Just looking to hear opinions on this peptide, seems like a good alternative to hgh, pricewise. if you have used it please share your opinions on it! Thanks
It’s definitely more powerful than igf DES but also more dangerous; the longer ester means that more glucose will be used and so you have a greater chanceof danger. Just a precaution, but don’t go to sleep until 24 hours after you inject it, have food handy, and enjoy the results mate.
You get stronger almost immediately, and then lose just a bit of what you gained after 3-4 days… but the real growth will come about 6 months after you use it, bc the muscle cells need time to mature.
i have read a good dosing protocal is 40mcg to 120mcg a day, split into two doses, first waking up and second at night or post workout. The main reason I want to give it a shot is to help bring up lagging bodyparts
How long is it safe to be on? I read 50 days on and a couple weeks off.
Safety? Well that’s an indefinite judgment call. It’s gonna raise your risk of cancer, but then again, plenty of pros take extreme doses of the stuff for so damn long that they look pregnant. And they aren’t dying from cancer from what news I’ve seen so I’d imagine the risk, especially for people that don’t abuse the drug, to be quite small. I personally just inject the whole bottle at once and wait a month or so before doing that again. The igf will die after you reconstitute it,or add water, within 3-4 days even if it’s refrigerated.
One advantage of the high dose, occasional use kind of protocol is that you’ll develop less tolerance for the drug, which would make some sense, bc you’d think that your body would need igf to heal itself or whatever else it does.
If you want to bring up those bodyparts, inject soon after you work whatever muscles you’re trying to bring up, you may wanna hit em again the next day, even several light sets are fine, just getting a pump, getting the blood into whatever you’re wanting to improve is the important thing.
Here’s a post I did on the side effects noticed
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/hub/lumbernac#myForums/thread/6015076/
inject the whole bottle at once? are you serious? what good is that, its out of your system in 6 hours or so is what ive read
the link you provided is a review you gave on hgh, not igf lr3, im confused
Igf lr3 lasts 30 hours, igf des is the one that lasts 6 hours but it’s weaker. and it’s your choice either way, the bottle will die after 3 days in the fridge anyway, so you’re going to have to do something. Some guys pull out the rubber that you push the needle through, and put some of the powder into similar bottles, and then freeze that. If it isn’t reconstituted yet, the freezing will preserve it.
I just do the whole bottle, less complicated that way and it can be dangerous, bc you’ll have to keep eating, a lot, and not go to bed.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
the link you provided is a review you gave on hgh, not igf lr3, im confused[/quote]
Yeah but I do both, and the side effects are going to be the same bc they’re similar drugs, except that hgh isnt going to be as bad with risk of hypoglycemia
[quote]lumbernac wrote:
Igf lr3 lasts 30 hours, igf des is the one that lasts 6 hours but it’s weaker. and it’s your choice either way, the bottle will die after 3 days in the fridge anyway, so you’re going to have to do something. Some guys pull out the rubber that you push the needle through, and put some of the powder into similar bottles, and then freeze that. If it isn’t reconstituted yet, the freezing will preserve it.
I just do the whole bottle, less complicated that way and it can be dangerous, bc you’ll have to keep eating, a lot, and not go to bed.[/quote]
if you mix with bac water, then yeah, it will go bad pretty quickly, you want to use acetic acid to preserve it longer, i’ve never heard of anyone just injecting the whole bottle at once, that is a bad idea.
Ok, try it with acetic acid then, but most people either put two or three parts water to every part aa, and even then, you’ll still get some irritation and soreness in the muscle bc of the acid, and in my experience, igf wont have any effect after 4 days of being reconstituted, no matter what you do.
As far as the risk goes, I’ve used it before, gotten hypo once, know the feeling, and know I have to keep eating. If I do that I’ll be fine. But sure, try out a moderate dosing scheme, I mean it’s a new drug for you. You don’t need to jump in the lake the first day you’ve ever swam, and the hypoglycemia may get you if you aren’t ready for it.
is this something im going to need a glucose meter to take my blood sugar with like slin or is it not that serious
straight from a well known peptide site:
Lyophilized IGF-1 LR3 is stable at room temperature for 90 days,however it should be stored in a freezer below -8C for any extended period of time. After reconstituting IGF-1 LR3 should be refrigerated at temperatures not to exceed 36 F.
heres a post from another board:
AA: Short for Acetic Acid, a commonly-used solvent for diluting the IGF-1 powder. This is said to keep the fragile IGF-1 molecule more stable than other solvents. This point is heavily debated. AA is an acid and it tends to kill whichever tissue you inject it into. It is best to dilute the IGF-1 with as little AA as can be done, and then to dilute this solution again when injecting so as to damage the target tissue as little as possible.
BW: Bacteriostatic water. This is simply purified water mixed with 0.9% Berylic Alcohol. Microorganisms cannot survive in this water. It is a very common solvent for injections and should be easily obtainable even from your local drugstore. BW is not an ideal solvent for long-term IGF-1 solution and storage as it tends to degrade much more quickly in BW than in AA. Again there is much debate as to how quickly IGF-1 does degrade in BW.
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
is this something im going to need a glucose meter to take my blood sugar with like slin or is it not that serious[/quote]
If you use the dosages that you suggested, I wouldn’t think so. Just eat throughout the day, if and when you want to up the dosage, it would come in handy.
so back to your dosage… you literally take 1mg of igflr3 all at once??? and if so, why
I started out with the acetic acid just like you did, thinking the exact same thing about how it would preserve the igf, which was bs. I put 100 units of AA into the bottle and even strsight up AA won’t prserve the igf for more than 4 days. I also dont like having to inject myself multiple times a day to get a worthwhile dose, which AA forces you to do, bc you’re going to have to dilute it with water, otherwise, the AA will burn a hole in your muscle. Even with adding 2-3 parts of bac water for every part AA+igf, you’ll still get soreness. So, just using bac water seems the best way to reconstitute the powder.
Then the choice becomes only how much to inject. I do it all at once bc
- The buildup of tolerance will be less with fewer injections. Less downgrade of receptors.
- I dont like wasting $$$ , in the end, it’s kind of funny that we’ll spend thousands of dollars a year on getting bigger, why not have your money spent go farther? You waste $$$ bc the bottle will die after 3-4 days.
So, I take the whole 1 mg dosage. The only danger from that kind of dose is hypoglycemia. Now that I think about it, igf lr3 may be a bad idea for a newb, esp if you’re gonna use the whole bottle at once. What about starting of with 150 mcg’s a day? That will get your feet wet, just like beginner cycles work for roid newbs. But, you dont need to stay at that dose by any means. And there’s no right or wrong #, whatever you think that you can handle is fine.
Is the source you’re using about the life of the igf the actual peptide lab , I.e the supplier? Beleiving absolutely everything that the supplier tells you is not always reccomended, just like the guy that sold you that used car.
I keep getting from you that the igf will last quite a while, I suggest trying it out for yourself, bc seeing is believing. I can only explain that point so many ways until I start repeating myself. The last piece of advice would be to search around to find a source that a lot of people recommend.
man i just think thats crazy lol, ive read about it in quite a few forums and no one injects the whole 1mg at once. I would think that would be somewhat similar to injecting 10ml of testosterone all at once and calling it a cycle. Not trying to knock you or way of doing things, just seems crazy to me. I wouldn’t even want to start at 150 mcg a day, i would probably start around 60mcg.
The best way that I have read is to reconstitute it with as little AA as possible, it does eat the muscle. To reduce or eliminate the burning, after you have drawn out your desired dose, you then draw out some bac water from a seperate vial to dilute it. The amount of bac water used I imagine would depend on how much it burns, if it still burns, add more bac water.
I would also think that if you are injecting 1mg of true igflr3 that is accurately dosed all at once it would definitely cause some short term side effects like hypoglycemia. If not, i would seriously question your source.
But who knows, I’ve never tried the stuff, you have , so as of right now i’m just going off of what i have read, which may or may not be true, i think it does make sense though.
I need about 2500 to 3500 extra calories (at least 50% of calories from carbohydrates) during the 24hours after lr3 injection, I can’t stop eating basically, otherwise I’ll kill myself. I realize it sounds crazy lol
I like you you folks info.
I just have one question; Does the igf-1 lr3 powder expire if left without any BW or AA added?
[quote]cjmcglassic wrote:
I like you you folks info.
I just have one question; Does the igf-1 lr3 powder expire if left without any BW or AA added?[/quote]
It will expire quicker when its been reconstituted i believe. I would just keep everything in the fridge reconstituted or not.