Interesting genetic anthropology article in Scientific American about
lactose intolerance. About those 20 rep squats accompanied by lots of milk…I’ll just do the squats and you can keep the milk.
Check it out:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanId=sa003&articleId=048C5C9D-E7F2-99DF-3ED2616E392893DB
Does it really matter when we evolved the gene to digest milk into adulthood? If you can handle the stuff and it helps you grow, then add one to your bulking toolbox.
[quote]entheogens wrote:
Interesting genetic anthropology article in Scientific American about
lactose intolerance. About those 20 rep squats accompanied by lots of milk…I’ll just do the squats and you can keep the milk.
Check it out:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanId=sa003&articleId=048C5C9D-E7F2-99DF-3ED2616E392893DB[/quote]
I’m sorry, but what does that have to do with anything related to you or anyone else drinking milk today?
I’m all about the evolutionary study of man and it’s applications in health/fitness but I can drink a gallon of whole milk per day with absolutely NO problems whatsoever and I’m as European as they come (Swedish and English).
LMAO at the post title. “Our European Ancestors.” Do you go around refer to non-whites as “you people”?
I wonder how “our” ancestors would have responded to modern marvels such as chemothreapy and novacaine.
I wonder if a caveman could have been taught to drive a car? To speak English?
I wonder what role, if any, being raised on milk from an early age has to do with lactose tolerance?
But hey, if some ape-man eons ago couldn’t have used something from the modern world, neither should we!
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
LMAO at the post title. “Our European Ancestors.” Do you go around refer to non-whites as “you people”?[/quote]
I was going to shine a light on that too but it is getting to the point where it just seems there are too many socially clueless people running around. If I gave people in general more credit, I would think it was intentional. Luckily, I don’t give most people much credit at all.
[quote]derek wrote:
I’m all about the evolutionary study of man and it’s applications in health/fitness but I can drink a gallon of whole milk per day with absolutely NO problems whatsoever and I’m as European as they come (Swedish and English).[/quote]
Swedes, in addition to being the most metal people on Earth, are the most lactose-persistent population…lucky guy.
I grew up on a dairy farm. Both my parents are German. Since the neolithic era, and interrupted by a brief period of trans-atlantic immigration, I believe my family has survived by raising female bovines,squeezing the milk out of them, and, when a cow gets too old to produce milk, chopping her up and eating her. It’s a cruel lifestyle, but I love it.
The point about the title of this thread somehow being eurocentric is taken. My apologies.
That is very interesting in an “I don’t give a shit about cavemen” sort of way.
The Gieco caveman is probably throwin a fit right about now. I’m just going to drink some milk and laugh about it though.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I wonder how “our” ancestors would have responded to modern marvels such as chemothreapy and novacaine.
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Well, in general, “WE” dont respond to them well, but sometimes it’s worth the side effects, if it’s going to save a life or avoid excruciating pain.
What caveman??? If you are speaking about, say, Cro-Magnon (35,000 - 10,000 B.C), they actually had a larger brain size than us and there is no reason to believe they couldn’t have been taught to do those things.
According to the science,either you are born lactose persistent or you are not.
If your ancestry stems from Northern European ancestry your chances are much stronger that you can tolerate milk. If from Asia or most of Africa, you are less likely to tolerate milk. By the way it is my understanding that if you are Northern European you are less likely to tolerate gluten. Milk and cereals like wheat, etc are relatively latecomers to the human diet
Very nuanced. My point was not that nobody should take dairy products. My point is that the late introduction of dairy means that there will be a relatively sizeable population allergic/sensitive to it. Used to be, when some non-mainstream scientists and health care practitioners talked about lactose intolerance, mainstream doctors scoffed at them.
So you would have these people with cramps, bloating and gas, and stopped-up noses. who had no idea why they had this problem. After all, “MILK is good for you”. When I was in elementary school, we were forced to drink two cartons a milk per day in school.
I am still not convinced that in many parts of the country the factuality of “lactose intolerance” has been recognized, especially with the money poured into the “Got Milk” ads by the dairy industry.
Yeah, more power to you if you can tolerate milk. But if you can’t, let it go and dont be enticed by the “Got Milk” commercials or the “drink lots of milk and squat” crowd.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
Speaking of the Geico caveman, don’t you think they should have had at least 1 Neanderthal in there? Those guys are way too boney.[/quote]
Sorry, I haven’t seen that commercial.
However, SNL, a long time ago, used to have a hilarious skit about a “Caveman Lawyer”. See:
[quote]entheogens wrote:
MODOK wrote:
Speaking of the Geico caveman, don’t you think they should have had at least 1 Neanderthal in there? Those guys are way too boney.
Sorry, I haven’t seen that commercial.
However, SNL, a long time ago, used to have a hilarious skit about a “Caveman Lawyer”. See:
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those were some of the best SNL skits. i’m just a simple caveman lawyer, your world frightens and confuses me. lol
btw, you’re right that there are a lot of people out there that are more lactose intolerant than they believe.
The main reason people can’t tolerate milk is because most people only have pastuerized milk available to them which is boiled to death, literally.
If you can find raw milk, drink it, it is highly likely you can tolerate it.
I can’t tolerate regular store bought milk for shit. Runny noses, drainage, hocking up spit, etc.
"Did you know?
Lactose intolerant consumers can drink raw milk because lactase- producing bacteria are present."
"Why do you say that “Raw Milk is Alive”?
Natural organic raw milk has in it vitally important living things. These include the following: beneficial bacteria, enzymes (including lipase, protease. and other), lactase forming bacteria, and many enzyme based pathogen killing systems. The common practice of pasteurization inactivates or dramatically reduces the effects of these important active (living) elements. As a result, you may be lactose intolerant when drinking pasteurized milk, but not lactose intolerant when you drink raw milk. This is because lactase enzymes are being formed when you digest raw milk. That is why we say, “only living milk brings life.”
What happens to bacteria in pasteurized milk after pasteurization?
After pasteurization, bacteria found naturally in milk are killed. During the high temperature heating process, cell bodies of these bacteria are ruptured and their contents are spilled, releasing histamines. This causes many milk drinkers to suffer allergic reactions. Almost all of these same consumers can drink raw milk and not have allergies. The high levels of bacteria permitted in milk intended for pasteurization are still found in pasteurized milk; they are just dead and not removed by the process."
[quote]greekdawg wrote:
The main reason people can’t tolerate milk is because most people only have pastuerized milk available to them which is boiled to death, literally.
If you can find raw milk, drink it, it is highly likely you can tolerate it.
I can’t tolerate regular store bought milk for shit. Runny noses, drainage, hocking up spit, etc.
"Did you know?
Lactose intolerant consumers can drink raw milk because lactase- producing bacteria are present."
"Why do you say that “Raw Milk is Alive”?
Natural organic raw milk has in it vitally important living things. These include the following: beneficial bacteria, enzymes (including lipase, protease. and other), lactase forming bacteria, and many enzyme based pathogen killing systems. The common practice of pasteurization inactivates or dramatically reduces the effects of these important active (living) elements. As a result, you may be lactose intolerant when drinking pasteurized milk, but not lactose intolerant when you drink raw milk. This is because lactase enzymes are being formed when you digest raw milk. That is why we say, “only living milk brings life.”
What happens to bacteria in pasteurized milk after pasteurization?
After pasteurization, bacteria found naturally in milk are killed. During the high temperature heating process, cell bodies of these bacteria are ruptured and their contents are spilled, releasing histamines. This causes many milk drinkers to suffer allergic reactions. Almost all of these same consumers can drink raw milk and not have allergies. The high levels of bacteria permitted in milk intended for pasteurization are still found in pasteurized milk; they are just dead and not removed by the process."
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Unless you have a 100% clean cow, be wary of the “bad” stuff in raw milk. It is not like they thought pasteurization was something cool to do, it is done for a reason.
I for one do not get diarrhea even if I drink a gallon of whole milk a day. Yet my grandmother was lactose intolerant. Maybe it was the fact I was grown up on milk, unfortunately, I did not do squats.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
Unless you have a 100% clean cow, be wary of the “bad” stuff in raw milk. It is not like they thought pasteurization was something cool to do, it is done for a reason.[/quote]
Agreed. Pasteurization wasn’t just invented for shits and giggles. While I do hold the stance that people should be able to do what they want to their own bodies (like buy milk raw if they want to), I am also mindful of how uneducated and ignorant some people are on many subjects. Just like Spike and teenagers who overdose on it, stupidity is the reason it is hard to argue against some of these laws and restrictions.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
LMAO at the post title. “Our European Ancestors.” Do you go around refer to non-whites as “you people”?[/quote]
“Non-whites” is a political term, not a scientific one. Most “African-Americans”, for example, have significant European ancestry (somewhere around 20 percent, on average). Hispanics average higher. One can have mostly European ancestry (and excellent lactose tolerance) and still be tagged “non-white”, at least in the United States.
With that nod to factual accuracy done with, I return y’all to your debate.
Our European Ancestors & Milk is a fine title to this thread. Your not ‘bad’ or whatever, lol. Don’t apologize for a thing. Europeans/Whites are number one in my book. It would be nice to see them start breeding again, and maybe standing up for themselves.
Of course people like californialaw and prof x are very intimidating. I guess having the likes of them frighten you into changing your thoughts and apologizing for acknowledging your heritage is understandable. According to the media whites are weak and dumb and bad, so its probably better to run away yelling ‘I’m sorry’ over your shoulder.
this thread makes me want to go drink milk. bye.