OT, Anavar and Test Cycle (with a Question)

Pharma / TRT
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Hey guys,

My first post on this forum. Love the info I get from it, and its time for me to ask for some advice.

STATS:
21
91kg
13-15% BF
Been in a gym my whole life, been training seriously for 3-4 years. (6-7 days a week. even thru christmas, etc. training is a big passion.)
Diet in check, and training in check
GOALS: Lean and clean gains. (5-10kg)

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I have done a mild 4 week cycle of anavar only and 40mg per day. Worked nicely, list a decent amount of bf. (wanted to ease my way into anabolics. flame if u will. dont really care.)

I am not ready to do a Oral Turinabol, Anavar, and Test cycle.

Here it is:

DAY 1 - 25: 40mg PER DAY (OT)

DAY 26 - 50: 40mg PER DAY (ANAVAR)

PCT - DAY 57 - 84: 40mg PER DAY, reducing to 20mg PER DAY. (KESSAR/TAMOXIFEN CITRATE)

*BCAA’S
*L-GLUTAMINE
*ZMA
*MILK THISTLE

Kessar kept on-hand in case of gyno appearing.

DIET: looking at around 3500-5000cal per day. (loads of tuna and chicken.) i wanna try get around 300-400g of protein in per day)

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Now, my question comes. What testosterone shud i use with this cycle? I have been thinking about sustanon250, due to its long esters. but im not 100% sure on it. I need some opinions from people.

This will be my first injectable, and im looking to make some clean and lean gains.

OT gives a slight Test shutdown, anavar wont, due to the short cycle im using of it. Shud i use the sustanon, at 250mg per week? (one inject per week, to “supplement” the test that is lost from the OT?)

if not sustanon, then wat test shud i use? at the moment, everything is on paper.

All comments and advice is much appreciated.

Thanks once again.

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[quote]AAAKIE wrote:

OT gives a slight Test shutdown, anavar wont, due to the short cycle im using of it. Shud i use the sustanon, at 250mg per week? (one inject per week, to “supplement” the test that is lost from the OT?)

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This is wrong. Especially the “anavar wont” part.

And you don’t understand the concept of HPTA shutdown. You don’t ‘lose’ test from OT. Your body stops producing testosterone in the presence of high androgen levels. If you take enough OT, anavar, or test for long enough either one of the three will shut down your HPTA. So you can’t make blanket statements about how certain steroids affect the function of the HPTA.

Explain why you are attracted to sustanon becuase of the long esters? It also has short esters in it. What are your thoughts on those? Do you really want to be injecting 3-4 times a week in your first injectible cycle?

And please FFS type in english and proof read what you write before you post. It was a chore to read what little part of it I managed to.

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Hi bone. Sorry, I was in a rush when i typed it out. Thanks for your reply though.

Ok, i was incorrect in saying that Anavar wont shut down the HPTA. I should have said “shouldn’t”. From research and various articles, 40mg of Anavar a day has not been shown to decrease natural test levels. (I will be using it for roughly 3 weeks. OT aswell, for 3 weeks.)

However, OT HAS been seen to decrease natural testosterone levels. (please correct me if I am wrong.) Again, this is from articles, and research.

I am attracted to Sustanon250 due to its short and long esters. So variety is there. Unless I use Testoviron?
I want to inject once a week, and originally wanted to use Sustanon250, and inject 250mg every Sunday. (but you guys would have probably grilled me if I said that.)

This is the reason why I ask which test is the best for my goals and my cycle.

Should I then do 250mg of a test per week?

P.S: I am 1.93cm tall. (forgot to mention it earlier.)

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[quote]AAAKIE wrote:
Hi bone. Sorry, I was in a rush when i typed it out. Thanks for your reply though.

Ok, i was incorrect in saying that Anavar wont shut down the HPTA. I should have said “shouldn’t”. From research and various articles, 40mg of Anavar a day has not been shown to decrease natural test levels. (I will be using it for roughly 3 weeks. OT aswell, for 3 weeks.)

However, OT HAS been seen to decrease natural testosterone levels. (please correct me if I am wrong.) Again, this is from articles, and research.

I am attracted to Sustanon250 due to its short and long esters. So variety is there. Unless I use Testoviron?
I want to inject once a week, and originally wanted to use Sustanon250, and inject 250mg every Sunday. (but you guys would have probably grilled me if I said that.)

This is the reason why I ask which test is the best for my goals and my cycle.

Should I then do 250mg of a test per week?

P.S: I am 1.93cm tall. (forgot to mention it earlier.)[/quote]

Do a search on the proper way to use sustanon.

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its mixed. some say 250mg 1 shoy per week. some say no.

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I could also do Test cyp? due to its active life of 13-15 days. (and its also recommended as a first-timer test)

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[quote]AAAKIE wrote:
I could also do Test cyp? due to its active life of 13-15 days. (and its also recommended as a first-timer test)[/quote]

Where you getting your information from?

The opinion about sustanon on this site is not mixed. It has a propionate ester in it. It is agreed that prop is best injected EOD.

That is a generous half life for cyp. Will you die if you shoot cyp once a week? Of course not. Will the blood levels remain much more stable if you inject in twice a week. Absolutely.

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I agree. you will be wasting time using 250mg of test a week. 250mg twice a week is a cycle. If you would have read the stickies, you would have found answers to most of your questions.

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[quote]AAAKIE wrote:
P.S: I am 1.93cm tall. (forgot to mention it earlier.)[/quote]

So you’re 200lbs (91kg) at a height of about 6’3" (1.93m)?

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Yes.

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Hey guys im new to the site, i joined simply for some advice. I am thinking of starting a cycle of anavar however i know very little about the drug, or at least what i do know or hear is often contradicted in forums ect. where is a reliable source that i can search and spend some time reading up on?

i basically want to know the cons , like if shut down occurs during the cycle,once i have stopped the cycle how long will it take to get back to normal(im 25 year old male). what sorted of doesages are most effective, cycle duration, and also what type of training will get best results, e.g hypertrophy, strength, power, or would you complete phases on each diff set reps schemes tut ect all while on one cycle.

I am a tested athlete so interested in how long it takes to get out of the system. Thanks for any help, i relise some of my question or perhaps all may seem obvious and ddumb questions to ask but i simply dont know.

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[quote]2meki wrote:
Hey guys im new to the site, i joined simply for some advice. I am thinking of starting a cycle of anavar however i know very little about the drug, or at least what i do know or hear is often contradicted in forums ect. where is a reliable source that i can search and spend some time reading up on?

i basically want to know the cons , like if shut down occurs during the cycle,once i have stopped the cycle how long will it take to get back to normal(im 25 year old male). what sorted of doesages are most effective, cycle duration, and also what type of training will get best results, e.g hypertrophy, strength, power, or would you complete phases on each diff set reps schemes tut ect all while on one cycle.

I am a tested athlete so interested in how long it takes to get out of the system. Thanks for any help, i relise some of my question or perhaps all may seem obvious and ddumb questions to ask but i simply dont know. [/quote]

Read all the stickies at the top of the forum. Don’t highjack someone else’s thread. I half think you are a troll trying to provoke a flaming on this thread by asking this.

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oh my bad im still trying to figure out the site, i will try set up my own thread , and see if i can locate the stickies. cheers.