Openly Gay T-members

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
swivel wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
hey i have a question for anyone on here that is gay. i hope you dont take this the wrong way.
when does a gay guy lose his virginity, when he gives it or takes it, or some kinda combo.

im serious i’ve asked all my gay friends (mostly lesbians) and they’ve all made fun of me.

well, if you’re catholic, in the ass doesn’t really count either way.

That’s right.

And it’s a problem. Religious straight couples who decide on abstinence are still likely to have anal, sometimes unprotected. A big spread of STDs.[/quote]

There’s a misconception there. If you don’t already have an STD, you can’t “make” one and spread it no matter what kind of sex you have. You have to aquire an STD to spread it.

[quote]JMB wrote:
The T-Nation forums often seem pretty homophobic, and I’ve never encountered a post from an openly gay member. Considering that gay people are known for taking care of their bodies - working out, eating right, etc., surely there are a few out there. I just wonder about this every time I hear someone being called a “homo” as a flame.

And no, I’m not gay, in case you were wondering.

JMB[/quote]

There was a thread about 2 years a go where an openly gay T-member was making a complaint about all the ‘homo’ comments being made. He even made comments that most gays work out and have bigger muscles and could probably kick everyone ass here on the forum.

Needless to say the comments from the other T-members were not kind.. they were funny as hell…but not kind.

[quote]JMB wrote:
The T-Nation forums often seem pretty homophobic, and I’ve never encountered a post from an openly gay member. Considering that gay people are known for taking care of their bodies - working out, eating right, etc., surely there are a few out there. I just wonder about this every time I hear someone being called a “homo” as a flame.

And no, I’m not gay, in case you were wondering.

JMB[/quote]

They all look like clones of a gay army or something.Haha!

[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
swivel wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
hey i have a question for anyone on here that is gay. i hope you dont take this the wrong way.
when does a gay guy lose his virginity, when he gives it or takes it, or some kinda combo.

im serious i’ve asked all my gay friends (mostly lesbians) and they’ve all made fun of me.

well, if you’re catholic, in the ass doesn’t really count either way.

That’s right.

And it’s a problem. Religious straight couples who decide on abstinence are still likely to have anal, sometimes unprotected. A big spread of STDs.

There’s a misconception there. If you don’t already have an STD, you can’t “make” one and spread it no matter what kind of sex you have. You have to aquire an STD to spread it.[/quote]

I disagree. There are kits where you can make your own STD at home (at least in the early 90s they were on the market). I have one and it’s really cool. I’ve made some good ones over the years. For example, I made one that makes your undercarriage break out in sores intermittently. Another one I made puts warts on your junk. I really like that one.

DB

this being gay thing is not getting me what i wanted. i was expecting every female member on the site to pm me, console in me, and then offer to come over and snuggle. but so far, just a few of you guys … now i REALLY know what the f*ck is going on around here. thus, i’m going back in the closet. if anything changes, i’ll let you know.

Dan

i wonder if they bought it?

[quote]Dan Fouts wrote:
this being gay thing is not getting me what i wanted. i was expecting every female member on the site to pm me, console in me, and then offer to come over and snuggle. but so far, just a few of you guys … now i REALLY know what the f*ck is going on around here. thus, i’m going back in the closet. if anything changes, i’ll let you know.

Dan

i wonder if they bought it?[/quote]

I think the closet here is like the one in “A Bronx Tale”

DB

make a gay friend homosexual friend for your own benefit… She/He will let you know which girls will fuck the shit out of you.

giggity giggity.

[quote]Vegita wrote:
WMD wrote:
A bunch of gay crap. Bla bla bla bla…
WMD

WMD, I don’t have anger towards anyone. I am disapointed in my cousin and I stated that the ultimate reponsibility was his. He was weak and could not handle the pressures of the lifestyle he chose. That doesn’t mean that I think the lifestyle is “good” per say, but i’m not one to tell people how to live thier lives. Also in case you have been sleeping for the past 3 years, I am a sarcastic bastard. Almost everything I say has a sarcastic overtone. Anyways, I don’t think riding a motorcycle without a helmet is a good idea, nor do I think a gay lifestyle, at least in the form my cousin experienced it, is a good idea. Do I discriminate or hate people who don’t wear a helmet when they ride? Of course not, I think you see where i’m going with this.

And anyways, I already told you that I love lesbians. In fact if gays are one step below normal humans, lesbians are ceretainly one step above normal humans. Well at least if they are the pretty lesbians, with big boobs and also the ones that want to let me watch or even join them in sexual excapades. And just so you all know, gays are certainly one step lower than humans, I was at DC and had the displeasure of seeing dan regularly so I know pretty well just how bad these “gays” are.

V[/quote]

Okeedokee. I fear certain types of sarcasm don’t translate too well on the Internet.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Here’s a situation I would like to hear some opinions on. It has developed over the past several months, but in recent weeks has escalated to the point of being more than just irritating.

An old friend of mine is gay. He had been a friend of my dads and has been around just about my whole life. While my dad was still alive, the guy was just like anybody else. He would hang out and have a couple beers, participate in family functions, all of the usual stuff that most freinds of my family participated in. The whole time, nobody ever thoght twice about the fact that he was gay. It was given about as much consideration as the sexuality of someone who isn’t. So my dad passes away about 13 years ago. Shortly after, the “friend” becomes about as forward as anybody could possibly be, telling me explicitly what he wants and even offering money for it. I asked him why he was suddenly so interested, and he explains that him and my father had an agreement. He can hang around, be part of the family, but no hitting on me or my brothers. He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him. I told the “friend” that I’m straight, don’t have any interest in experimenting, and no thanks.
Time passes, and through out the past few years I’ve had a decent amount of interraction with the guy. He’s getting prety old, and has hired me to cut his grass and keep up his house a bit. The problem is that with every interaction with the guy he tries some way to coerce me into some gay sex with him. He’s offered money, drugs, and even offered to rent a whore so he could jump in(on me). In our last conversation he tried to explain that me having sex with him wouldn’t be gay, because I would be doing the same thing with him as I would be doing with my girlfriend. At this point, I lost it. I told him to either keep his libido in check, of just fuck off.

For the past couple of weeks the guy has been calling me very persistently, sometimes twice a day. I whon’t call back, because I’ve allready told the guy to fuck off. In 13 years this guy has not gotten the picture. My girlfriend is getting irritated with his incessant calling, and I’m getting pissed off because the old bastard whon’t leave me alone. I’m going to be talking to him later to tell him to quit bothering me(for the second time), but I seiously doubt that he will get the message.

So- Gay or straight, what do you make of that situation?
I’ve had a lot of interraction with homosexuals in the past, and tollerance for another sexuality doesn’t seem to be an issue, but this guy takes the fucking cake.
[/quote]

You may have to threaten legal action. Gay or straight, some guys just don’t get that no means no. Just ask any woman over the age of about five if that is true. I have been pursued by men before, no matter how many times I said not interested, I’m gay, they would persist until I threatened to set the law on them. I think telling them I’m gay just added fuel to the fire. My two cents.

[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
mclemorejohn wrote:
Please don’t start with the “hey your homophobic” bullshit. I personally don’t care if people are gay. It seems like the gay community always tries to push the joys of gayness down our throats (ha,ha,ha). Correct me if I’m wrong, but everytime someone stands up and says that they are against gayness, the whole homophobic thing comes up.

i agree. laters pk[/quote]

You get called homophobic because you are “against gayness”, as though who anyone else consensually sleeps with is any of your bloody business. You get called homophobic because you stereotype and generalize and call homnosexuality a lifestyle, rather than sexual orientation. There is a difference. You get called homophobic because of your obsessive worry about where other men are putting their peepees. In other words you are homophobic because of the attitude you espouse. If you don’t like being called homophobic, try not generalizing about gay people and being aginast something you know nothing about.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Here’s a situation I would like to hear some opinions on. It has developed over the past several months, but in recent weeks has escalated to the point of being more than just irritating.

An old friend of mine is gay. He had been a friend of my dads and has been around just about my whole life. While my dad was still alive, the guy was just like anybody else. He would hang out and have a couple beers, participate in family functions, all of the usual stuff that most freinds of my family participated in. The whole time, nobody ever thoght twice about the fact that he was gay. It was given about as much consideration as the sexuality of someone who isn’t. So my dad passes away about 13 years ago. Shortly after, the “friend” becomes about as forward as anybody could possibly be, telling me explicitly what he wants and even offering money for it. I asked him why he was suddenly so interested, and he explains that him and my father had an agreement. He can hang around, be part of the family, but no hitting on me or my brothers. He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him. I told the “friend” that I’m straight, don’t have any interest in experimenting, and no thanks.
Time passes, and through out the past few years I’ve had a decent amount of interraction with the guy. He’s getting prety old, and has hired me to cut his grass and keep up his house a bit. The problem is that with every interaction with the guy he tries some way to coerce me into some gay sex with him. He’s offered money, drugs, and even offered to rent a whore so he could jump in(on me). In our last conversation he tried to explain that me having sex with him wouldn’t be gay, because I would be doing the same thing with him as I would be doing with my girlfriend. At this point, I lost it. I told him to either keep his libido in check, of just fuck off.

For the past couple of weeks the guy has been calling me very persistently, sometimes twice a day. I whon’t call back, because I’ve allready told the guy to fuck off. In 13 years this guy has not gotten the picture. My girlfriend is getting irritated with his incessant calling, and I’m getting pissed off because the old bastard whon’t leave me alone. I’m going to be talking to him later to tell him to quit bothering me(for the second time), but I seiously doubt that he will get the message.

So- Gay or straight, what do you make of that situation?
I’ve had a lot of interraction with homosexuals in the past, and tollerance for another sexuality doesn’t seem to be an issue, but this guy takes the fucking cake.[/quote]

This guy is a POS. “He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him.” No. F*cking. Way.

You need to RUIN this guy. Either get real serious and take legal action. Or turn it around. Get someone to keep calling and harassing him. Give his phone number to 50 friends, and have them call him at least once a day. Perhaps get a radio station involved … that could be fun … some morning dj show … “so bob, we hear you’re quite the ‘anal’ guy.”

etc. … so color me twisted

Dan

[quote]Dan Fouts wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
Here’s a situation I would like to hear some opinions on. It has developed over the past several months, but in recent weeks has escalated to the point of being more than just irritating.

An old friend of mine is gay. He had been a friend of my dads and has been around just about my whole life. While my dad was still alive, the guy was just like anybody else. He would hang out and have a couple beers, participate in family functions, all of the usual stuff that most freinds of my family participated in. The whole time, nobody ever thoght twice about the fact that he was gay. It was given about as much consideration as the sexuality of someone who isn’t. So my dad passes away about 13 years ago. Shortly after, the “friend” becomes about as forward as anybody could possibly be, telling me explicitly what he wants and even offering money for it. I asked him why he was suddenly so interested, and he explains that him and my father had an agreement. He can hang around, be part of the family, but no hitting on me or my brothers. He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him. I told the “friend” that I’m straight, don’t have any interest in experimenting, and no thanks.
Time passes, and through out the past few years I’ve had a decent amount of interraction with the guy. He’s getting prety old, and has hired me to cut his grass and keep up his house a bit. The problem is that with every interaction with the guy he tries some way to coerce me into some gay sex with him. He’s offered money, drugs, and even offered to rent a whore so he could jump in(on me). In our last conversation he tried to explain that me having sex with him wouldn’t be gay, because I would be doing the same thing with him as I would be doing with my girlfriend. At this point, I lost it. I told him to either keep his libido in check, of just fuck off.

For the past couple of weeks the guy has been calling me very persistently, sometimes twice a day. I whon’t call back, because I’ve allready told the guy to fuck off. In 13 years this guy has not gotten the picture. My girlfriend is getting irritated with his incessant calling, and I’m getting pissed off because the old bastard whon’t leave me alone. I’m going to be talking to him later to tell him to quit bothering me(for the second time), but I seiously doubt that he will get the message.

So- Gay or straight, what do you make of that situation?
I’ve had a lot of interraction with homosexuals in the past, and tollerance for another sexuality doesn’t seem to be an issue, but this guy takes the fucking cake.

This guy is a POS. “He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him.” No. F*cking. Way.

You need to RUIN this guy. Either get real serious and take legal action. Or turn it around. Get someone to keep calling and harassing him. Give his phone number to 50 friends, and have them call him at least once a day. Perhaps get a radio station involved … that could be fun … some morning dj show … “so bob, we hear you’re quite the ‘anal’ guy.”

etc. … so color me twisted

Dan[/quote]

      This piece of crap is not your friend. He is a parasite, disrespecting your father and your family. Good advice with legal intervention, get this crap completely out of your life. How many other people has this piece of crap done this to ? 

[quote]Dan Fouts wrote:

i wonder if they bought it?[/quote]

Nope!!!

[quote]Vegita wrote:
ipjunkie wrote:
I think we need to merge this thread with the extra douchebaggery of these “guys”

I have actually spent a good half hour staring at that pick going back and forth trying to figure out which one of them is the worst. It’s fucking hard to do, just when you start to settle on the biggest ass bag, that little fag blowing the smoke catches your eye and you go irate flipping over chars and punching holes in the walls.

But then when you actually pick him as the worst, the kid who has the big nose reminds me that I want all thier noses to look like that and they should all be punched so thier noses look flat like that. It’s obvious that that is what happened.

Dan, is this what you were talking about when you said you liked gay acting straight guys?

V[/quote]

The one in the bottom right of the pic is doing his best to strike a pose. I’d take him out first then work my way from right to left. To kill or just maim, now that is the question…

I have a question for the straight male T-members. I have always had straight male acquaintances but, never had a close straight buddy or friend. Because, I never knew where to “draw the line” in our friendship and not wanting to make an uncomfortable situation.

How do straight guys bond with out becoming a gay thing? Where does one “draw the line” in a male friendship?

[quote]randycamtn wrote:
I have a question for the straight male T-members. I have always had straight male acquaintances but, never had a close straight buddy or friend. Because, I never knew where to “draw the line” in our friendship and not wanting to make an uncomfortable situation.

How do straight guys bond with out becoming a gay thing? Where does one “draw the line” in a male friendship?
[/quote]

Is this a real question? I have one friend who is pretty much like my brother. In fact, if he called right now and said he needed my help, I would be on a plane by this afternoon one way or the other. I am confident he would do the same because he has in the past. I pretty much know how he would respond to a situation even if he isn’t there because we have known each other for years. I have no desire to screw the man. It is called RESPECT. He has proven himself to be a true friend, not one of those who leaves when the things aren’t going well.

I really don’t understand the mentality that would have a hard time understanding this. Being straight means you don’t want to screw men. Therefore, you can be friends with someone without that aspect. This is really hard for you to get? You are one strange person. Please get help.

[quote]randycamtn wrote:
I have a question for the straight male T-members. I have always had straight male acquaintances but, never had a close straight buddy or friend. Because, I never knew where to “draw the line” in our friendship and not wanting to make an uncomfortable situation.

How do straight guys bond with out becoming a gay thing? Where does one “draw the line” in a male friendship?
[/quote]

If one of my budiies gets wood over me, and somehow communicates it, He’s getting punched in the nose. Hugging and all that other shit is fine, in the “brothers don’t shake hands, brothers gotta hug” kind of way. My cousin is gay and talks to me in a completely normal kind of way, he understands that I don’t want to hear about anyone he’s fucked in the ass, so he’s never talked about it unless I asked him about it, which I did once when I first found out.

Other than that my relationship with him is the same as the rest of my family, We tell dirty jokes, punch eachother in the arm, argue over politics and life, etc… The biggest mistake gay people make in my opinion… Ok not all gay people make this obviously, just many do.

Is when they center thier entire fucking life around being Gay, Gay can’t just be something they do in the bedroom, they feel the need to wear it on thier sleeves and openly pronounce it. This also doesn’t apply to message boards, or any internet related chat shit, it’s just the real life scenarios where I think they “advertise” it too much.

More specific to your point however, you personally sound like you may have desire towards these friends you speak of. “crossing” the line would never enter into a straight mans mind, but since it enters yours, then the situation is different. It has to be dealt with in a different way, like pretend it’s a buddys girlfriend (or boyfriend).

You may have wanted to humpo thier brains out had the situation been different, but since they are in a commited relationship with one of your best friends, they are off limits for you and any thoughts of boning them must be supressed. After a few times of doing this, you will be able to have fun and let your guard down without worrying about crossing any lines.

V

[quote]randycamtn wrote:
I have a question for the straight male T-members. I have always had straight male acquaintances but, never had a close straight buddy or friend. Because, I never knew where to “draw the line” in our friendship and not wanting to make an uncomfortable situation.

How do straight guys bond with out becoming a gay thing? Where does one “draw the line” in a male friendship?
[/quote]

Woah. Good question. Almost sounds like you don’t trust yourself to jump their shit. From afar I don’t see it much differently really than a straight guy being friends with a girl. Different people have different boundaries, but you should be the guy you are. Be yourself, and if people don’t like it, then you don’t want to be friends with them anyway. If it turns out that nobody wants to be your friend (as is the case with me) then you have social disfunction issues. Just be confident with your gaydom without being overbearing.

My $1.05,
Dan

[quote]randycamtn wrote:
I have a question for the straight male T-members. I have always had straight male acquaintances but, never had a close straight buddy or friend. Because, I never knew where to “draw the line” in our friendship and not wanting to make an uncomfortable situation.

How do straight guys bond with out becoming a gay thing? Where does one “draw the line” in a male friendship?
[/quote]

Same place as you do with straight friends.

Sexuality has nothing to do with it. You know how to piss your buddies off and you know where the draw the line.