote]Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

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“Innocent ignorance” is all well and good, but it can turn into “hostile ignorance” if you don’t explain why you do what you do very carefully to them. Then they’ll end up disapproving of anyone they meet that acts like you. People love to compartmentalize. They won’t always hate you because of secret jealousy, sometimes just for being different.

[quote]uberswank wrote:
Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

I couldn’t agree more. Get over yourself, your friends don’t really give a shit about sabatoging you, they want you to have a good time. If you are so strict that you cannnot indulge in a drink or snack once a week, then you won’t have many friends soon.

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Well said. I have never had anyone “force” me to drink alcohol or “force” me to eat a damn brownie. If I want to, I will. If I don’t, I tell them, “no thanks” and go on about my business. If other people feel they can continue pushing you, it is obviously either because you didn’t make yourself clear or they know you aren’t that strong willed.

I also know that if anyone is actually living their entire life with no breaks or absolutely no points where they actually just shut the fuck up and drink a beer (eat a pizza or whatever) with friends that they probably don’t really have any. I would also question how much progress they are actually making. Even competing bodybuilders have an off season.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
uberswank wrote:
Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

I couldn’t agree more. Get over yourself, your friends don’t really give a shit about sabatoging you, they want you to have a good time. If you are so strict that you cannnot indulge in a drink or snack once a week, then you won’t have many friends soon.

Well said. I have never had anyone “force” me to drink alcohol or “force” me to eat a damn brownie. If I want to, I will. If I don’t, I tell them, “no thanks” and go on about my business. If other people feel they can continue pushing you, it is obviously either because you didn’t make yourself clear or they know you aren’t that strong willed.

I also know that if anyone is actually living their entire life with no breaks or absolutely no points where they actually just shut the fuck up and drink a beer (eat a pizza or whatever) with friends that they probably don’t really have any. I would also question how much progress they are actually making. Even competing bodybuilders have an off season.[/quote]

So you deny the existence of toxic people? I’m curious here, because I believe very much that they exist and that they will try to drag people down with them. Some of them aren’t so much aware that they’re doing it as much as they think that it is an abnormal thing to do what we do. I’ve been called, in total seriousness, a freak/weirdo/nut/snob because of healthy eating choices and habits (carrying food with me, water, drinking a quart of milk for extra calories or as an “emergency” meal, etc) that I stick by. Others are very much aware of what they are doing because they are jealous of success.

I went through this same thing when I first started working out and making real progress. I gradually started noticing that pretty much everyone tried to get me to eat crap or skip workouts, much more than they had before I’d started making progress. I don’t think he’s asking for anyone to feel sorry for him, so much as asking whether we’d noticed the same thing happen to us.

Oh yes, and I do love my pizza and Chipotle. And scotch, and beer, and gin, and rum.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
uberswank wrote:
Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

I couldn’t agree more. Get over yourself, your friends don’t really give a shit about sabatoging you, they want you to have a good time. If you are so strict that you cannnot indulge in a drink or snack once a week, then you won’t have many friends soon.

Well said. I have never had anyone “force” me to drink alcohol or “force” me to eat a damn brownie. If I want to, I will. If I don’t, I tell them, “no thanks” and go on about my business. If other people feel they can continue pushing you, it is obviously either because you didn’t make yourself clear or they know you aren’t that strong willed.

I also know that if anyone is actually living their entire life with no breaks or absolutely no points where they actually just shut the fuck up and drink a beer (eat a pizza or whatever) with friends that they probably don’t really have any. I would also question how much progress they are actually making. Even competing bodybuilders have an off season.

So you deny the existence of toxic people? I’m curious here, because I believe very much that they exist and that they will try to drag people down with them. Some of them aren’t so much aware that they’re doing it as much as they think that it is an abnormal thing to do what we do. I’ve been called, in total seriousness, a freak/weirdo/nut/snob because of healthy eating choices and habits (carrying food with me, water, drinking a quart of milk for extra calories or as an “emergency” meal, etc) that I stick by. Others are very much aware of what they are doing because they are jealous of success.

I went through this same thing when I first started working out and making real progress. I gradually started noticing that pretty much everyone tried to get me to eat crap or skip workouts, much more than they had before I’d started making progress. I don’t think he’s asking for anyone to feel sorry for him, so much as asking whether we’d noticed the same thing happen to us. [/quote]

Aragon, you got to it before me. You made a lot of the points that I was going to. I’m not saying ‘no one understands me’. I’m not trying to lift myself up as better than other people. All I’m saying is that it does seem to me like when people try to improve themselves other people in their lives often make it harder than it has to be. Sometimes this may be ignorance. Sometimes it might be they’re just wanting to include you on a good time. Whatever, who cares about every possible reason it could be. I would argue that sometimes it’s people being jealous on some level though.

If you disagree with me- great, I can take it. I was just wanting to see if other people had noticed/experienced the same thing.

And lets get one thing straight. I love a beer as much (maybe more) as the next guy. I’m just trying to be a little smarter about it now.

All I have to say is…

It’s good to be an ectomorph.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

So you deny the existence of toxic people? [/quote]

No. I deny that their existence means that my progress is diminished. I also deny that someone bringing a cake to work for coworkers is “toxic”. It isn’t. Your FRIENDS offering you a beer is NOT toxic. There is a lady at my job who bakes cookies and brownies every single week. I simply avoid the break room because I don’t even like being around it. That doesn’t make her “toxic”. It makes her a very nice woman who isn’t that worried about my personal goals.

Toxic would be your wife baking cookies everyday even though she knows you are trying to avoid it. The difference being she is your wife and lives in close proximity to you. Toxic would be your parents degrading your every move as far as weight lifting. They are also in close proximity to you. People who live outside of those boundaries and don’t need to compromise their own personal lifestyles at all because you exist are not toxic simply because they continue to do what they have always done.

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I’ve been called, in total seriousness, a freak/weirdo/nut/snob because of healthy eating choices and habits (carrying food with me, water, drinking a quart of milk for extra calories or as an “emergency” meal, etc) that I stick by. Others are very much aware of what they are doing because they are jealous of success. [/quote]

Maybe you need more size on you. I don’t get people going out of their way to call me names because of how I eat. If anything, I get more respect because of it. Some of these issues come up because of how YOU present yourself to others. If you are the type of person who commands no control at all in daily situations, expect for people to NOT respect you as much.

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I went through this same thing when I first started working out and making real progress. I gradually started noticing that pretty much everyone tried to get me to eat crap or skip workouts, much more than they had before I’d started making progress. I don’t think he’s asking for anyone to feel sorry for him, so much as asking whether we’d noticed the same thing happen to us. [/quote]

Again, if people around see that you really aren’t serious…or maybe that you never were serious before but now are acting like you are, they are acting like that because of how YOU acted. I have always been into exercise, even as a kid. This isn’t new to anyone who has known me for years. They sure as hell wouldn’t try to make me skip a workout because they know how important it is to me. For the record, getting you to go to Hooters instead of hit the gym one night on the weekends isn’t exactly “toxic”. You simply say, “no”. Why are some of you giving random people so much power in your lives?

Whenever my friends give me a hard time about eating stuff, I just turn it into a joke and completely avoid the act of explaining what I’m trying to get done. Like, if they make a comment about the healthiness of what I’m eating, I just say, “Well its good you’re not eating it then” and laugh. They then don’t continue badgering me about it . . . until the next meal at least haha. Don’t be oversensitive to this stuff. Just be nice.

gaw damn all you guys a f’in paranoid. Im sure half the people you think are toxic aren’t. geez. and the CIA is sending radio signals to aliens in hopes of sabotaging your workout too.

[quote]BigAlSwede wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Professor X wrote:
uberswank wrote:
Deserteaglle wrote:
Holy crap it’s starting to sound like someone let the damn emos in with all the “No one understands me!!!” crap.

I think that if you feel that everyone who tries to get you to do what they’re doing hates you, you’ve probably got an overblown sense of self-worth. More than likely they just don’t get it due to innocent ignorance, and they’re not secretly hating you for being better than them.

I couldn’t agree more. Get over yourself, your friends don’t really give a shit about sabatoging you, they want you to have a good time. If you are so strict that you cannnot indulge in a drink or snack once a week, then you won’t have many friends soon.

Well said. I have never had anyone “force” me to drink alcohol or “force” me to eat a damn brownie. If I want to, I will. If I don’t, I tell them, “no thanks” and go on about my business. If other people feel they can continue pushing you, it is obviously either because you didn’t make yourself clear or they know you aren’t that strong willed.

I also know that if anyone is actually living their entire life with no breaks or absolutely no points where they actually just shut the fuck up and drink a beer (eat a pizza or whatever) with friends that they probably don’t really have any. I would also question how much progress they are actually making. Even competing bodybuilders have an off season.

So you deny the existence of toxic people? I’m curious here, because I believe very much that they exist and that they will try to drag people down with them. Some of them aren’t so much aware that they’re doing it as much as they think that it is an abnormal thing to do what we do. I’ve been called, in total seriousness, a freak/weirdo/nut/snob because of healthy eating choices and habits (carrying food with me, water, drinking a quart of milk for extra calories or as an “emergency” meal, etc) that I stick by. Others are very much aware of what they are doing because they are jealous of success.

I went through this same thing when I first started working out and making real progress. I gradually started noticing that pretty much everyone tried to get me to eat crap or skip workouts, much more than they had before I’d started making progress. I don’t think he’s asking for anyone to feel sorry for him, so much as asking whether we’d noticed the same thing happen to us.

Aragon, you got to it before me. You made a lot of the points that I was going to. I’m not saying ‘no one understands me’. I’m not trying to lift myself up as better than other people. All I’m saying is that it does seem to me like when people try to improve themselves other people in their lives often make it harder than it has to be. Sometimes this may be ignorance. Sometimes it might be they’re just wanting to include you on a good time. Whatever, who cares about every possible reason it could be. I would argue that sometimes it’s people being jealous on some level though.

If you disagree with me- great, I can take it. I was just wanting to see if other people had noticed/experienced the same thing.

And lets get one thing straight. I love a beer as much (maybe more) as the next guy. I’m just trying to be a little smarter about it now. [/quote]

There was a thread about this a few months ago about “Do you Tell” was that it? About whether or not you shared with friends, coworkers, family, significant other what your lifestyle was in regards to your training and eating habits.

Does anyone remember the name of it?

I know AA said he brings his own damn food to meetings. That cracked me up.

[quote]IronDude17 wrote:
Whenever my friends give me a hard time about eating stuff, I just turn it into a joke and completely avoid the act of explaining what I’m trying to get done. Like, if they make a comment about the healthiness of what I’m eating, I just say, “Well its good you’re not eating it then” and laugh. They then don’t continue badgering me about it . . . until the next meal at least haha. Don’t be oversensitive to this stuff. Just be nice.[/quote]

Good point. When I was back home, it must have been daily that one of my frat brothers would make a joke about my protein shakes. They would even joke that this was what I was eating for Thanksgiving. That is NOT toxic. That just friends being friends, especially when it comes to guys. What the fuck else do we do but rank on each other? If stuff like that is causing you to lose focus, you need to learn to focus with more intensity because anyone who stands out from the crowd is going to garner more attention. Someone with clear defined goals doesn’t exactly fall apart in situations like that.

Another thing that helps is finally making enough progress so that you LOOK the part. If you weigh 135lbs yet are carrying a gallon jug of water to work, expect for people to look at you crazy. They won’t do that if you look like you could toss them over a shoulder and throw them out of the way.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

I know AA said he brings his own damn food to meetings. That cracked me up.

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So do I. AA weighs over 270lbs. No one is going to say shit.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:

I know AA said he brings his own damn food to meetings. That cracked me up.

So do I. AA weighs over 270lbs. No one is going to say shit.[/quote]

heck no I wouldn’t say anything in person.

But do you remember the thread I am talking about?